Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

... or maybe somthing related to internationalization.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I just sent an email to an UPV teacher who is already interested in Maemo development, I hope he will be able to tell me if there are some UI experts here who would like to collaborate with Maemo community. I'll tell you the response as soon as he replies me.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I sure hope we end up with good representation! If I can do anything to help out (like blog on the subject, which I'm considering, or assistance with organization, etc) then let me know!

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Hi,

I have been working with Igalia on Maemo for quite some time. I am currently on a leave of absence while I take part in the MSc in Human-Centred Interactive Technologies at the University of York, UK:

http://www.cs.york.ac.uk/postgraduat...nCentredIT.htm

As I have experience in Maemo and now I'm receiving formation related to UX and Interaction Design, I think that I could contribute some interesting ideas. Additionally, some of the topics discussed there could probably fit well in my Msc. Project and in my future work.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Yes, please send out mails. I only looked into this thread after Andrea told me about it, so there are surely some interested developers that just don't know about this.

You should be able to get a list of e-mail addresses for Extras/Extras-Testing from these files (maintainers and packages):

http://repository.maemo.org/extras/d...source/Sources
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-t...source/Sources
http://repository.maemo.org/extras/d...armel/Packages
http://repository.maemo.org/extras-t...armel/Packages

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Probably should limit the search for user/ category?

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Opengeek, good ideas. It's a possibility, yes: "Get started with Maemo 5"

I also was thinking about inviting GNOME Hispano, KDE Hispano and Softcatalà. Whoever is active in these community is probably not far from having interest in Maemo 5.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I can also use the same list of emails I got some days ago from Niels for the DDP invitation. I bet most active developers are covered there.

I really don't have much time these days for datamining. Since the emails are in a maemo.org database it would be nice that the Maemo (council?) would be able to do such kind of things. Then again is precisely on holidays this month...

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

THE EVENT IS CONFIRMED.

I'll start a wiki page and start a new thread later today.

The UX meets Code hackfest will happen no matter what. Keep your submissions coming!

Parallel local activities are welcome! Just bring a convincing proposal and a convincing promoter. Avui millor que demà / Hoy mejor que mañana.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Any experienced local (unlike me) that wants to make a "Get started with Maemo 5"?

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I waited because I am not sure whether I qualify: only entry I have in Extras for OS2008 is a repackaging for Maemo of a cmdline app. My friend Matteo is also a beginner.

Would you recommend that we attend? If you're shooting higher, just say so, no hard feelings :)

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

In case of doubt apply. Maybe at the end it has to do with travel expenses as well: you need to be a genius to be invited from Melbourne but if you are based in Sitges then it's a different matter.

Apply and we'll see.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Do you guys think Graphic Designers may be interested in this hackfest as well ?

They may not be UX experts, but definitely can help creting a better loking UI ?
Not sure if a "generic" graphic designer would help or if there are Graphic designers with specific UI experience.

Aniello

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

AFAIK, we don't have this kind of access, but if you need help with something, you know where to find the council ;).

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Good plan, I like it. Here is the required info:

my profile

openvpn repackage(*)

(*) page hasn't changed since the older 2.0 release, not mine and quite different, still in the repo.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Anidel,
If a good design is described, the graphic designer can work later on the wireframes to improve the look and feel. I think the focus should be more on who can get the work done fast in 3 days (coders with UI experience + UI Designers ) UX is being used wrongly all over the web, but anyhow :)

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Cool, great :)

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

So ... I try me too.

This is

my profile ( I know ... I'm a terrible Newbie ).

And sorry but I have not yet done any project. But ... in the future ... i will try.

Thank's

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

The UX Meets Code discussion keeps being done here.

For the rest of parallel activities check

http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo-Barcelona_Long_Weekend
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=364433

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I'd be glad to... just need the access...

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Hello everybody (my first post here!).

I've replied Quim in the developers list, but I'll copy and paste my reply here, since it seems is much more active place:

Now that the event is official, I will start spreading the word wherever I can.

Cheers.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Very interested!!!

I have been working on the Interaction Design of some applications at OpenBossa Labs/INdT. Although I haven't been active on the discussions, I think this would be a great start to exchange some UX and Design experience we have built in our interdisciplinary team.

http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=25807

Projects I have worked on:
Canola 1 and 2,
Carman,
Some of the UI documentation for Smart Home,
And currently involved in some good stuff ( http://vimeo.com/7380069 )

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

After the introductions here, don't forget to add your info to this table: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo-Barcelon...kend#Attendees

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Er.... I guess we "locals" have to put "Requested" in the Attendance column too. At least my request for invitation was not confirmed yet (even if there's no travel costs involved).

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

The list of attendees is for the whole Long Weekend and javispedro I guess you can consider yourself "Confirmed". I will start confirming the UX meets Code invited participants in a list apart.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I am Aleix Pol, I'm studying here in the FIB too and I'm a KDE developer (KAlgebra and KDevelop mainly).

I haven't done anything yet but I think it would be interesting so that's why I'd like to come.

I'm also a member of KDE Spain so if you would like to collaborate in some way that would be possible too. (we are quite some members from around that would be really nice).

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

As it happens, I am online :)

I'm interested in developing Shopper more and understanding how the creative guys think about UI and UX.

Shopper includes some novel things like gestures (ie scribble to erase) and of course it is where my fingerscrolling code first came from. It will be in extras-testing for the N900 soon.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo-Barcelon...#UX_meets_Code

Now you can see how the 3 days will be more or less structured.

We look now for 9 projects that will get their 2h of fame ;) and group collaboration.

3 needing work in concepting
3 needing work in usability
3 needing work in graphics

Your proposals are welcome. Ideally the projects proposed should be interesting and strong/promising in many aspects, but needing some extra help in the specific area described. Of course at least the lead developer should be there, willing to be convinced about good ideas and willing to implement them. We will prioritize the invitation of other top contributors of the projects selected.

So please, tell names of projects and the day where they would fit best.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I would vote for Maemo Mapper! :)

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Some ideas:

Concept: DOSBox frontend / game launcher
It's great to be able to run old DOS games, but having to operate the DOS command line is not fun. A concept for a graphical frontend to it would be helpful. Configuring input and games should be as easy as with DrNokSnes (or maybe even easier?).

Concept: MPlayer or VLC mobile UI
An alternative video player with support for more formats. They exist to some degree, but there is really no UI for them yet. A concept for an UI to easily select videos, and control playback is what this session should yield.

Concept: Device-wide search
The idea is to have a simple way to search (via keyboard input) all data on the device - conversations, contacts, music, videos, documents, images, e-mails, notes, applications, ... Something like Gnome Do or Quicksilver, but for Maemo. Ideally, we would be able to replace the "type-to-search contacts" of the Desktop with this (but that's a technical issue, the idea is to get a concept for an easy-to-use device-wide search tool).

Usability: Nicotine (or any other P2P filesharing app)
There should be an easy way to search for files, download them and then play them back. Nicotine is already there, but there's too much configuration and clicking involved. I think Daniel would be happy to get some support here.

Usability: Dopewars
Improve the usability of Dopewars. Game sessions should automatically be saved and restored, trading and fighting should be easy, a better overview of the buy/sell lists, etc.. (while still retaining the original gameplay feeling.. or maybe not?). Dopewars is fun already, but the UI is lacking (try it out on Maemo 4).

Usability: irrecco
Last time I tried this, the UI was horrible (had to get the stylus out, but it was still hard to use). Still, it's (afaik) the only application that can currently make good use of the IR transmitter in the N900. The backend is available, all we now need is a beautiful and easy to use UI with which users can configure their remote control buttons.

Graphics: Panucci
This is a portrait and landscape audiobook / concert / DJ set / podcast player for Maemo (some use it for music, too). It supports bookmarks and resuming, so the UI focus should be on these features. The UI is currently not optimal, so graphic UI designs for both landscape and portrait mode would be nice. (Disclaimer: I'm a developer of Panucci)

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I propose GPXView and OSM2Go as they may need help polishing their applications.

I would propose my own application Xournal too as I would love to hear some UX ideas to be implemented (like the best way to have a tool "bar" as less intrusive as possible and ideas on how better I could implement the vast amount of tools and settings that Xournal provides).

Actually, that's the main reason why I applied for the UX hackfest.

Aniello

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Good suggestions! Can you please contacts the developers to make sure they are aware of this and willing to come?

As a user myself, I wonder about

Vim in graphics. No, that was a joke. :)

liqbase in any category ;) Choose your preferred one. Not a joke! ;)

GPodder in Graphics. With a bit of pimp this app would earn many more users, I believe.

FBReader, I'm not sure in which category but it would be great to sponsor some days of ideas and energy to this project, if they are still interested in Maemo.

Mauku, still a last mile perhaps in concepting, perhaps in graphics.

All this are personal opinions! Only willing to shake the tree to see if more fruits are ready to go to the Long Weekend.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Maybe Vim no, but GVim could :D

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

Maybe some work could be done about text input, specially regarding on-screen keyboards. The usability in that area hasn't really changed much since the beginning, and Maemo is clearly behind other existing solutions.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

The scope of UX meets Code are community projects. Still, if you make it to the long weekend most propbably you will have a chance with some of the Nokia designers partly responsible of those keyboards.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

My name is Álvaro Villalba and I'm yet another informatics engineering student at FIB.
I haven't developed anything yet for maemo, but I'm pretty interested on implement some ideas I have from quite time ago.
I think that attending Maemo Long Weekend could help me a lot and could be the push I need.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

I'm Miquel Canes from Barcelona. Now I'm studing Informatics Engineering in the FIB (UPC).
I haven't done anyting yet in maemo but I'm very interested on developing applications for it using qt and participate in the barcelona long weekend can be a very good start.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

suy, apol, lostevil, mcanes - it's *really* good to see your interest!

Please note that the right thread to discuss the local/parallel activities of the Long Weekend is this one: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33905

Also EVERYBODY: please add yourselves at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo-Barcelona_Long_Weekend (I see most of the participants in this thread are already listed but just in case).

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

cool quim!
thinking carefully, will clarify specifics asap

first thoughts
likely calendar for low hanging UI/UX fruit since there is great deal of interest already and easy to create variants from.
the orchestra collaborative app from the cocreation workshop would be a nice brain workout for the concepting :)
will have a proper think, had other things to worry about today.

Re: Tentative: UX meets Code hackfest in December @ Barcelona
 

You're right. A keyboard could be implemented as a plugin to the Input Method, and it could be developed openly with feedback from the community. However, I understand that this event is not focused on platform issues like this, but on applications and projects that can serve as good examples for future developers in Maemo.

Having said that, my vote is for Xournal. I love it, and I think that it could evolve a lot more.