Re: When could "1.1" of "firmware" be out?
 

I've also preordered in sweden and I'm a bit cranky about this too, but I'll try to restrain myself...

I don't know, but I'd bet that new Nokia phones would never be delayed in Finland while shipping in other countries.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just speculating that Nokia enjoys such tremendous goodwill and "we"-spirit among people in Finland (in general) that a sound business choice would be not to disturb those sentiments.

...so, in conclusion, all this makes me think that if ordering from Finland is not too much hassle for us here in Sweden (otherwise one could order to a friends address over there), that's what I'll do in the future.

Anyway. I'll wait for the 1.1 FW (unless I happen to be in Finland and see the N900 in a shop while still waiting for my swedish order), since anything other than Maemo is not an option for me at the moment. I want the opennes and freedom an linuxiness that Maemo has and even Android doesn't.

Re: When could "1.1" of "firmware" be out?
 

Any good reasons why not? Ie, what's the worst somebody could do with it? I'd be slightly concerned about the WLAN MAC (could be used to get stuff from tablets-dev.nokia.com at some point in the near future), but AFAIK the IMEI isn't used as an authentication token for anything...

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bad move by Nokia,
I think at this point people just want their damn phones whether SIM card or NO sim card...

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What are odds for a delivery with ver: 1.1 before end of this year?
And I mean deliver to shops and home to customers who had preordered in Sweden!

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As Browser Portrait mode was announced for Christmas at Maemo Summit I expect an update by Christmas.

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In quoting, I quoted the link, not the image.
If the original author removes the link, it'll get automatically removed (and this is what seems to have happened right now)

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I *think*, but I am not sure, one could change their IMEI and use that one. Something bad may happen.

Anyway, since is the phone ID, it's always better not to show it around. You never know what a bad hacker/cracker could do with it.

Aniello

Re: When could "1.1" of "firmware" be out?
 

You mean the same way someone could steal your license plate number and drive around with it?

WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR LICENSE PLATES!!!

I'm sorry but i've read many times that one sould protect the imei number.
i don't see why.

let someone steal it and use my imei number to make illegal phone calls

Re: When could "1.1" of "firmware" be out?
 

Changing a device's IMEI is technically very difficult, not to mention illegal in most places. If we're worried about bad guys, the main use of changing the IMEI is to work around the device being barred by the network operators after being reported lost/stolen (in which case the bad guy already has it and wants to change it to anything else, so keeping it secret is pointless).

If it was that dangerous I'm sure Nokia wouldn't print it (3 times!) on the outside of the retail box ;-)

Re: When could "1.1" of "firmware" be out?
 

Is this what Nokia Sweden talked about as version "1.1"?

http://flors.wordpress.com/2009/11/1...-and-firmware/

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No, I don't think it is. That is the first production firmware.

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NO.
1.2009.42-11 is the FINAL (1.0 of Maemo5) release.
"1.1" will be the first update.

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It turns out I was wrong about this, http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php is now up and uses the IMEI for access to firmware images.

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Has anyone seen a roadmap with estimates for ver 1.1? Is there anywhere I can follow the development of 1.1?

/oxpo

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Yes, you can follow the progrss here.

http://www.maemoproject.com/

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And what do you mean with that?

It's like: - Take a look at nokia.com (and you will find the information if you follow every link... Sherlook show us how bright you are)

Is there not any official development roadmap off any kind?
Or is the "community" only supposed to deliver applications?

At the same time: Does anybody know if the items which are maybe delivered tomorrow in UK going to have the firmware from fabric (or reflashed before delivery)?

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Now when the "SIM-problem" solved ( https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5315#c12 ) which more bugs could be left before "1.1"?

Maybe "following bugsearch":
https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?q...op&value0-0-0=

Re: When could "1.1" of "firmware" be out?
 

Oh well, there's always enough internal bugs (not in bugs.maemo.org) that you never even dared to dream of. ;-))
bugs.maemo.org is just one part of the story.

Re: When could "1.1" of "firmware" be out?
 

Right. And that is why I was surprised that Ari hinted that there could be one bug tracker in the future (in Amsterdam, correct me if I am wrong).

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It seems likely the "small update for the N900 owners to come really soon" that konttori mentions is the "1.1" firmware. In that case it is hopefully just around the corner. :)

http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.co...ound-lack.html

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Don't know how much weight to put in this statement from Klas Ström (works for Nokia, Product manager for Nokia Scandinavia):

http://www.minhembio.com/forum/index...post&p=2671684

at the end of the post, he says (something like):

Nokia online shop (sweden) will soon send out information to people that preordered there.

/oxpo

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With Sweden unable to roll out until the 3 USIM issue is fixed and released, I imagine that's a high priority that may push the next firmware release. They have already written the fix; it is being tested now. Because of that, the next firmware may be a "minor" update, fixing just that issue and perhaps other well-contained faults like the GPS not locking without a working data connection.

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Interestingly, shop.nokia.se has sent out an email to preorder customers saying the device will be delivered in week 50, but with fw 1.0, adding that 3's SIMs will not work until fw 1.1 is out. The question on everybody's minds right now is obviously what the delay was all about. It all seems extremely fishy at this point.

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See Klas Ström's tweet re this:

On minhembio.com/forum he also acknowledges the following as a valid explanation:

Translated, it roughly reads:
It could be that they listened a bit to all the complaints like for instance that we are aware of the 3 sim-card problem and that we who have pre-ordered are generally "power users", and also that they noticed 1.1 took a bit longer than expected and therefore released it to Nokia shop customers who are aware of the issue. Then it won't be released in regular shops until 1.1 is released.

So my interpretation is they basically changed their minds and decided to ship to webshop customers without the firmware update, and inform them via email of the sim card issue. Other shops might have to wait since Nokia can't be sure customers would be informed about the issue.

In addition to this they have also previously said part of the reason for the delay was to wait for larger volumes being delivered by Nokia.

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I'm interested that some people did get e-mails telling them about the 3 sim issue. I never had any official warning (although I did know about the problem). it's the last remaining thing I really want. other than not working for my SIM the device is fantastic. fingers crossed for a firmware update very soon.

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They wrote in the same email that the update was expected in the end of December, so there might not be a separate one before "the Christmas update".

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I don't think that was Klas Ström

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I really wish I could get an official time line on when this fix is expected to roll out. I'm hovering over the buy for an o2 sim, I don't really want two overlap the end of my 3 contract, but I also don't want to spend the next month unable to get the most out of my n900...

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No, the quote was a post by someone else. Klas Ström acknowledged later in the thread that it was correct.

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http://shop.nokia.se/nokia-se/produc...&culture=sv-SE

update to deliveries around week 50

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No, totally right. I was very happy to hear that. It made my day, but it will be a long and complex way to get there (technically AND socially).

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You can buy one of the SIM-only 1-month rolling contracts with someone else, so that you can switch back to 3 if you want when the fix is out. Or get a PAYG SIM.

Re: When could "1.1" of "firmware" be out?
 

No rumors or updates on when 1.1 might be released?
I will get the phone today but probably not be able to use it atleast as a phone. :)

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Most likely 22/23/24.December as a Christmas present

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1.1?

i wouldn't take the step back, 42-11 is the version in retail versions...

Re: When could "1.1" of "firmware" be out?
 

42-11 is week_of_year-build_number, so the first half of the string will not be increasing much longer now, and the second half is effectively random from the public's perspective. More to the point though, the other name for 42-11 is PR1.0 as it was the initial firmware on the retail release of the device.