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mardy 2009-12-02 15:34

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
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Originally Posted by catangel (Post 404745)
As I'm only arriving at Saturday evening (around 20:20), I can't help in that day. I hope other specialists are ready for help Mardy. I'll will provide the material gathered in Sunday to Mardy.

That's better than nothing, but I was hoping on something more interactive... :(

krebbix 2009-12-02 15:40

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
Hi Mardy,

I will do the concepting session on Friday and I am sure there will be time to look at your application as well.

Jan

upe 2009-12-03 07:03

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
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Originally Posted by yerga (Post 404997)
As a total novice in the whole issue of UX/UI/Graphics/etc. and having never been in a similar session, I think it would be great some feedback on what we might expect from the session.
Then we will be able to point what stuff in the applications have more importance, so we can use better the available time.

Hey yerga,
Well, although it's completely ok to be a total novice, I hope you won't feel like one after the happening :)
About the session, it can cover any topic within the graphic design field. I'll then think through how much of it we can deal with within the given time window. So when you look at you application, how does it look to you? How would you like to improve it? Is the application icon your crucial issue? Are there unclear icon mettaphors? Or do you feel it's general looks should be something else? Is it just coloring? Or is the area you'd like to improve somewhere deeper in the application?
From the group session you can expect to get many ideas and advice on your graphical issue. Afterwards I can give you more hands-on consultation if you like. I hope this clears things a bit.

thp 2009-12-03 09:41

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
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Originally Posted by upe (Post 404442)
I'm Ulla, the host(ess) of the Graphic design session. I'd be happy to hear from Gpodder and MaStory devs. Would you have wishes on topics that would be most beneficial for your application cases on saturday? Or is there anything else you would like me to know? Thanks for any input!

Hey, I'm the maintainer of gPodder. Here are some ideas and areas where I think gPodder could be improved, but I'm most likely routine-blinded, so I might be missing some areas where gPodder needs graphic help. Also, it's a long wishlist - feel free to prioritize ;)
  • Episode actions for quick access to play/download/delete (just a concept right now, and joppu has created icons already)
  • Application icon (color correction, simplified version for the other icon sizes (16x16, 22x22, 24x24, 26x26, 40x40, 64x64), corrections to outlines, etc.. - I'd like to keep the basic idea, though)
  • Non-annoying background for the main window (I'd like to keep the buttons, though)
  • Default cover art (placeholder) for podcasts that don't have one (example list with missing cover art)
  • Icons for downloads list (possible states: queued, downloading, finished, failed, cancelled by user, paused)
  • Icons for episode status (possible states: normal, downloaded, downloading, deleted, new - these can be different for audio/video. also, there are emblems that are overlaid and describe some additional states: unplayed, locked (deletion prevention) and missing (file is listed in database as downloaded, but cannot be found on disk))
  • Graphics for download count/unplayed count/etc.. (see this screenshot for an example, although they are generated in code using cairo atm)

Depending on the time we have, maybe there's also space for getting some graphics done for Panucci, which already works on Maemo 5 (Extras-Testing). This would mostly be for graphic buttons, maybe combined with the alternative portrait mode, so that Panucci can be integrated with gPodder, and provide a nice podcast listening experience with resuming support (the built-in media player does not do this atm).

upe 2009-12-03 11:34

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
@ thp,
Thanks! There's even room for choice, great.

mgimpl 2009-12-03 13:21

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mardy (Post 405010)
That's better than nothing, but I was hoping on something more interactive... :(

I'm Martin, hi everyone.

There will several UI and Graphics people at the event that help you out with the app. I, for one, am happy to help if there is anything I can do.

pycage 2009-12-03 13:24

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
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Originally Posted by mgimpl (Post 407454)
I'm Martin, hi everyone.

There will several UI and Graphics people at the event that help you out with the app. I, for one, am happy to help if there is anything I can do.

This is great! Thanks! :)

yerga 2009-12-03 14:06

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by upe (Post 406769)
Hey yerga,
Well, although it's completely ok to be a total novice, I hope you won't feel like one after the happening :)
About the session, it can cover any topic within the graphic design field. I'll then think through how much of it we can deal with within the given time window. So when you look at you application, how does it look to you? How would you like to improve it? Is the application icon your crucial issue? Are there unclear icon mettaphors? Or do you feel it's general looks should be something else? Is it just coloring? Or is the area you'd like to improve somewhere deeper in the application?
From the group session you can expect to get many ideas and advice on your graphical issue. Afterwards I can give you more hands-on consultation if you like. I hope this clears things a bit.

Thanks. Yes, it does.

Here is my feedback about what things can be more important to improve in MaStory:
  • A new application icon. I did the actual one, so you can see the results ;)
  • In Settings screen there are three buttons: Accounts, General, Media. It would be nice to use some nice graphics for this functions and remove the buttons (similar to the main screen of the application)
  • There are a bunch of small icons in a kind of toolbar when writing a new post. Some icons don't tell to the user very well what is the action of the button (for example, tags/categories or preview).
    It would be very nice to improve these icons or even create a new iconset for this functions (and the ones in the "HTML tags" screen)
    In total are 28 icons, so I don't know if I'm asking too much ;)
  • I'm open a new feedback and new ideas

darabella 2009-12-08 14:04

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
A big thanks to everyone who participated!

If you still need help with your app from a UX perspective, feel free to join up to #maemo or #maemo-ui on irc.freenode.net - a lot of the folks who came out for the weekend are on IRC and can help you out!

Adele: aSIMULAtor or aSIMULAter
Steffen: sthalme
Martin S: Martin
Jussi: jmaaniit
Martin G: MartinG
Jan: krebbix

To all of you asking about the slides: I'll be putting the slides on slideshare and elsewhere online shortly, and will tell you where to find them!

Good luck with all of your future development :)

VDVsx 2009-12-08 23:48

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
I started a feedback thread about the long weekend here: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=417690

Please share your thoughts :)

darabella 2009-12-17 13:46

Re: UX meets Code: the work in progress thread
 
If anyone's still confused about conceptual design by the way, I just put this online: http://www.forum.nokia.com/Technolog...l_Design.xhtml


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