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soleil 2009-12-13 12:55

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Hello i set up Nokia Messaging witth my gmail on my N900 . it works fine on my N900 but I can't log in on email.nokia.com .That say"The user name and password you entered do not match any accounts on record. Please make sure that you have correctly entered the first email address you used when you signed up for Nokia Messaging.".

CharlieCharlie 2009-12-13 15:40

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Getting mixed results when reading a mail in my browser on my PC. Sometimes it marks it as read on the N900, sometimes it doesn't.

Not the end of the world, but can get a bit annoying sometimes.

electric1 2009-12-14 02:36

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Yeah I have the same problem with reading gmail on my computer. Sometimes it takes a couple hours for it to be marked read on the N900 and sometimes it never shows as read.

jobber99 2009-12-16 16:10

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nokia messaging was working fine for me for a week, then now i can't send email using nokia messaging, and emails disappear from my inbox randomly (sometimes i see no emails in my mailbox at all)

mikec 2009-12-16 16:13

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soleil (Post 425536)
Hello i set up Nokia Messaging witth my gmail on my N900 . it works fine on my N900 but I can't log in on email.nokia.com .That say"The user name and password you entered do not match any accounts on record. Please make sure that you have correctly entered the first email address you used when you signed up for Nokia Messaging.".

The login there is the gmail or hotmail etc address and password that you used when setting up NM.

mikec 2009-12-16 16:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by smage (Post 421015)
Ok one problem I have which I have searched and have been unable to find a solution for is:

When using Nokia Messaging for gmail, when I delete a mesage from my Inbox, it gets deleted from the server as well. I would like to turn this feature off. Is there an option for this that I have missed?

In addition to this, I haven't yet managed to archive my emails (on the gmail server) through Nokia messaging, haven't found an option for that either, even though I have selected All Mail on the Nokia Messaging website.

Any tips?

sounds like you want a pop mail account. you need to change your gmail account to pop rather than imap and ten give it a try.

mikec 2009-12-16 16:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by john12 (Post 421813)
Can somebody please help me with Nokia Messaging?

I got an SMS from NM for the download link.
I clicked on the link, then it takes me to:

Choose a platform from the list below that best matches your device type
I selected Symbian Series 60 5.0 ( Its not showing me Maemo platform option)

Then when i download it to the device. I am not able to open it.

When I the downloaded file, it says:
Select an application form the list to open file 'Nokia'

How to go ahead from here?

ignore the link, NM is already on your device. select other service providers and you should see NM listed in the setup

mikec 2009-12-16 16:20

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davidfoley (Post 420414)
I have no problems with email from two other providers, but 1 Gmail and another Gmail hosted email account are giving me problems-

In relation to the standard Gmail account- as I typically check my mail with Apple Mail, messages are not marked as read when I check the account in my browser- the n900 mail app attempted (and actually managed after about an hour!) to tell me I had 13k+ new messages. However, every time I tried to open an email, the mail app would freeze- I assumed it was trying to download all those messages (but prayed to god that it was not!). So I deleted the account (on the n900) then marked all unread emails as read (using Gmail browser interface) and tried setting up on the n900 again- this time it correctly reported no new email messages--- but the same problem- every time I try to open an email- the app freezes. I can't seem to find any settings that would manage new mail retrieval... anyone else?

(With the hosted Gmail account, I can access no problem, but cannot send email)

if you are using IMAP yep there is a bug with large mailboxes that causes Modest to go away for a long time. use Nokia messaging to get your gmails pushed to you.

mikec 2009-12-16 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Strive_Masiwa (Post 419503)
I have set it up successfully to recieve gmail emails but when I try to reply one it just puts the message in the outbox and does not send.
Anyone also experive this issue? Any resolution?

default is send and receive every 15 minutes change it by editing the account on your n900

lpaddikt 2009-12-16 19:29

Complete Gmail Settings
 
Okay for Gmail here are the complete settings:
Open wizard:
Region: USA or other
Service Provider: Other
Account Title: "your choosing"

Next

Name: "Name you want to appear on emails"
Username: "Your email username"
Password: "Your email password"
E-mail address: "Your email"

Next

Account Type: IMAP4
Incoming server: imap.gmail.com
Secure Authentication: "leave unchecked"
Secure Connection: SSL (IMAP4S)

Next

Outgoing server: smtp.gmail.com
Secure authentication: Login
Secure Connection: SSL

Next and finish.

Go to your email account now and it'll update and it should work. Hope it helps.

jcompagner 2009-12-16 20:36

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If we had IMap-Idle then yes gmail would push the mails to us. That works fine (Profimail on S60 works fine in this mode)

But the biggest problem for me is that the way google works is not the way the email clients really work. It boils down on 2 things;

1> threaded view of google is so good. Why isnt there any client that does that that way?

2> archive button (Maybe this could be fixed by moving it to a different folder? out of inbox?)

I really miss the google java app in this, it just was the perfect application for google mail, it did exactly the same stuff as the browser.

myk 2010-01-04 17:42

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Whats the idea of Nokia messaging on the N900? What is it meant to achieve compared to using IMAP or Exchange?
-reduce data use?
- save battery? I don't see how on the n900. With SIP, Skype, IM, etc it will always have a data connection anyway.
- extra settings? For some reason, Maemo lacks the ability to set start and end download hours for IMAP, to stop it beeping in the middle of the night.
- easier admin. This might matter if I had lots of mailboxes.
- IMAP idle? The nokia messaging FAQ says "Automatic delivery of email using the IMAP idle protocol". So its just using IMAP? Why bother with the middle man then?
And if the N900 can do idle for Nokia server, why not for IMAP in general?

But right now I'm not seeing much difference in accessing my google apps mailbox via NM or directly by IMAP, except for thing that IMAP should be able to do, but are missing on the n900.

TA-t3 2010-01-05 09:04

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The mail program (Modest) doesn't currently support IMAP IDLE, so we can't have push email directly, unfortunately.

ViciousXUSMC 2010-01-05 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jadpro (Post 405987)
Using nokia messaging my html emails dont fully load, even after i press the picture button. What gives? anyone else have this problem? I really like this better than gmail on IMAP but i may have to go back to it if i can't do HTML.

I seem to be having the same issue, but just signed up so will sit for a day and see if it irons it out. Plain text came in ok like the welcome to nokia messaging email but all my other stuff has html or images in it and it only loads the first screens worth of data. The service is also very slow for me. Email takes a long time to load while the POP3 versions I have setup on alternate accounts load very quickly.

I dont even seem to see the email in my inbox on nokia messaging when I get the alert, have to wait a while. Im on my high speed wi-fi at home too so net speed is not a problem.

I do not think I am going to rely on this service anyways since its just a trial, paying for it would be a bit much (unless its very cheap) I can live with POP3 if I must and I am sure there is or will be a free application that can use email push besides nokia messenger.

drukane 2010-01-07 12:35

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does anyone have clear instructions on how to set up gmail on the n900 please, this sh**t is stressing me out please help

stobbsc 2010-01-07 12:40

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I have my gmail setup using nokia messeging and it works fine not problems.

myk 2010-01-07 13:51

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drukane (Post 457174)
does anyone have clear instructions on how to set up gmail on the n900 please, this sh**t is stressing me out please help

Welcome to Nokia's Maemo beta-testing programme :-)
Whats to set up? You can access gmail.com in the web browser and have the full gmail interface - search, threads, ...
All that is missing is a desktop applet to notify you of new messages. Is there one? (other than using modest just as a notifier)

Sure you can always download using IMAP or NM to modest. But modest is aptly named, compared to the gmail web interface.

BTW, if you are going to use "shoot" as a euphemism for "shít", there is no need to asterisk out the vowels.

lpaddikt 2010-01-13 23:15

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Check the page before, I put the instructions on there.

vietn900 2010-01-14 02:44

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
i like nokia messaging best :)

troff76 2010-01-30 20:21

Re: Complete Gmail Settings
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lpaddikt (Post 430858)
Okay for Gmail here are the complete settings:
Open wizard:
Region: USA or other
Service Provider: Other
Account Title: "your choosing"

Next

Name: "Name you want to appear on emails"
Username: "Your email username"
Password: "Your email password"
E-mail address: "Your email"

Next

Account Type: IMAP4
Incoming server: imap.gmail.com
Secure Authentication: "leave unchecked"
Secure Connection: SSL (IMAP4S)

Next

Outgoing server: smtp.gmail.com
Secure authentication: Login
Secure Connection: SSL

Next and finish.

Go to your email account now and it'll update and it should work. Hope it helps.

At last! It worked with the above instructions!
Mind you, you MUST login to your Gmail first (through your browser), click Settings, click "Forwarding and POP/IMAP" and Enable IMAP Access, and then Save Changes.

,,,I only had POP Access enabled initially :rolleyes: and obviously didn't work :p

BillyTheFish 2010-01-31 12:03

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strive_Masiwa (Post 419503)
I have set it up successfully to recieve gmail emails but when I try to reply one it just puts the message in the outbox and does not send.
Anyone also experive this issue? Any resolution?

I've got this issue as well. Most annoying! Did you find a solution?



Other things missing so far are: Threaded view and Archiving.

Oh and adding stars and being able to view or add tags.

planetf1 2010-01-31 12:27

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
I'm now using
Mail - nokia messaging
Calendar - MFe

any thoughts on what to use for google tasks?

Meelis 2010-01-31 12:35

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
For me overall Gmail works well with the built-in mail client.

But, if I delete spam messages from the phone, then they do not get removed. If I look through the web client, the messages are still there just it shows they have been read.

markasmith 2010-02-20 09:53

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Hi,

I don't know if anyone is going to be able to help on this. Like other posters, I cannot connect to gmail: "Unable to connect to imap.gmail.com. Server name or port number may be incorrect."

This is a brand new N900, which I have updated to latest software (2.2009.51-1.203.2). Problem was there before and after updating.

I have tried using the Wizard, and I have tried Ipaddikt's instructions. Both give the same results. I have meticulously checked all the details, and done this many many times now.

I do not have a (valid) SIM in my phone because it's not being activated until Tuesday, but I am able to connect to the internet via wi-fi with no problems - browser works fine. I don't see any reason this shouldn't work over wi-fi..?

I have IMAP enabled in Google. Also Yahoo (POP) email fails in the same way on the N900. I suspect it's not a problem with the email settings, but a problem with the way it's trying to connect, or something like that.

Can anyone help please?

Thanks!
-Mark

vitaliysh 2010-02-26 13:03

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Could anyone clarify what's the point of https://email.nokia.com/?

I don't see any way to login there.

What I'm doing wrong?

1. Setup new email account on N900: Email->New Account->Nokia Messaging->Put in my gmail details.
2. Tried to login to https://email.nokia.com/ with same details, but I get password/login wrong message...

vishisback 2010-05-31 13:42

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Hi ppl !
now i have a very strange issue with the nokia messaging service !
Everywhere i read that i can set it up adding new account and select the nokia messaging service from the drop down menu list in SERVICE PROVIDER !
BUT, THE PROBLEM IS I AM NOT ABLE TO FIND THE NOKIA MESSAGING SERVICE inside the service provider list !!

I tried changing the region to US Uk and India also , but i couldn get through !
Please help ! wat do i do ?

i am not even sure if this Thread is active ! :(

but still ,,, thanks in advance for the help ! :)

P.S :- i am on the newst firmware of n900 i.e:- 10.2010.19-1.002

ed00 2010-05-31 14:33

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vishisback (Post 691771)
Hi ppl !
now i have a very strange issue with the nokia messaging service !
Everywhere i read that i can set it up adding new account and select the nokia messaging service from the drop down menu list in SERVICE PROVIDER !
BUT, THE PROBLEM IS I AM NOT ABLE TO FIND THE NOKIA MESSAGING SERVICE inside the service provider list !!

I tried changing the region to US Uk and India also , but i couldn get through !
Please help ! wat do i do ?

i am not even sure if this Thread is active ! :(

but still ,,, thanks in advance for the help ! :)

P.S :- i am on the newst firmware of n900 i.e:- 10.2010.19-1.002

Some service provider for example in my case is T-Mobile blocking Nokia Messaging and you cant find it in E-mail setting. So just remove SIM card and replace with dummy one and you will be able to see it and setup account.

Larzan 2010-06-16 18:38

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vitaliysh (Post 547509)
Could anyone clarify what's the point of https://email.nokia.com/?

I don't see any way to login there.

What I'm doing wrong?

1. Setup new email account on N900: Email->New Account->Nokia Messaging->Put in my gmail details.
2. Tried to login to https://email.nokia.com/ with same details, but I get password/login wrong message...

Same problem here, it drives me crazy. Although i am not sure which of my email accounts i used firt with the NM, none of them work!
I can use my accounts like normal IMAP accounts although i now set them up through NM, but no difference to the normal accounts set up without it. And on the Nokia mail page there is no hint as to where to ask for help.....

I have no idea what else to try.

schaggo 2010-06-16 18:54

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Nokia Messaging has a nasty "bug". Breaks down like that:
When you register a Nokia Messaging account on the device itself, your account details will be the same as the first email address you would like to poll with it. Now, Nokia Messaging has a password policy, the password has to be of a certain complexity. If the password for the email account you would like to configure doesnt match the complexity Nokia Messaging wants, you can't setup the account. A corrupted account gets setup respectively. Why?

To poll the email account, address and password of the account has to be provided. If password isn't good enough for Nokia, a faulty Nokia Messaging account will be created which cannot be used. If you provide a strong enough password for Nokia Messaging, which doesnt match your accounts password, a faulty Nokia Messaging account will be created which cannot be used because of the password not matching your account password.

Workaround: email Nokia about this and let them remove the insufficiently passworded and thus faulty Nokia Messaging account from their database. Once removed, set a stronger password for your (Gmail)account and recreate the account in Nokia Messaging.

The way I got it done: I didnt want to wait for Nokia to clean up the database, so I tried a different approach. If you have several email addresses and anyone/some of them is suffisingly passworded, use that account in Nokia Messaging. After you have a working Nokia Messaging account, you can add any insufficiently passworded accounts you like. Example: 2 accounts, 1 Hotmail with strong PW, 1 Gmail with simple PW. On the device, register a "Hotmail-Nokia-Messaging" account using the strong Hotmail password. Once succeeded, add your "insecure" Gmail account to Nokia Messaging later.
So my Nokia Messaging login is user@hotmail.com and this account polls, at the same time, my hotmail and my Gmail account. And the Gmail password I never changed. Got an email reply two weeks later though, the account has been purged from the database ;)

garyc2010 2010-06-16 18:57

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremiah (Post 402471)
Gmail does not provide Exchange server interface without special arrangements. Exchange is Microsofts proprietary mail server format and protocol, one that breaks a lot of the standard mail protocols and lacks functionality. Fortunately Gmail offers both POP and IMAP so you can effectively use those protocols for your N900 syncing.

"and lacks functionality"......"Fortunately Gmail offers both POP and IMAP"

This is the main reason I dont use my N900, and then you get these ill educated statements.

can you please fking tell me what is so fortunate about pop3 ??? this is 2010 you do know that ?????

Can you please point out what functionality POP/IMAP provides OVER Activesync ?


hahhahaha I just had to read that again "so you can effectively use those protocols for your N900 syncing".....hahahahah pop3 syncing............................I like you man, you are so funny.

garyc2010 2010-06-16 19:07

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsuggs (Post 403036)
I have a regular gmail account that is my primary email account. All of my contacts/calendar are associated with that account. I need to be able to sync email, calendar and contacts...this is the highest priority.

I also have a few domains setup with google apps that I would also like to be able to check email for.

My work also has an exchange server that would be nice to just check email from (no calendar, contacts, etc), but I don't think it has IMAP enabled.

My assumptions/questions, please give any advice/input:
  1. I will have to use MFE for my main gmail account so that contacts and calendar can be synced. Is there any other way?.
  2. I will only be able to sync the primary calendar associated with my main gmail account. Is there any way to sync additional calendars?
  3. I can then use either an IMAP connection for the other google apps domains or should I set them up with Nokia Messenger?
  4. I will not be able to sync with my work email at all since I'm only allowed one Exchange account.

Dont waste your time trying to sync the N900 with Anything, And dont listen to people here telling you to use IMAP, no good admin would leave the IMAP port open on a server, well certainly no good nix admin at any rate, and pop is *almost* useless.

Nokia falsely advertised exchange sync/mislead people as to the N900's REAL Syncing capabilities.

Carrier Pigeon would be a better bet/faster than waiting for Nokia to implement this most basic of features.

schaggo 2010-06-17 01:32

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsuggs (Post 403036)
I will have to use MFE for my main gmail account so that contacts and calendar can be synced. Is there any other way?.

Unfortunately, I guess not. But I'd sync contacts only, read on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsuggs (Post 403036)
I will only be able to sync the primary calendar associated with my main gmail account. Is there any way to sync additional calendars?

Since MfE-to-Google doesnt really work, I suggest you use Erminig-NG [http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=195] to sync calendars. Erminig-NG supports syncing multiple Google-calendars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsuggs (Post 403036)
I can then use either an IMAP connection for the other google apps domains or should I set them up with Nokia Messenger?

I suggest Nokia Messaging since you get push-like functionality with it. And even if you decide to poll the accounts, less traffic is generated that way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jsuggs (Post 403036)
I will not be able to sync with my work email at all since I'm only allowed one Exchange account.

I'm afraid this is correct, unless theres IMAP or POP which in turn you could sync using Nokia Messaging. Or good old Outlook Web Access (OWA) using MicroB...

dchky 2010-06-17 05:46

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garyc2010 (Post 717990)
Dont waste your time trying to sync the N900 with Anything, And dont listen to people here telling you to use IMAP, no good admin would leave the IMAP port open on a server, well certainly no good nix admin at any rate, and pop is *almost* useless.

Nokia falsely advertised exchange sync/mislead people as to the N900's REAL Syncing capabilities.

Carrier Pigeon would be a better bet/faster than waiting for Nokia to implement this most basic of features.

What kind of advice is this? IMAP is perfectly fine so long as you encrypt the passwords. In any case, IMAP(s) is trivially simple to set up. You are wrong good sir. Wrong, and I challenge you to a duel.

However, about syncing, I somewhat concur. It's a pain in the backside. I set up syncml and it works fine now, however getting it set up was a lengthy afternoon trip down frustration lane.

smoothc 2010-08-12 18:08

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My question is: Why push does not work with gmail and the N900? It does work with the iphone. Is it Nokia's fault or google´s?

bemymonkey 2010-08-12 18:29

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Can't you just set up the regular E-mail client for push via IMAP Idle? Works great with Gmail...

smoothc 2010-08-12 18:36

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Thanks, but i dont want to check for email every X minutes. I want push mail, like the one nokia messaging offers.

bemymonkey 2010-08-12 18:38

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
IMAP Idle = true push mail.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP_IDLE

smoothc 2010-08-12 18:55

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Well then its just broken.
I send an email to my gmail account, then i wait, wait a little bit more and never get the mail unless i open the mail app and check for new mail.
On the contrary Nokia messaging will notify me instantly when a new mail arrives.
Thanks anyway for the answer, i just wanted to know WHY it does work with the iphone but not with the N900.

markusm 2010-08-12 19:09

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bemymonkey (Post 784490)
Can't you just set up the regular E-mail client for push via IMAP Idle? Works great with Gmail...

Since when has IMAP Idle worked on the N900? It doesn't :/

bemymonkey 2010-08-12 19:12

Re: N900 Gmail Clarification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by markusm (Post 784535)
Since when has IMAP Idle worked on the N900? It doesn't :/

That's precisely what I was asking... I never got around to getting an N900, so I have no idea. Just seemed like a good alternative to a dedicated Gmail app...


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