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4 GB huh? That is interesting. Nice theme by the way. I'm guessing the new OS
release will be available for us 770 owner at the same time (or soon after) the "official"
Nokia announcement.

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Interesting,
The Manual for the N800 has no 'specs' page. Has anyone been able to confirm the type of processor in this thing?

Furthermore, can this one play XviD video if I get mplayer working? I wonder how the OE distro will run on this baby!

diJenerate

Re: The Nokia N800?
 

I will get exclusive info late tomorrow. Stay tuned.

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I suppose the upgraders will be happy to snatch up this hardware enhancement. The increased CPU and RAM capabilities afforded by ever-reducing chip costs should be quite useful.

I just hope it doesn't leave legacy 770 owners rotting on a no-longer-supported platform. I myself have no need for a webcam.

Sure, applications will probably remain binary-compatible, so long as any OS upgrade is made available to the 770. But who's to say that newer applications (or even the new OS itself) will run at acceptable performance levels on the reduced capabilities of the older hardware?

It's the old "spend more money to upgrade, or be left behind" trick that Microsoft mastered and on which computer hardware vendors have been capitalizing ever since. Cell phone manufacturers have been quick to catch on, though, so I guess this move by Nokia should have come as no surprise to the more seasoned of us. I'm as quick as anyone to jump to upgrade, but in this case, I'm staying put.

Well, enough cynicism! Good luck to all. Let's hope that, in this case, innovation and legacy support can find a way to coexist.

Re: The Nokia N800?
 

Nokia is now running an ad on engadget for n800. The link, unfortunately, goes to their n-series line, which does not feature the n800... Probably will soon though...

I agree with gnuite - I don't think that I'll shell out the $400 for the upgrade. Maybe they'll have a buy-back program?

Re: The Nokia N800?
 

N800 seems to be not available in Europe ? !.

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Two people on the N800? Be careful not to crack the screen aight...:D

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I want to run down to compUSA and buy one so bad, but I've spent so much money this Christmas on gadgets that I don't think I can get one without the significant other screaming at me. I'll have to find someone to buy my 770 first. Also to those who have gotten one already, how is the performance on the N800. Like when reading a pdf document, playing video, audio, usb host?, usb charging?, what opera version, what flash version, java?, what programs is included to utilise webcam, does it have audio recording or video recording, bluetooth headphones? Is there a better text entry, better handwriting recognition. Is it significantly faster? What about existing programs...will it all work on it. You would think that if they bothered to put a webcam on there they'd might as well put a higer res than a 640x480 for taking decent pictures as well.

Anyone interested in a 770? In good condition? :)

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I am on my way tomorrow to see if the Local CompUSA here in North Houston has them available and if they do I am going to get me one :)

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More pictures and a little more info on the N800 care of John Tokash's blog

http://blog.tokash.org
http://images.tokash.org/main.php?g2_itemId=143

Shame there are not more of it in operation with more screen captures to illustrate changes in applications and the new ones for example with the webcam. (But they are sure to be here soon)

I do hope so, then we can be more proactive in helping Nokia sales by push/progressing the Nokia 770 successors application/usage footprint. (Which is in our own interests too)

The N800 looks a more polished and finished product than the Nokia 700 from the pictures posted so far.

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I understand your point, but frankly the cat was already out of the bag, so why not sell them? If anything Nokia should probably be happy with the fact that (a) they made a big splash on engadget BEFORE the flood of CES drowned them out and (b) some very enthusiast bloggers (including people in this forum) are essentially doing their marketing for them by posting pics, specs, and initial reviews.

You've obviously known a lot about this new product for a while and have done a very good job (from what I can tell) of keeping quiet about it. Your ability to respect that embargo is commendable, I guess, but the people at CompUSA are SUPPOSED to sell the thing (just maybe not quite yet)! If anything, Nokia should be happy that they have sold X number of units before the thing was even properly announced!

Maybe we've all been trained by "Steve Jobs" school of product launches that they have to come completely out of left field and only be available for purchase at the pre-determined time.

If anything, this type of launch rewards those enthusiasts with a brief moment of exclusivity before the mainstream picks up on it. After all, this being a product that relies on the open source community to build apps, why not reward that community with a sneak peek at it?

Anyway, not much longer to wait for the official announcement regardless.
(PS--I hope this doesn't come off as trash talk. Its late here and my rant-detector is running low..time to sleep)

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I look forward to seeing some screenshots of the new OS and applications running.

Though the N800's specs sound more like what the 770 "should have been," sadly I find the 800 quite "esthetically challenged" in comparison with its slim, classy black-and-grey predecessor. The 800's curves and color look outdated and kind of nerdy to me. Despite its specs, I personally don't see myself wanting to carry around a device like this.

In addition, I think it's a shame the hard slip-cover has disappeared. This made the device really portable. But I guess it will create a larger market for more durable cases via Brando, Proporta, etc. (which of course implies additional expenditure).

The lack of a built-in stand has never been a major issue for me, because the only time I need one is if I'm using the 770 with a keyboard, and my Stowaway Bluetooth KB has a perfect built-in stand. Though it's true that if I wanted to remove that stand in order to use the KB with my recently-purchased Samsung Q1b, it would be useful if the 770 had a built-in stand.

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Improved bluetooth headset support is what I would like to see on the n800 (if anyone can check tihs?)
I can then use my itech clip headset plugged into speakers or tv etc http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=136837

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My 770 is already up on eBay ;)

A few of observations in the little time I played with it last night:

This thing is very quick and responsive. - this ALONE is worth upgrading to me.

No application crashes yet and I was running a few concurrently. In the email app, the 770 would annoyingly pause when using the scroll bar - no sign of this.

Speakers are obviously a lot louder with two at the bottom.

I hate the little sleeve that it comes in - even the black pouch from the 770 would have been better than this IMHO. The N800 does feel a lot more sturdier so I'm not too afraid of not having the metal face cover.

The videos I had stored on my 770 do not work on the N800 - it gives me a file format not supported message. I screwed around with this a bit and instead of 352 x 272 .AVI files, I am having to make 480 x 288 .MP4 files to get it to play them.

And as I mentioned before, the N800 is recognizing a 4 GB SD card. I might possibly pick up an 8 GB just out of curiosity to see if it works.

So far I can tell you that I Iove the upgrade and I can't get rid of my 770 fast enough!

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Flash video of N800 booting and running apps (including a youtube video!) here.

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Oh my God - 499 EUR equates to £336, while $400 equates to only £205 so this is over 50% markup for us Brits compared to the US price, nice! I'd have happily paid £250 for the N800 which is still a £50 markup compared to the US price, but an extra £130 is a bit bl**dy steep Nokia!

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cagilaba:

Well I agree with your observations about its horrible looking exterior, I have been so happy with my 770 (which I always use my case with). I am very much looking forward to a speed increase, despite having to carry around that ugly looking chud of the 800. (OK maybe that was a bit harsh, since I have only seen pictures, but its not pretty) I also never used my stand, from the 770, it may come in handy but, I have the nokia bt keyboard, and it has a little stand that slide out of the keyboard, so its never really been an issue. Also the webcam adds many more possibilities for this device. Does the webcam turn 360 and what is the megapixel of the camera function?

My 770 is out for repair, I have been offered 240$ for the 770 from the repair center because it is past 30 days, so far I had turned it down. I am calling 9:00am monday morning to ask them to send a check. I am praying they did fix it yet, although I talked to them friday afternoon and they had not. So Compusa has let some of thee slip through, what is the actual release date, any Compusa employees out there?????

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The webcam is VGA so 640x480 - not even a megapixel!

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does it take still frames? at 640x480? You think it would be at least the screen size.

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This video is fun, wathcing him launch Opera reminds me of ten years ago when the Psion Series5 was replaced with the 5mx : twice the CPU frequency (33mhz-->66 :-) and twice the RAM (8MB-->16 :-). Same form factor and apps, just twice as fast :-)

Of course there is a bit more than that to the N800, but i do hope the rumours about the european prices are unfounded : same price in euros instead of dollars is bad enough, but a hundred more ?!

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Hello,

I've been to my local Compusa today and they have four in stock and on display. $399.00.

I have one on hold while I make my decision today.

J

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J, what are you waiting for man, go for it! ;-)

I have the itch too.. BAD! :)

--J in DC

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Why is it called "N800" iso 800. Does the N reffer to the N-series used fror Nokia's phones?

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I just got my N800 and I am very impressed.

One thing I do like. It seems the screen is glass instead of a film ontop of glass. It seems its a lot less likely to be marked by use than the 770 was.

Very slick.

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Yes, it does. The box too says "welcome to the Nokia Nseries"

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I hope the new device won't cost 499 € in Europe, when it's so much cheaper in the US. Hmm, will there be any problems with wifi or GPRS over cell-phone when using a US device in Europe?
C'mon, 499 € must be a joke, no?

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Let's wait till tomorrow before getting heart beats up over other than the great new device! :) I am in the US so I am ok anyway though (unless CompUSA in addition to the first sale date also got the price wrong.. oh my.. now I made myself worried... :)) I doubt that the price could be so different on the two continents. Also, I don't think there would be a problem buying one in the US and using in Europe, other than the minor annoyance of the power plug.

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Ok I did it. It is beautiful. I’m a fairly new user so I’m somewhat overwhelmed but what I see so far I love. I had the 770 but found it to limited so I hoping in the long run this will be the one.

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What happened to the buttons on top? Are they just smaller or has the alternate view button been removed from the N800? Is it gone completely or is it merged somehow into the zoom buttons?

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Can anyone that has an N800 in their hands post whether or not there is some form of headset functionality, either via BT or wired? Just something other than holding the unit against the side of your head?

Thanks!

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They are still there at the top left - just a lot smaller.

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Thanks for the compliment. It's just that there's a big difference between the previous leaks and actually selling them before the proper date. It was made VERY clear to resellers that they were to respect the launch date, and that date was prominent on shipping cartons. The reason disobeying that is a problem is because it puts honorable resellers at a disadvantage.

To be honest, I hope some heads roll over this. I'm not naive enough to have previously thought it couldn't happen, but the fact that it was easily possible still doesn't make it right.

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See, I told everyone not to jump to conclusions about its look and feel. ;) Since I first saw/held one I immediately felt it was a significant improvement in form factor alone.

I have some disappointment in certain design decisions but other than one (which was a problem with the 770 too) they are not showstoppers IMO.

There are naturally some performance improvements. It remains to be seen how significant the community will deem them to be.

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I can confirm that it comes with a wired stereo headset with microphone

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btw. I love the pivoting caMera. Can't wait to see some video software to take advantage of it.

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I would like to hear from any N800 users who experience an image that will not flip after 90 degree rotation (toward the rear). Please start a new thread in Troubleshooting and/or PM me. Thanks.

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They are still there just smaller and chromed. Another bad style decision I am afraid. What was the point of making them smaller and harder to find and push? Nokia realy did it wrong messing with the functional simplicity of the 770 and going for more flash at the expense of function.

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Although I still don't think I'll spend the money to upgrade - I am curious about one thing: How is the battery life?

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A penny for that showstopper of yours ? :-)

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What in the name of the Seventh Hell is that blotch on the bottom left side of the screen?