Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Pecan doesn't do video.
So, it's better to have choices until they are the same or one has better and more features than the others.
I think Haze can be removed though as Pecan has superceded Haze.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Ok. This makes this even more absurd. HOW on earth I would have known this? For some "probably" obvious reason there is no mention about video on any of the links I pasted before.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

pecan seems to be the best of the three, but im having a couple of issues with it.

first, im having problems when im sent a message while offline. when i try to go back online, it's able to connect for a second and the i get the "unable to conncect to one or more accounts" message. then it tries to connect again and the same thing keeps happening. i have to log in on my pc to receive the message sent while i was offline and then pecan can connect normally.

the second issue has to do with the screen name. it doesn't seem to remember it if one goes offline and the back on. is anyone experiencing either of these problems?

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

I have noticed this also. Where this should be reported?

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

I've never seen that problem before. Anyway, check how to debug on the N900, and how to report issues.

That's a known issue and will be fixed on the next release. FTR, tp-haze has the same problem, except that it doesn't even try to set the screen name even once.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

I agree. I didn't know tp-butterfly had that video code already merged and released. msn-pecan will not have support for that in some time, so I think both have their advantages and should be available. But libpurple's MSN? I don't see any advantage with it; the developers even said it's not properly supported, that most of them don't care about it, and that they need help =/

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

I've just tried the latest version of Pecan (0.1.0~rc3-0maemo3)...

Works perfectly so far... :) Great work felipec...! :)

Bye bye haze and butterfly... ;)

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Does it support video chat/call ?

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Haven't tested but if You read felipec's (the author of msn-pecan) post about the subject in this thread I wouldn't count on it... ;)

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

No it doesn't

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

The butterfly 0.8 has the video function broken anyway.
So, I'm running pecan most of the time, assuming it has better battery life, and if do video, run butterfly 0.7.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

just installed msn pecan but its not connecting, uninstalled the haze version as it connected now and then.

do i need to install anything else with msn pecan?

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Are you sure you are trying the latest one? (0.1.0~rc3-0maemo2)

I made some changes there so that haze couldn't possibly interfere with it.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

I have the same problem. and yes i downloaded and installed 0.1.0~rc3-0maemo2 from extras-testing rep.

btw i uninstalled haze version!! still i have the same problem!

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

yes downloaded today, i removed all haze plugins and rebooted phone but does not connect

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Dang! Well, if you want this issue to be looked at you can file a bug report following these steps.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

hey looks like the problem is fixed in the latest version, it's working perfect now. great job!

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

which version and what plugin ?

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

with the latest version i still have the same problem with pecan as with butterfly
If i switch wifi networks (or wifi -> 3G) then all my accounts reconnect except msn. That one then reports as "network error"

With butterfly when i got into this state it was very hard to recover from it (i think a reboot was somehow needed) But with pecan it is just going into the account settings and press save. Then it can reconnect

So it seems that pecan just time for reconnection is just to little, it just stops a bit to early with it.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

When in offline mode (invisible), display pictures of contacts are not downloaded. Anyone experiencing this?

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

any update about video chat fix? it sucks that its broken in 0.8 version.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Folks having msn running on my phone is pretty important to me and I got an N900 even though everyone else I know is going BB. Now coming from an E71 on my flaky 2g Edge service I never had issues staying connected with msn using an app called talkonaut on symbian. I believe this was a jabber client of some sort and would connect to talkonaut servers.

My issue is that no matter what option I try I always seem to get disconnected eventually. It is not an obvious disconnect either since the phone still shows green as online, I know I am not connected since my contact list shows everyone is offline. I have myself added to my coneact list and I always see my self listed as online.

I tried Pecan today and the same thing happened, after about an hour or so all my contacts went offline. I know people are online because if I disconnect and reconnect everyone magically shows online and start msging me :p

Any idea why that would be happening? Does this basically mean that my edge service is too poor to use msn on my n900? I did some pings and I get like 300 ms or so to google....

I did have some luck with pidgin though the battery life was way too poor for me to get through a day with it.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

woodyear99 -> I would think that You're connection is dropping (as You mention)... Haven't heard of this problem before...

But still it SHOULD reconnect...

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Yeah it probably is, I wish it would reconnect though instead of just showing that I am connected when I am not in reality. Makes it difficult to know what's going on.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

The latest version of Pecan seems to drain more battery life, at least for me. When I'm online, the n900 becomes slightly warm but as soon as i disconnect, the n900 cools down and battery drain decreases significantly.

Has anyone else made this observation?

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Yes that is the first thing I noticed when using pecan, it definitely makes the phone warmer. Especially when compared to when I use jabber servers. I still think Jabber is the most power efficient way of using IM on the N900. That said I also get the previously mentioned disconnect issue on jabber as well, it does not autoreconnect. Weird since I do not have problems staying connected with pidgin though that is a massive battery eater so no good for me.....

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Interesting, I'll take a look at that.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

How can I transfer files via this msn conversation plugin?

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

None of the MSN plugins support file transfer.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Any solution for file transfer via MSN?

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

I cant connect to msn on 3g network but ok with wifi, is something wrong? :confused:

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

I think MSN Pecan do that!!

http://felipec.wordpress.com/2010/02...anks-valgrind/

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

I tried the latest pecan build from extras-devel, it is still making my battery warm when the phone is in standby with noticeable battery drain.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

I have this problem to. I would like to always be signed in to my im accounts but as soon as i log in to msn through Pecan the battery starts draining.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

today i noticed something strange msn haze is out of testing & devel it is in meamo.org repo which means extras so i gave it a try but again i cant manage to change my nickname am always stuck with my soo so old nickname i used to use in the msn messenger days (b4 wlm get relseased) anyone knows how to solve this issue on haze??

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

does msn pecan even work? i tried on 3 n900 with 3G and wifi never signs in.....might explain why its not gone from extra devel/testing


i'd like to use pecan as i dont want other service except msn but it simply does not work , tried on my old n900 and my replacement and also a friends one.

if u need msn get pidgin version (haze)

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

MSN Pecan works just fine with my N900 and on my friend's N900. Over wifi and also over 3g. Try enabling the http setting in the Advanced section of msn pecan.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Well, it's hard to fix bugs when they are not reported. Please go to msn-pecan's issue tracker.

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

What is Butterfly MSN, where can I find it, does videocall work with it?
Ive installed it, but it does not appear! Should I remove the Conversation plugin witz Application Manager first?

Re: [Maemo 5] MSN, pecan, butterfly, haze....
 

Works for me, although I'm no longer now logging into MSN as a matter of course, instead focussing more on gtalk /skype / facebook (in that order). There's a limit.!

If you can't connect via 3G it's more likely to be a carrier/tariff issue. Some providers prevent use of voip/IM on certain tariffs. Other's have this in T&C but don't enforce.

I've stayed with 3Uk, one of the big reasons being that ever since they launched their first decent data tariff (xseries) about 3 years ago, there's been no blocking/restrictions & a decent (for 5 UKP pcm) 1Gb fair use policy (rumour is hard cap is at 2Gb)