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- Portrait mode accross the UI. ((A MUST))

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Yeah that's a must. All those apps that run in landscape mode will magically work in portrait mode. :D

I'm calling shenanigans on the "universal portrait mode" requests--much like the endless yammering about "capacitive", it's a hollow criterion for merit based on iWannabe rather than an actual need.

Sure it's useful for one-handed txting, and a handful of apps, but it's hardly a universal necessity. A lot of the Maemo 5 apps are best used with keyboard opened, anyway.

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why come up with this point when it's been confirmed officially that universal portrait support across the whole OS will not happen until Maemo 6?

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Just to answer the factual parts. Qt 4.0 came out in 2005, 4.2 in 2006. Maemo does not include KDE so stability comparisons based on it are dubious at best.

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Qt != KDE :)
Just forget about KDE and look at Qt with new eyes and without prejudice. Nokia did (IMHO) a good thing liberating Qt a bit from the K grip by buying Trolltech. It's a fresh start and who cares if KDE is using Qt? :)

OTOH, Qt is stable and has been used by commercial software (Opera, Google Earth, Skype, etc) for years.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 

probably: bug fixes, bug fixes, bug fixes and uhmm oh yeah! bug fixes.

We wont get any extra's! only when we yet again buy a new phone

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You should double your expectations.

I doubt we will get even one of those.

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I dont think Nokia will be so dumb as to not to implement it on N900. It is quite aware of the popularity of the device and know that people will stop buyin if its unavailable. My guess we should hv it till march. Till tat time jus lets put all the pressure on them by spamming all nokia centers with free turn by turn navigatio questions;)

Re: Does anyone know when the next firmware (PR1.2?) is expected?
 

Its a great idea to not be prompted for an action you have already tried to execute.

for example...lets take the iphone, although I think the N900 is a better device and highly more configurable. Has anyone ever noticed that when you ask the iphone to do something there is no response back to the user unless the action failed which make the UE (User Exprience) in the GUI so much nicer and slick, not to mention faster. Where nokia falls down on the GUI side of things is that their interfaces sometime provide too much feedback.

For instance why do i need a message from the hildon desktop saying "bluetooth activated" when i have just selected to turn the thing on. wouldn't it be obvious that it is activated if i just asked the system to turn it on. In the event of the system returning any sort of message back to the user, it should be an error message ...i.e "bluetooth activation unsuccessful" or something like that. My point being many more notification messages generated by the UI should only be there to display error messages to inform the user that the required action had failed. If no message was displayed when the user asked the system to do something then take it for granted that the task was executed successfully.

If many users disagree with this suggestion then as an alternative maybe have a confirmation one can switch on and off i.e "supress system notification messages"

Cheers

Thoughts and comments on a postcard please

Re: Does anyone know when the next firmware (PR1.2?) is expected?
 

That Tuesday is this Tuesday :)

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Well, I think I'll buy a N900 once it ships Qt :-) , next Tuesday then ?

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Qt is there by default(4.5) since day one ;)

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Which also means you're late.

Who came up with Tuesday? It should be Wednesday.

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My guess is mid to end of next month will be PR1.2 release date.

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since we are just calling the days.
I say make it Sunday, I have nothing to do than play with my phone(once I get it back from Nokia Care) so it will be better.:p

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My grandfather has a nice word about it:
"In March, on Wednesday!"

Whatever, I hope it will came soon.
Regards.

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 

Well just hope for:

Flash 10
Real navigation
OVI Store improvements
Bug fixes
Long press keys
And overall improvements and more settings

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im waiting for only portraite mode...

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i don't think portrait mode would be possible on N900 without reconstruction the layout of the OS. there is a rotate.py script but the layout wasn't fitting the screen. I think QT4.6 might fix this problem if Nokia build OS function in QT4.6 instead. So auto rotation and scrolling would be more fluid.

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at least this is good if add

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I hope they remove multitasking completely, so we can get a more fluid experience, like the iPhone ;)

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And also the physical keyboard... so we can get a much thinner device just like the iPhone. This is what I hope for next FW.

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well its a fact n900 will get an update because of new QT.

now gonna say something silly like you did dave999 lol

unless nokia say no more up dates then i will believe and not because you say so. . .

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At least OVI Maps with Navi option and Flash 10 can be good for a next update.

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I think a lot of BUGS wil be fixed, no new features, a few days after the 1.2 release all the same ppl in here will nag and wait for 1.3 or whatever and the meego nogo speculations will continue...

But then again I never win i lotto :)

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Yeah, me too...

I m waiting to have the below ones in my N900...

Portrait mode
OVI map route-by-route navigation
Most important one, USSD bug fix

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If the next firmware doesn't introduce (at least 75% of) :
- MMS
- Ovi + Step by step nav.
- Front camera videocalls
- Night mode for video and image camera mode
- Fixes for wifi.

I'm ebaying my n900, going back to N95, and starting to look for a nice HTC with android, which has all those stuff.

So I won't be able to type ifconfig, top, and schedule tasks with crontab.
So what?

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There will be no more 'more' applications menu in application

Look comment in bugs.maemo.org :)

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seriously though, what about some kind of option to tell background tasks to 'pause'. Sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes, you want to keep some things open, but you also want something else which you are concentrating on to work a bit faster, without being willing to close those other things right now.. So, keeping backround windows in a state of suspended animation would be a good idea. then when you are ready to come back you could wake them up, perhaps through an option on the power button?

If this is an old idea I'll sod off, but if it's a new one I'll take it to brainstorming.....

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Better the carrying around 2 phones.
One for fun and show (n900).

And one for practical needs : Waze (GPS with realtime traffic calculations, free) and Camera that works at night.

And where I live, i'll get 90% price on it, as its being sold here at highly over priced prices, 900$.

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Whilst most people are posting wishlists I think I'll post a don't wish list:

• MMS - firstly functionality exists from community, secondly do people really use MMS? I used it once about 5 years ago and never tried again
• Front Camera videocalls - meh. Why do I want to have the person I'm talking to see a grainy picture of me? Only time I'd want this would be when I'm sitting at home, and my laptop has a far better camera than any front facing camera on any phone
• Night mode on camera - All the night modes I've used just produce terrible grainy photos or video that I normally just delete.
• Java runtime - flash is enough of a performance impact I wouldn't want to encourage people to write java apps ;)
• Other Stuff I don't give a crap about

these are of course my opinion but feel free to flame me.

Things I'd wouldn't mind seeing:

• Portrait keyboard
• Flash 10 (only if it supports hardware decoding)
• a better ovi maps (faster start up and saving placemarks would be fine)
• improved video capture (sometimes not very smooth)
• MFE for google support (though nuevasync works well)

Things that I want:

• Official QT 4.6 support (granted)
• performance improvements (fingers crossed)
• battery life improvements (same as above)
• less Zealots and FUD spreaders on t.m.o (in my dreams)

Re: Speculation about the next firmware (PR1.2?) and its release date
 

All I want is QT 4.6 and Turn by Turn navigation. :)
Then I would be even more happy with my N900.

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I have the same opinion, all the rest I could wait for being implemented/corrected in future releases... Just one thing that must be fixed ASAP is paid content on Ovi Store, and I suspect PR1.1.1 wasn't able to fix apt to allow a reliable anti-piracy protection...

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it was HOPEFULLY meant to b released the last week of feb... or the first wednesday in march..........
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this year or next year??

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I second this! These are the only really important upgrades, everything else will be just either bug fixes or eye candy.

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Maybe abit OT, but did anyone notice pictures improved with the last update ? No more grain :p

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The only crucially important update i want in the next firmware is a fix for incoming calls failing while 2G/2.5G packet data is connected.

Vote for this fix here if you want it too:
GPRS/EDGE data connection prohibits incoming voice calls

currently, despite the network fully supporting the proper signaling (which suspends packet data for incoming calls on N95, N82, N97, and 5800xm when on 2G/2.5G), the N900 doesn't suspend or drop the data connection for incoming calls - they always go straight to voicemail.

it's the #1 most critical bug for me, since i'm always on 2.5G network and don't want to miss incoming calls, i can never allow my N900 to connect automatically to packet data; and connecting manually is done knowing that while i'm connected if my wife calls she'll get pissed that her calls go persistently straight to voicemail.

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No sign of the fabled upgade. wonder if we'll get it this week.

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Turn by turn navigation should really be just a matter of time. In last interviews on All About Symbian, the clearly said Maemo/Meego will focus on maps and augmented reality. These will be some of the most important features.
They also said in some other interviews that every Qt realese of Nokis Maps will be the same for Symbian and Maemo/Meego.
Of course, it's hard to say when all this is going to happen, but I suspect that March could be an interesting month for us.

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the only real thing i'm looking forward in march is the clock going forward 1 hour!!! SUMMER TIME BABY! :cool::D