Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Intel chips really are a lot more powerfull than ARM currently.
Different markets: Intel and ARM.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

I see to hardware manofacturers that need to sell devices.

Fortunately we have the great community behind Maemo, but I don't see any roadmap from Nokia to the N900.

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So the "Flagship" device I shelled out for not even a month ago and that was released only 2-3 months ago ALREADY has an OS that is unlikely to ever be updated again?

I knew I was taking a risk in buying an early adopters piece of hardware / OS but this is ridiculous.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

and more power hungry.

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I notice the device on the front page of MeeGo.com is an n900... This must say something no?

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

That's fantastic news! :-)

Still digesting, however an obvious question is what's going to happen packaging-wise (what with Maemo being based on Debian and Moblin on Fedora).

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First Meego prototype doesn't have industrial design yet?

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For <deity>'s sake, can you make a "Will N900 get MeeGo?" thread so this can be used to discuss the new platform and implications to Maemo, Moblin and mobile open source in general?

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No, on a performance-per-watt scale, definitely not.
ARM has shown omap4 prototypes, multicore and clocked above 1ghz, that can happily run with less than a watt an still beat the living crap out of any atom processor.

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I wanted Nokia to build and concentrate on one project, Maemo. Following the conference on engadget, what this news seems to confirm for me is that Nokia will continue to get behind Symbian as the flagship phone OS, MeeGo smacks of a side project. I really can't see anything good coming out of this from a Nokia phone user's point of view, but I'll be happy to eat a large serving of crow in a few months time :rolleyes:

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Sounds all good to me :) Using both Maemo + Moblin at the moment and like both.

Nokia press release http://www.nokia.com/press/press-rel...newsid=1384419

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Dunno if this has been posted but: http://events.nokia.com/mwc/home.htm has a live stream of the event

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I doubt this will be on the N900 but I'll buy the next MeeGo device. This is going to be awesome.

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well..I am very much puzzled as how this will do good to the N900 and all the development going on for Maemo? What will happen to developers who are on the verge of starting development for Maemo or who have already started? Nokia just left n900 users in the middle of the sea cause no developer will want to develop any applications for Maemo now

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Maybe N900 will get an upgrade? Hmm.

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"Linux Foundation hosted project"
Nice...

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I much prefer a partnership with Intel to better develop Maemo than be underfunded under Nokia. If Linux is the choice for your Mobile what bad can come if two giants develop for it?

Just ask IBM, Google(even with forking), Oracle what do they think about Linux.

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Everyone on this thread is confident that N900 will get an upgrade to Meego. But the chances are very slim according to me. Even if it does manage to get it, people will again have to create new apps for it cause I dont think maemo5 apps will be compatible with Meego

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Lot of assumptions there. I'll wait for something official thanks.

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the graph for the platform holds a entry for gtk and clutter next to qt, so it should work, if nokia maintains the same UI.

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That's most of the problem. Nokia hasn't been very clear with announcements since the launch of N900.

There are a lot of doubts in the future of N900, call it Maemo 6 or Meego.

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hope MeeGo will promote open source ARM driver as that on x86 platform

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Well that may be but that doesn't make anyones assumptions more relevant.

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"Terrific race the Romans ... terrific."

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These guys have to look at the broader picture, and if they saw pouring lots of resources into two future competing platforms as wasteful, and a win-win in terms of joining forces, then it makes sense to join forces.

Nokia has already started making netbooks, and I guess they see the overall potential here, not just making phones or even MIDs.

If, in the overall scheme of things this would lead to abandoning the N900, or even if it would mean having to start from scratch on software (well Qt will be a bridge) so be it. It's all detail in a larger strategic game of competing and survival.

So it may be a temporary loss, certainly for those who bought the N900 (that is assuming you won't be able to run MeeGo/maemo6 on it), but overall from Nokia's p-o-w it's worth it and it has the potential for real gain in terms of scale and scope, covering so many segments.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

anyone wanna buy my gently used obsolete n900??
...j/k

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For me it would be a BIG loss (six hundred bucks) even if it is good for the future of Open Source.

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meego.com has an N900 (or what appears to be an N900, anyway) front and centre on the page.

Doesn't really mean anything... just sayin', s'all.

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there is simple formula for that.

Amount of Symbian cellphones sold per year - Amount of Maemo devices sold per year = Gap

I think that the gap is huge. (no proper data for better source etc)
so even if nokia would piss off everyone who ever bought n900, there are huge masses of people who just comment "what is n900" and thats it.

it isn't charity even if it is Open Source... and I am ready to lick my wounds and wait for better future. It seems that future is much brighter with meego than plain maemo....

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since maemo5 will get qt with the next update, it will be very easy to port (if necessary at all) programs between maemo5 and maemo6/meego.
that meegoo supports also x86 does not mean, that arm isn't any longer used... meego supports both!
as I said in another thread, we will see smartphones, mids and netbooks with maemo/meego.

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I appreciate that. What I was trying to convey was my beliefs about how Nokia management may be thinking. So they may upset a lot of N900 buyers (this assumes of course that you get no support, but Nokia may still keep on supporting Maemo5 for a while), but in the overall scheme of things, I believe they are comparing that with the potential residing in this new constellation. And in that perspective the N900 customers are likely to be a drop in the ocean. They may still decide to support it, or they may have never intended to support it, either way they must be looking at the large picture and for ways to better meet the competition.

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Don't mean to offend anyone, but Nokia should drag fremantle to the back of the shed now and put it out of its misery while in the early stages. Can't stand to look at a semi-updated platform again from Nokia. Kill it but let us N900 users upgrade to meego/m6

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My thoughts, exactly!

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people are putting way too much optimism in Nokia's favour here, and I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed.

as has already been mentioned, FoneArena asked quite a clear question "if Nokia N900 will get MeeGo" and were given the response "Developers can transition easily..". Now, admittedly that is a tweet, but it doesn't bode well. It smacks of a politician dodging pertinent questions. Surely they should be able to give us a simple yes or no answer. Just the fact that they are being ambiguous is cause for concern, in my opinion.

someone here mentioned that the N900 is featured on the homepage of MeeGo.com. This seems to be just for illustrative purposes, and I would advise anyone who takes this seriously, you need a reality check. It's a marketing picture, nothing more. If the N900 were going to be supported, there would be some definitive declaration saying so.

I'm in two minds as to whether to ditch the N900 and go back to Android.

as you can see here i have been a long time Nokia user, however the recent behaviour from Nokia has made me reconsider ever buying another handset of theirs again.

I accepted that the N900 was going to be a bleeding edge device, but I am disappointed at the very real prospect of there being no future software support for this device.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Youtube video with Ari Jaaksi, Quim and some Intel dudes talking about Meego.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMLtd...ayer_embedded#

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we need an official announcement. period.

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While I know this is probably for the best for everyone and that this will work out well in a few months down the line... I have to wonder why people I don't know and haven't met before are telling me things about "how it's going to be" without even talking to us or our community before making such sweeping decisions such as a switch to RPM and probably countless other things.

I'm not so sure I like that.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

I clearly seems they don't :(

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The interesting question is how sincere will Intel+Nokia will be with regard to supporting the ARM branch of MeeGo. Remember, for Intel, this is win-anyway scenario. If MeeGo works out, great. If MeeGo is a flop, if it spawns/leaves Windows capable devices (as opposed to letting Android/iPhoneOS devices based on high-end ARMs spread to tablet/netbook land), it's still a net win for them in the end.

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 

Oh... this is a very good thing. Glad I waited.