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theonelaw 2010-10-26 07:48

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onion (Post 851485)
Not so crazy, even the Symbian forum talks about it.
http://developer.symbian.org/forum/s...ead.php?t=5008

Second the motion,...

It might be a useful port
Not for me, but I can imagine a number of things it may be useful for anyway.

Architengi 2010-11-03 17:54

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onion (Post 851485)
even the Symbian forum talks about it.
http://developer.symbian.org/forum/s...ead.php?t=5008

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez

I do find myself extremely useful to be able to boot Symbian on the N900.

We are here because we love to do all kind of nerd thing with our N900, such as booting Ubuntu, Fedora, Meego, NeoPwn, Nitdroid,....

Why not Symbian?

Now, trying to return to the subject... has anyone tried to compile latest Symbian from sources?

Good question - can be Symbian^3 compiled from the repositories?

Now we know 3 things:
1. Symbian^4 will not exist as a separate version because all the GUI / UX changes will be part of an upgrade to Symbian^3
2. Symbian^3 will be native Qt and will not have other new UI - this means it will be a good platform for developers to test their Qt applications
3. Europe invests $33 Millions in Symbian, its smartphone OS of choice:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/...oice/?news=123

This means Symbian^3 will be a powerful version / BASE version - with many upgrades coming - but with no segmentation because Symbian^4 which broke the compatibility is off - which is GOOD.

Did anybody try to compile Symbian^3 on N900?

Thank you,
Architengi

mattbutsko 2010-11-17 23:51

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
S3 is made to run on nHD (640x360 I think) screens, the N900's screen is 800x480. There wouldn't be a good-looking way to fabricate that.

Would love an S3 port none the less.

agdroubi 2010-11-20 09:14

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Is there anyone with interest to complete this porting??
I really hope.

BLC 2010-11-21 09:49

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HangLoose (Post 848356)
You are just saying this cos you are quite young around here.... :P

I feel bad for those who joined on the 770 times...

Thanks... :-P

windows7 2010-11-21 13:12

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
i would like to be able to run some of the symbian apps available.

there are many decent apps out there which will never be ported to the n900.

nokia should help build an emulator for maemo.

blackskyel 2011-01-05 18:44

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemo5 (Post 839341)
symbian (s60v5/^3/^4) didn't support screen res more than
640x360

Hello,
The phone Samsung i8910 is a device based on TI OMAP 3430. It runs Symbian S60v5. It is the same hardware as N900 except for the keyboard. The screen resolution is also WVGA.

Would it be feasible to u-boot a firmware from that phone from the microSD card?

I migrated from Symbian to Maemo but I would like to dual boot.
Thanks in advance for your time.

Best regards,

mattbutsko 2011-01-05 22:23

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

The screen resolution is also WVGA.
I could be wrong, but I'm 99% sure the i8910's resolution is 640x360. I memorized it's specs a while back because I always wanted one back then, for the camera, display, and speed. It's one of the best S1 devices.

Edit:
Type AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 360 x 640 pixels, 3.7 inches

That's from GSMArena. Thing is, the i8910's display is 16:9, so WVGA isn't feasible for that device.

HtheB 2011-01-06 00:40

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackskyel (Post 912419)
Hello,
The phone Samsung i8910 is a device based on TI OMAP 3430. It runs Symbian S60v5. It is the same hardware as N900 except for the keyboard. The screen resolution is also WVGA.

Would it be feasible to u-boot a firmware from that phone from the microSD card?

I migrated from Symbian to Maemo but I would like to dual boot.
Thanks in advance for your time.

Best regards,

S60v5 isn't open source.

Symbian (formerly known as Symbian^3) is open source. (The OS that is on the N8)

AgentZ 2011-01-06 00:54

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elie-7 (Post 840017)
but it feels good to have the fastest twin turbo car on the roads.
i know nokia did cut our road, but the maemo5 tweakers here got us the best road we can ever have.
yes bringing symbian to the n900 is what needed to prove that its the best mate.

Twin 3071's now we are talking!!!

dashti 2011-01-06 02:27

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
it's will be cool
maemo + Android + Symbian

3 phone in 1 phone :O

JamesBond@ge 2011-01-06 20:37

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
If you guys love Symbian so much, can I refer you to my thread..........

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67788

rNeilC 2011-01-06 21:02

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
aha! very tricky james =D

stickymick 2011-01-06 21:27

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Last I heard was that Nokia were taking back control of Symbian sometime early this year.

http://www.whatmobile.net/2010/11/no...ian-from-2011/

Joseph9560 2011-01-07 05:30

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
I guess it still remains open sourced, one can request for the code even after nokia took the development in house. BTW for resolution issue, can't the screen be stretched as in palm os emulator?

mattbutsko 2011-01-08 01:53

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Possible, but since the screen ratios aren't the same, 5:3 (I think) and 16:9, it wouldn't look good.

Joseph9560 2011-01-09 16:48

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
seems like emulator would be better but booting from s^3 vould be easier but noone who knows how to seems to be interested.

agdroubi 2011-01-09 17:03

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
n900 has similar hardware to nokia symbian devices, so it will not be so hard to port it.

Radicalz38 2011-01-09 17:10

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
I think thinking about screen resolution should be on the later. Cause no one seems to be interested in porting this.

volt 2011-01-09 17:37

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
EasySym, running on top of Maemo. It'd allow for more software, like the Symbian Ovi Maps, so why not. Though I doubt we could get our hands on an Ovi Maps installation without a licence of some sort.

slai 2011-01-18 00:29

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
wow I would love dualbooting maemo5 and symbian^3...

shame I can barely Create New Folder in Windows and I dont have a computer, or Id try to do it myself.

badboyuk 2011-01-19 18:44

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
I would love to see an emulator or have the option of running it seperately via dual boot option. I have loads of apps, some which I still use on my old N73 such as TomTom with speed cameras, voice recorders, call/sms blockers etc.
Is anyone thinking or currently working on this idea of an emulator or dualboot option? It would be good to do so as it can cater for many apps that others have been requesting or hoping for but doubt they will ever get done.

Radicalz38 2011-01-19 19:58

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
I doubt this thread will ever come true... Well you see symbian was opened a long time ago and nobody bothered to port it on n900. Now that most of the sources and stuff were closed down(not totally) again how much chances that this would ever happen?

mattbutsko 2011-01-19 21:25

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
It won't, but that doesn't mean we can't dream.

Awwwww yeah, small text. And nobody hate cause I have a place for Symbian, Maemo's great too, but give me an N79 with AWS 3G bands and I'm jumpin ship!

Radicalz38 2011-01-19 21:42

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mattbutsko (Post 924169)
It won't, but that doesn't mean we can't dream.

Awwwww yeah, small text. And nobody hate cause I have a place for Symbian, Maemo's great too, but give me an N79 with AWS 3G bands and I'm jumpin ship!

Yeah but this ain't a dream this is reality :p

+3 for the small text :rolleyes:

bandora 2011-01-22 10:38

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
I donmt inderstand all the hate towards Symbian... (looking at the tags).. As if Symbian has hurt somebody emotionally and/or physically! Anyways, would be awesome if this becomes true!

elie-7 2011-01-30 13:34

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
lets just focus on meego 1.2 on the n900 now, no time for symbian :P

shockgiga 2011-01-30 13:49

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Symbian^4 would be more awesome for n900's boot options. with it's completely new UX and all.

efekt 2011-01-30 14:00

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shockgiga (Post 931874)
Symbian^4 would be more awesome for n900's boot options. with it's completely new UX and all.

Yea! but there won't be any Symbian^4 as Symbian^3 will just get incremental updates and upgrades, so your whole comment is void :)

shockgiga 2011-01-30 18:03

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
on the contrary. you should look deeper into your symbian news sources.
blogs only briefly said not to think of symbian^4 "anymore" coz the transition will be "seamless through updates".
symbian^4 actually does exist. it will only retain the symbian name, will be totally different (total rewrite),will not be using AVKON as its base and is more intended on nokia's Q4 handsets running dual core chips.

the updates you were referring to goes as follows:

PR2.0: February 15th (during MWC) – The 50+ Major Update pack.

PR3.0: Summer. PR 3.0 is when Symbian UI completely changes to what was expected to be Symbian^4. This time last year it appeared that Symbian^3 handsets would not be able to update to Symbian^4 but what with the changes, Symbian^3 handset users are now going to receive ALL updates as and when they’re ready.

Quote:

Originally Posted by efekt (Post 931879)
Yea! but there won't be any Symbian^4 as Symbian^3 will just get incremental updates and upgrades, so your whole comment is void :)


shockgiga 2011-01-30 18:10

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by efekt (Post 931879)
Yea! but there won't be any Symbian^4 as Symbian^3 will just get incremental updates and upgrades, so your whole comment is void :)

here are some bits of info:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...k_video_de.php
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...Proposal_s.php
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...ase_plans-.php

bchliu 2011-04-02 05:57

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Nokia has now published Symbian Source code:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/..._source_co.php

Wonder if anyone is up to the challenge of converting this over to N900? :)

elie-7 2011-04-02 06:55

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
well that looks like something.....

gorgezilla 2011-04-02 07:19

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
IMHO, dual boot ( Maemo and Symbian) would be great, just for testing and fun, showing the N900's capabilities.

elie-7 2011-04-02 08:47

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
how about just to piss of nokia.....

HtheB 2011-04-02 11:31

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
N900 Boot list:

* Maemo
* NITDroid
* MeeGo
* Ubuntu
* Symbian

epic win!!!!1!11!one!!

lolloo 2011-04-02 11:33

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
wow gr8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now we can make a nuclear factory.

abill_uk 2011-04-02 11:37

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bchliu (Post 980217)
Nokia has now published Symbian Source code:

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/..._source_co.php

Wonder if anyone is up to the challenge of converting this over to N900? :)

Not quite true as they will only release to certain conditions being met,

"This registration process for the Symbian source code delivery service is intended for Nokia's partners and collaborators who are already working together with us to develop the Symbian platform. We will use the company details that you provide in your registration to identify whether you are working for one of our partners or collaborators."

It will be given out somewhere i hope and if anyone knows of a direct download please post it on this forum as i am sure many will want it including me.

izrzdor 2011-04-02 11:38

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 980306)
N900 Boot list:

* Maemo
* NITDroid
* MeeGo
* Ubuntu
* Symbian

epic win!!!!1!11!one!!

Don't forget about Mer OS

lolloo 2011-04-02 11:39

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 
duel boot me!!


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