maemo.org - Talk

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)
-   Games (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=12)
-   -   PSX4All Maemo Edition (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=47904)

lucas777 2010-03-21 12:45

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 575752)
0.3.0-1m3 defaults to MyDocs directory.

Thanks yeah i have located my docs folder, only prob im having in my game is mem card error before the game loads, which i think your working on so il wait till then, im pretty sure its the game though im gonna try get some other games later and test them.

Just a question though.. Even with the current N900 hardware specs, and the specific CPU it uses, is it possible to get PSX Emulation running decent that its really playable? Is the hardware the issue or is it the coding or whatever? Sorry for the ignorance but im new to this stuff. Also is it the same with the N64 emulator?

bartekxyz 2010-03-21 12:50

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Is it possible to incorporate OpenGL plug-is? Like In ePSXe on PC? I know emulation depends mostly on CPU but hey, drawing left to GPU is always a relief to processor

smoku 2010-03-21 12:59

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
N900 does not support OpenGL.

smoku 2010-03-21 13:00

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
mem card error is also fixed in 0.3.0-1m4

lucas777 2010-03-21 13:04

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
ty ty ty smoku testing now hope this works, where is your donate button im gonna send you some cash next week so long as you keep this going and get it running at its best :)

F2thaK 2010-03-21 13:05

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
hmmmmm.. some games ask for memory card and exit.. please help smoku

lucas777 2010-03-21 13:07

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
nope smoku still getting the mem card error after unstalling the other version and updating to 0.3.0 1

HtheB 2010-03-21 13:11

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
:( Croc: Legend of the Gobbos - crashes when it enters the titlescreen :(

(also with the newest version)

lucas777 2010-03-21 13:14

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Also just downloaded crash bandicoot warped and still get mem card error

Jack6428 2010-03-21 13:14

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Anyone can try the Crash Bandicoot games please ?

bartekxyz 2010-03-21 13:15

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 575775)
N900 does not support OpenGL.

Wait.... what?? So why does it have PowerVR SGX? Just for looking nice on tech specs?

smoku 2010-03-21 13:16

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 575780)
some games ask for memory card and exit..

Update to 0.3.0-1m4

Sorry for that - one revert to far :/

xavar 2010-03-21 13:20

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartekxyz (Post 575792)
Wait.... what?? So why does it have PowerVR SGX? Just for looking nice on tech specs?

if I remember correctly OpenGL will be supported in PR 1.2 update,I am right? :>

nax3000 2010-03-21 13:24

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 575793)
Update to 0.3.0-1m4

Sorry for that - one revert to far :/

Some observations about this emu:
1. Way better than PCSX. Even if the GUI is lacking its still better to have the games actually work.
2. when I try loading gran turismo which is a .img file the emu freezes.
3. final fantasy ix seems to work great but when I click new game it freezes.

Over all IMO you should put your efforts into psx4all because it runs much better :)
________
Atx Transmission

lucas777 2010-03-21 13:25

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
lol smoku, Ok the mem card error has gone but now i get a black screen saying loading bios and it just sits there tried about 10 times now... Either that or the whole thing crashes back to the desktop..

F2thaK 2010-03-21 13:26

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
SMOKU,

i updated to 0.3.0 1 and i still get this error when i run gran turismo

missing SCPH1001.BIN2.MCR

running with BIOS, files in /usr/games/

THANKS

lucas777 2010-03-21 13:33

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
OKAY I GOT IT WORKING. I downloaded 10 bios files diffrent ones, copied them all to the my docs folder as i didnt know which one would work, loaded psx4all up, instaed for clicking load without bios i clicked the other one and walla works sick getting 32fps runs perfect but the sound its stuttery abit

lucas777 2010-03-21 13:35

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
http://www.emuasylum.com/emuextra/Pl...os%20Files.zip you need this download it and copy all the bios files into mydocs folder

Heman1310 2010-03-21 13:35

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Smoku is there a settings.ini file somewhere? Because turning sound off doesn't work.

lucas777 2010-03-21 13:39

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Was just about to say that sound wont turn off desite telling it to turn off..

F2thaK 2010-03-21 13:44

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
just crashes on me when it goes to load bios... :(

yes i have bios files in usr/games/

lucas777 2010-03-21 13:54

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
What are u running the games with no bios or with bios's? have you got the correct bios what i posted? Crash bandicoot warped just crashes after the sony start video loads ie the bios it just crashes with that game back to desktop. Smoko can u tell me what causes this just a bad game for the emu or ?? ive got wwf warzone going but once in game like i said the camera seems to just wander off away from teh game not sure how to fix that one

bartekxyz 2010-03-21 14:04

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Do you know that with pentium 233mhz,256MB of ram and software video renderer you can get from 60% to 100% emulation speed? 233mhz... Old pentium architecture... Able to run ePSXe with decent speed... Think about it

zehjotkah 2010-03-21 14:23

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartekxyz (Post 575831)
Do you know that with pentium 233mhz,256MB of ram and software video renderer you can get from 60% to 100% emulation speed? 233mhz... Old pentium architecture... Able to run ePSXe with decent speed... Think about it

sure, then go and port ePSXe so we all can profit from your wisdom!

mthmob 2010-03-21 14:27

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
seems like the keymapping you use, are also working shortcuts for settings like frameskipping, and cpu cycle.

Anyways :) works great, got final fantasy VII running at 8.5 fps :)

zehjotkah 2010-03-21 14:28

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Rayman stays at the UbiSoft screen..

bartekxyz 2010-03-21 14:35

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 575844)
sure, then go and port ePSXe so we all can profit from your wisdom!

Get a grip on yourself. I'm just wondering how totally low end pc can handle psx emulation so good.

And it wasn't message to Smoku "port another emulator". ePSXe would run on N900 as slow as two other emus.

zehjotkah 2010-03-21 14:37

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartekxyz (Post 575858)
Get a grip on yourself. I'm just wondering how totally low end pc can handle psx emulation so good.

because it's heavily optimised for them. wait a month and we will have perfect PSX emulation, too.
But discouraging ("think about it") the developer is not the right way, to speed up development.

Jack6428 2010-03-21 14:40

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartekxyz (Post 575858)
Get a grip on yourself. I'm just wondering how totally low end pc can handle psx emulation so good.

And it wasn't message to Smoku "port another emulator". ePSXe would run on N900 as slow as two other emus.

Maybe the PII can, but look at what quality though = crap. The N900 can do much more, it's just about optimizing the software to make full use of the hardware.

bartekxyz 2010-03-21 14:44

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 575861)
because it's heavily optimised for them. wait a month and we will have perfect PSX emulation, too.
But discouraging ("think about it") the developer is not the right way, to speed up development.

It might have looked like rant about lacking skills of Smoku(Imo he is VERY skilled coder) but it wasn't. Even devices with snapdragon @ 1ghz have problems with full speed emulation of psx and it's just pure curiosity how old pentium 233mhz can do better than all that cortexes and snapdragons

scorpio16v 2010-03-21 14:50

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
btw : the included patch for Oddworld Abe's Oddysee works.
The graphic glitches are gone. :) ~ 30 fps

Ralley Cross 2 ~ 22 fps

Silent Hill ~21 fps with graphic glitches around the sprite and bad sound in cutscenes, but playable.

Only the damn self changing button mapping is a spoilsport. :mad:

zehjotkah 2010-03-21 14:54

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartekxyz (Post 575871)
It might have looked like rant about lacking skills of Smoku(Imo he is VERY skilled coder) but it wasn't. Even devices with snapdragon @ 1ghz have problems with full speed emulation of psx and it's just pure curiosity how old pentium 233mhz can do better than all that cortexes and snapdragons

ah okay, then I misunderstood you... I'm sorry!

javispedro 2010-03-21 14:59

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xavar (Post 575798)
if I remember correctly OpenGL will be supported in PR 1.2 update,I am right? :>

OpenGL ES 1.1 (which is in fact already supported, only that some tests didn't pass with the older driver AFAIU) (and also which is for sure not the same OpenGL version as whatever the desktop version of PCSX uses)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bartekxyz (Post 575871)
it's just pure curiosity how old pentium 233mhz can do better than all that cortexes and snapdragons

Well, you know, Mhz is not everything.

bartekxyz 2010-03-21 15:13

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 575886)
Well, you know, Mhz is not everything.

Of course Mhz is not everything but in that case(Cortex VS P II) you missed the point with this statement. I don't believe that totally old pentium II architecture CPU has so much more IPS/hz than most modern ARM CPU's. According to wikipedia pentium pro cpu execues 2.705 IPS/Hz so @ 233 Mhz it has 630 MIPS. Cortex executes 2 IPS/Hz so @ 600 Mhz it's about 1200 MIPS... And we are talking only about raw power of cpu.

@zehjotkah

Hey, no problem:)

zarkokn 2010-03-21 15:16

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
tekken3 crash emulator...

Bundyo 2010-03-21 15:29

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
I saw that Cpasjuste has done a libsdl1.3 port for Pandora which should accelerate the X11 driver through gles textures, maybe that will give better results (if ported successfully)?

javispedro 2010-03-21 15:31

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartekxyz (Post 575896)
I don't believe that totally old pentium II architecture CPU has so much more IPS/hz than most modern ARM CPU's.

So what? MIPS is not everything either, you know. (For a start you're comparing a RISC processor with a CISC -- at least on the frontend -- one).

"IPS/Hz" is quite a weird way to say IPC, btw.

javispedro 2010-03-21 15:35

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 575914)
I saw that Cpasjuste has done a libsdl1.3 port for Pandora which should accelerate the X11 driver through gles textures, maybe that will give better results (if ported successfully)?

Not really accelerate, but more like slow it down :) Pumping pixels to the LCD is done much, much faster is the SGX is not in between.
(BTW interesting to know cpasjuste did the sdl 1.3 pandora video driver).

bartekxyz 2010-03-21 15:39

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 575917)
"IPS/Hz" is quite a weird way to say IPC, btw.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ips%2Fhz

I don't see anything wierd about it. And CISC is even more complex and demanding(thus slower) than RISC so once again - missed statement imo

javispedro 2010-03-21 15:50

Re: PSX4All Maemo Edition
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bartekxyz (Post 575923)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ips%2Fhz

I don't see anything wierd about it. And CISC is even more complex and demanding(thus slower) than RISC so once again - missed statement imo

" Results 1 - 10 of about 465 for "IPS/Hz"".
Virtually only Wikipedia uses it, and you're saying it's not "weird"? (While the much more common IPC is in the billions of results even if you combine it with less common keywords like CPU or processor).

And what CISC means for you is that single instructions are more complex, thus given same MIPS a CISC processor will perform better (ignoring a bunch of other factors like compiler effectiveness at using those, etc.).

If you want to keep this ongoing PM me.


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:42.

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8