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Jaffa 2010-04-11 18:25

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 604519)
IIUC Maemo Community dropped support for PR1.1.x devices as of March 24 2010.

No, the staff in charge of the auto-builder saw that PR1.2 SDK had been released, discussed it with the community developers and - since developers have been asking for pre-release SDKs for years, and wanted to use PR1.2 features - upgraded the autobuilder.

Quote:

You need to update your device to PR1.2 if you want to install new Extras applications. (From "fremantle-1.2" repository.)
Well, that's a bit unclear. Extras is unaffected - there is a fremantle and a fremantle-1.2 branch. So, any application in Extras is unaffected, however it won't be further updated (at the moment).

However, Extras-devel is now being seeded from apps being compiled against the PR1.2 SDK. Given that the gap between PR1.2 SDK and PR1.2 being released is increasing - and this is a problem we'll face in future (and have faced before) - it's worth trying to improve the situation:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:PR1.2_autobuilder

Quote:

P.S. Yes. I do know that PR1.2 is not released yet to the people. Curious isn't it? ;)
Curious how?

UAEx 2010-04-13 17:19

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
iam trying to install bluemaemo but i cant >,<

kyros 2010-04-15 08:11

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
So this means that I cannot:
- update (currently 8 of) my application
- install a lot of interesting applications
only because the devs are publishing in a future app status.
and nobody can tell how long we have to remain in this deep-freeze!
can't you hear the other dev groups laughing about this invalidism for which obviousely nobody feels responsible.

hey come on:
why isn't it possible to put the future state apps into a seperate repository (which we can disable meanwhile) or at least offer second versions of the apps which can be installed and used for updates in the current firmware?

Flandry 2010-04-15 12:28

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Basically, the answer is "no".

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1240

kyros 2010-04-16 00:03

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
OK - this seems to be quick and professional solution, isn't it?
Lets all meanwhile put the N900 beside and go for an iBone?

They cannot multitask properly but have a crazy lot of apps.
We can multitask brilliantly but have bravely disabled the few new apps to apply.
LOL

kyros 2010-04-16 22:34

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Dear Devs,
Please, please, please, do not publish updated app versions now!


If you do, your apps are de facto dead for the next weeks/months, because:
  • Nobody can install your apps since the new firmware and the linked packages are not available.
  • Nobody can update any of your new software apps.
  • Nobody can reinstall your software apps after a phone reset.
  • Your software will cause error messages and worries in the user's device and this is no good PR anyway.
So please do a favor to the whole community and wait until this problem disappears somehow...
This is my personal opinion.

Thanx, Kyros

smoku 2010-04-16 22:37

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Or you may DO update the apps to encourage sooner resolution.

javispedro 2010-04-16 22:41

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kyros (Post 614186)
Dear Devs,
Please, please, please, do not publish updated app versions now!

Dear Users, please, please, please, do not abuse extras-devel!

As soon as you disable extras-devel you'll find a nice set of well-tested applications that will for sure install in your pre-1.2 device.

Not that it matters that much now that the problem is fixed for non-Qt apps at least.

kyros 2010-04-17 00:58

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 614194)
As soon as you disable extras-devel you'll find a nice set of well-tested applications that will for sure install in your pre-1.2 device.

At least there is one (your) hint which is trying to help.

Thanx, Kyros

PS: Not every reply pointing out an unsustainable situation is an abuse... :o

lemmyslender 2010-04-17 01:38

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by javispedro (Post 614194)
Dear Users, please, please, please, do not abuse extras-devel!

As soon as you disable extras-devel you'll find a nice set of well-tested applications that will for sure install in your pre-1.2 device.

Not that it matters that much now that the problem is fixed for non-Qt apps at least.

And I lose half the apps I've come to use to make up for Nokias shortcomings. At least the list of un-installable apps is shorter now, 1 of which is not QT related.

Shame it took over three weeks to resolve. Too bad someone from Nokia didn't give XFade a heads up and warn him it was going to be a while until PR1.2 was going to be released :( Perhhaps he would have postponed the upgrade to the autobuilder and we could have avoided a lot of problems.

bunanson 2010-04-17 02:35

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Problem apparantly solved. I just updated all apps without a problem, click on app manager menu to use the update all function to save steps to wait for catalogue refresh after each single update.

bun

rawutt 2010-04-17 04:36

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
2 Attachment(s)
surprisingly when i checked for updates it shown most of app with same version to update..totally amazed..n i was able to update tuner this time..
am i missing something !!!

smoku 2010-04-17 06:04

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Most of the apps was rebuilt with fixed dependencies. That's why you see updates with the same version.

rawutt 2010-04-17 06:06

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
cheers smoku..

kyros 2010-04-17 09:59

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Good to see that something good happened in the background.

Jezz 2010-04-17 16:17

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Just had about 10 updates listed too :)

javispedro 2010-04-17 16:25

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
As we said, ideally most non-Qt apps should be fixed. Save for Mapper (but that one will be fixed soon) and librtcom-eventlogger depending ones (this one is a bigger problem right now).

If you find another one, feel free to point that to us (note that by Qt apps I include pyside, pyqt ones)..

Icyseanfitz 2010-04-18 19:25

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
hey guys i dont know if this is the right thread to post this in but for some reason i cannot update any of my repo's i cannot update anything through app manager it start checking for apps and gets stuck half way trough the update bar right at the d in update every time its beginning to piss me off i tried changing my dns but no joy any idea's guy's?

plaban 2010-04-18 19:31

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 614396)
Most of the apps was rebuilt with fixed dependencies. That's why you see updates with the same version.

so do I need to update all the apps which has same version no ?

Icyseanfitz 2010-04-18 20:04

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
tried downloading the ps3 remote app but it wouldnt let me it told me it couldnt find the package or something to that effect

smoku 2010-04-18 22:21

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
............

Icyseanfitz 2010-04-18 23:12

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
is there something wrong with all the repos because i tried a different internet connection and it stil wouldnt update

rickrvo 2010-04-19 02:24

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
I'm getting some wierd stuff... I had 4 inupdatable apps and like a week ago suddenly there was 23 updates and I updated all of them, even those that were previously saying that there were packages missing... 2 days later again like 13 updates, only this time 4 apps failed to update and 2 of them are new apps..

stefbeer 2010-04-19 06:59

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Hey guys!

I have a question. Is there the "extras"-repo affected, too? I just have the extras-repo, no extras-testing or extras-devel. Now I am confused because I cannot install the new version of "healthcheck" and "batterygraph".
I checked for updates many times but there are no updates listed in the application manager. With healthcheck i made the fault that i removed the application. I thoungt that I would see the update when I reinstall it but now I cannot reinstall it because it's not listed in the application manager.
Is this behavior normal? If not, what can I do or try to fix it?

Many thanks in advance!

luma 2010-04-19 07:35

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Hi,

I'm using extra repository like any other user.

Here is what I have this morning (from a console apt-get update) :

Code:

W: GPG error: http://repository.maemo.org fremantle Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG E40DC434616730BD maemo.org Extras repositories (Fremantle Extras) <repositories@maemo.org>
Has the GPG key changed this week-end?

stefbeer 2010-04-19 17:45

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Hello!

@luma: I got the same error message today forenoon in the application manager log.

@all: After I went home from work today evening I got the update-notification (the blinking exclamation mark beside the clock) for "batterygraph". I installed it and checked out if I could install "healthcheck", wow it was listed again! After I installed these packages I checked out again for updates and the error message in the log of the application manager with the GPG-error was gone.
I didn't change anything but now it seems that everything is back to normal. And I am happy again. :)

Hope this helps anybody.

Greetings from Germany

ndi 2010-04-19 17:55

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
They were all rebuilt and reinstalled because (at the very least) some stuff got optified. I went from 31 MB free to 52 MB free on root and I did nothing but apply the updates. Also, I'm pretty sure some of the packages showed in red in storage usage before.

devu 2010-04-27 20:16

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Hi guys, today I completely lost access to app manager, I cant update install or even uninstall any application, Keep saying "Operation failed". What I suppose to do?

smoku 2010-04-27 21:36

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 618073)
They were all rebuilt and reinstalled because (at the very least) some stuff got optified.

IIRC cauldron-builder is optifying packages by default now, so simple rebuild is enough :)

javispedro 2010-04-27 21:36

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
You can get a more detailed log in the application manager menu, might be more useful.

Jaffa 2010-04-27 21:54

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 630582)
IIRC cauldron-builder is optifying packages by default now, so simple rebuild is enough :)

Oh. Source?

ndi 2010-04-27 21:59

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Oh, also, I have overstated my gain, apparently. After reboot, it went to 35 or so, from 51. Given size, I'm thinking the cache for apt got deleted. Still increased.

smoku 2010-04-28 06:41

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 630614)
Oh. Source?

http://www.mail-archive.com/maemo-de.../msg21664.html

javispedro 2010-04-28 16:17

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
You still need to put "auto" in debian/optify for that.

schasch 2010-04-30 06:03

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
hello,

I had the same "4.6.2~git20100224" problem...when I tried to install qtirreco....

Not possible...?????

...till I read a post in this forum that I should disable extras-devel-repo...

after disabling I could install qtirreco...

...now my BatteryGraph does not work anymore (...says someting like mixed qtlib's..blabla) but qtirreco works and could be installed...

regards
schasch

tha_untouchable 2010-05-10 00:06

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Hey guy i am new in this field and dont know how to suscribe what i want to because i am german and my english is not that perfect .... so please dont be hard on me ...

First of all i had to say that i dont have an N900 but this will chage in the next time its a long story which i wont tell there .....

i already manged to get the SDK working for getting the Emualator of maemo working its awesome i playing a bit with it but dont get managed how to install an app or the cataloge .... it tells me that the the repositories arent reachable .... but the internet is working (cause of this tutorial Thanks to venomrush ) .... can anybody tell me what i am doing wrong ? i will post even the log of ESbox i hope it can help you

Thanks to all those in this forum youre a great Community

Code:

Sample files present.
Starting DBUS system bus
Starting D-BUS session bus daemon
Starting Maemo Launcher: maemo-launcher.
Starting Sapwood image server
Starting hildon-desktop
hildon-desktop[6214]: GLIB WARNING ** GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor - remote volume monitor with dbus name org.gtk.Private.HalVolumeMonitor is not supported
hildon-status-menu[6219]: GLIB WARNING ** GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor - remote volume monitor with dbus name org.gtk.Private.HalVolumeMonitor is not supported
hildon-home[6224]: GLIB WARNING ** GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor - remote volume monitor with dbus name org.gtk.Private.HalVolumeMonitor is not supported
Starting Keyboard
hildon-home[6224]: GLIB WARNING ** default - /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/connui-cellular-operator-home-item.so: Kann die Shared-Object-Datei nicht öffnen: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
hildon-home[6224]: GLIB WARNING ** default - Could not load operator module /usr/lib/hildon-desktop/connui-cellular-operator-home-item.so.
hildon-input-method[6245]: GLIB WARNING ** GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor - remote volume monitor with dbus name org.gtk.Private.HalVolumeMonitor is not supported
Initializing trackerd...
Starting browser daemon: trackerd[6240]: GLIB DEBUG Tracker - Checking XDG_DATA_HOME is writable and exists
trackerd[6240]: GLIB MESSAGE Tracker -  XDG_DATA_HOME set to '/home/maemo/.local/share'
trackerd[6240]: GLIB DEBUG Tracker -  Path is OK
trackerd[6240]: GLIB MESSAGE Tracker - Setting IO priority
trackerd[6240]: GLIB MESSAGE Tracker - Setting up stopword list for language code:'en'
trackerd[6240]: GLIB MESSAGE Tracker - Tracker couldn't read stopword file:'/usr/share/tracker/languages/stopwords.en', Failed to open file '/usr/share/tracker/languages/stopwords.en': open() failed: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden
trackerd[6240]: GLIB MESSAGE Tracker - Setting up stemmer for language code:'en'
trackerd[6240]: GLIB MESSAGE Tracker - Registering DBus service...
  Name:'org.freedesktop.Tracker'
Starting log:
  File:'/home/maemo/.local/share/tracker/trackerd.log'
trackerd[6240]: GLIB CRITICAL ** Tracker - Could not initialize the HAL context, no error, is hald running?
hildon-input-method[6245]: GLIB MESSAGE default - ui up and running
browserd
OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 405: oil_test_check_impl(): function mas10_u8_mmx_2 in class mas10_u8_l15 failed check (8139 > 0) || (outside=0)
hildon-home[6224]: GLIB WARNING ** default - devlock_mode_get_notify. Error calling devlock_mode_get. The name com.nokia.mce was not provided by any .service files
Initializing tracker-indexer...
mafw-dbus-wrapper[6243]: GLIB WARNING ** mafw-gst-renderer - Could not initialize hal
Starting log:
  File:'/home/maemo/.local/share/tracker/tracker-indexer.log'
browser[6270]: GLIB WARNING ** GVFS-RemoteVolumeMonitor - remote volume monitor with dbus name org.gtk.Private.HalVolumeMonitor is not supported
-:3: Invalid color constant 'SelectionColor'
-:3: error: invalid string constant "SelectionColor", expected valid string constant
trackerd[6240]: GLIB WARNING ** Tracker - Could not add monitor for path:'/home/maemo/MyDocs/.camera'


poetbyday 2010-05-10 03:38

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
I can't find Mstardict, and seem to be having some problems with updating my extras devel repository. Been spending hours looking for the dictionary is it still here? :confused:

tha_untouchable 2010-05-11 12:37

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
is no body there whith an answer?

sada 2010-05-12 09:02

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
i have a problem.i disabled the extra devel repo.and try to install app from other repo but after download them in the middle of installing it errors that unable to install that app.what is the problem?

kevini1 2010-05-17 15:16

Re: can't install some apps(or update)
 
Please help me, I have no possiblity to download, upload and disinstall any apply since about 5 days, since my last download...


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