Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

N95 with 600-700 euros, 17 million sold and iphone with about 600 euros price does not agree. ;)
Nokia did release in Nokia Capital Market Days 2009 that Maemo/MeeGo will be in the 400 euros price point and above. Symbian have already partly lost it's charm and is moving to mid end so i'm happy that Maemo/MeeGo will again be real smartphone OS for Nokia. Symbian will be all about Qt in Symbian^4 so we will be getting apps both ways.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Me personally want Maemo to stay on N900 and could be improved and work much better than any other OS on mobile device. I think it has its uniqueness and style that no other system has. But MeeGo is pushing and we dont have choice but accept it. ( i guess Maemo project will stop). I think MeeGo remind me more of those Android. And its probably coming from Intel. Considering that they are working on some Android devices too if im not mistaking. And Nokia trying make it more user friendly so call. But at the end its ok for me as long as it will works smoothly and bring more options. :rolleyes: All tho i like Maemo!

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Non-Qt apps can run in MeeGo just like they could in Maemo: by having developers maintaining the libraries these apps depend upon.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

thanks for confirming, now i'm really looking forward meego. well pr1.2 more for now :p

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Just wanted to ask if Ovi Music (DRM free) will be made available for the N900 with MeeGo 1.0 release or any other future releases for this device?

Btw, Ovi Maps (with free navigation for life) is coming to N900, right?

Thanks in advance,

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Guess what....i work for nokia too in dubai!
Yeah im still new, but thats the answer i got from more than one person in a meeting about the future of meego.

And that question was the first thing that poped in my mind because i my self own an n900...

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

7abibi ok, bas qgil works in finland oo mosh bas finland, elo 3alaqa bi Maemo/Meego.. So he has good solid info of what he's talking about...

Sorry for speaking another language.. Had to explain it somehow to him.. :D

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

duel boot?

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

I will choose the one which boots faster, when functions are equal!

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

@qgil

Can you please clarify the above question from Ulrik :confused:

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

I would add the option "Dual Boot" in this poll as well!!! :p

Or going more insane... how about build a ARM-based hypervisor based on Xen or KVM to run both at the same time!??? That way we could have not only multi-tasking, but multi-OSing :eek:

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

@qgil, just to be clear, does this mean that Nokia has now a final decision to support the "end user" version of Meego on N900?

The first post could be interpreted as the Meego developers version already available right now (without graphical UI), but the second post was more direct. But the wiki page currently states that Nokia hasn't either confirmed or denied Meego official support on N900.... Maybe there was no time to update the wiki, so can you please tell what is the official position from Nokia?

If this is confirmed, I suggest to also publish in the http://maemo.org/news/ section, since it would be a more direct way than through posts on the forum.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Personally I want maemo.

Probably after ~6 months when MeeGo reaches PR 1.2 too I'd be interested in a dual boot.
No beta testing can replace real world customer experience and suggestions. No need to rush MeeGo.

Either way if nokia supports this officially this is indeed a gesture of good faith from them and I'll think trice before I change to another brand.
If not... well I'm unfortunately used to that.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

I think it is interesting question.

With current Maemo 5 stage we are as laboratory mouses - we have good mobile device, but with not all functionality - not so good phone functions (phone book, sms, profiles), not good GPS maps, etc.

So, I personally prefer MeeGo - I know that at this moment it is not polished, but has good future and it is worth to invest in it. We will still feel as laboratory mouses for while, but will have faith that soon will get good and up to date OS with excellent functionality.:)

Regards.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

I think most of us were aware that Maemo was a platform in development and it would take sometime to be mature/polished. The Meego announcement was changed the scenario since it is clear that's where Nokia and Intel will invest most of their resources on its development.

But let's face it, those who adopted Maemo probably like to be early adopters and thus participate in all the O.S. polishing process. So the same users will probably be tempted to install Meego 1.0 as soon it is launched, specially if it comes with attractive new features and UI, which is what everybody expects.

Me too!! Meego won't be exclusive from Nokia, so they need to differentiate from competitors. More than a gesture of goof faith, it is a business decision which defines whether old customers will remain loyal to Nokia or not.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Like I said: "either one". A "don't care" selection. Unfortunately polls can't be changed; my comment was an FYI.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

If intel can provide me with an OS that provides basic apps such as email, calendar, and media player that do more than the bare minimum that one would expect from such an app I'm in. Also portrait mode. It makes me irrationally furious when I have to put down what I'm doing to send a single-word sms reply when every review I read for the N900 said that portrait support was promised to come "any day now". I feel kind of ripped off and MeeGo has the promise to remedy all this.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

I'm always willing to try new things so yeah MeeGo 1.0 :)

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

The moment MeeGo surpasses Maemo 5, I won't hesitate to switch.
Until then, good old Maemo.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNo6pn-dnSQ

does anybody know what happened to this very cool vmware development?

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

This is where there are two OS but definitely some conflicts?

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Meego to be officially released for the N900? Awesome news. I was one of the vocal ones who complained.

Thank you!

I love my N900 more and more everyday.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Don't jump into conclusions for now, for me at least it is still unclear if the statement was about an actual Nokia support for N900 or could be a "best effort" to let the community support a distribution of Meego. The wiki page about the subject "Meego on N900" has no updates, so I asked @qgil on my previous post on this same thread, but no answer so far:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=52

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

It still hasn't been decided if Meego on the N900 will be productized.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=20

What it means that while Meego will come to the N900, it is still not clear if it'll contain the same features/applications expected of a proper Nokia Meego Device.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

That's why everybody who wants official Meego on N900 should answer the Nokia official survey and give your feedback:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...t=nokia+survey

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

wondering why two Nokia employees tell different stories. My guess is no meego for N900 lets wait any see.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Sorry for the silence. I was afk most of last week, trapped in a volcano ash cloud.

No news on Nokia supporting MeeGo / Harmattan officially for the N900. That is a business decision and no Nokia business representative has given any news recently.

There is progress on the technical side: [MeeGo-dev] Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

toto29820: who are the two Nokia employees and what are their diverging quotes?

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

as i understand ovi store would have meego apps and intelapp store would have them. does it mean i can use both on upcoming nokia meego based phone (hopefully n900 too) or ovi only for nokia and intel only for intel?

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

and as i see there are no much official news from nokia on n900. it would be interesting to know about futher support even if u can't reveal on meego suppot we still would like to know about maemo5 future. as we know about hong kong edition release. does it mean that pr1.2 is not the last update and if not what is upcoming?

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

@qgil

Do you have any more info about the dual boot possibility? This sounds pretty exciting and opens a lot more opportunities for us.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

I'm guessing your following posts were misunderstood a bit and since then have been posted around the forum with the expectation that Meego will come to the N900 as fully productized OS.

The key mistake being putting the "OFFICAL" in it. Which well.. is a bit vague and was interpreted by many in a way at tangent to yours. Nothing wrong with the word, but to many official==productized
1. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=10
The next post does make it sound like Nokia is providing a proper upgrade path for current N900 users, doesn't it? In which case many would expect it to be a proper commercial grade release.
2. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=12

The other Nokia employee would be @harrihakulinen who made it clear(thankfully, I must add) that it still has not been decided whether Meego will come as a productized OS to the N900.
1. http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=20

OR it could even refer to @Ahmed360
1.http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=22
2.http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=46


OT: After the whole "Cleaning up the FUD" thread I'd really appreciate better worded/less ambiguous posts. :)
I for one am not expecting a positive decision by the business guys given Nokia's legacy on that topic. But, I still hate the noise this topic brings/can bring along when things are misunderstood or taken out of context. Ruins T.M.O for me :(

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

While things might seem a bit confusing, they are actually quite clear as soon as you understand what is MeeGo, what is Nokia and what is what you are looking for.

MeeGo is an independent project from The Linux Foundation that releases an open source operating system supporting different hardware platforms, being the N900 one of them.

Nokia is a commercial company that participates in the development of MeeGo and is working on products and releases based on this operating system. It hasn't announced any plans to offer a MeeGo based update for the N900.

If you are looking for updates of proprietary software like Ovi Maps or Adobe Flash then the MeeGo project alone is of little help and you need to look for the owners of that software.

Therefore, the use of "official" is correct both in Harri's and my communication. We both work at the MeeGo Devices team at Nokia, on top of the real stuff happening. We avoid rumours and we stay on facts and public information, even if at the expense of not explaining all the things you wish to read.

About the other recent comments, if you have generic questions about MeeGo please consider checking and asking at http://forum.meego.com . Here we can keep focusing on Nokia devices & support.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Thanks for clarifying this, qgil.

The fact that this project "Meego on N900" is running by a dedicated team on Nokia is great news, thus it is no surprise that would lead the most optimistic users to believe N900 will be officially supported (at least the chances got better in my opnion). I do understand that business decisions sometimes can not be disclosed, even if there is a decision already.

I think the best way for keep this project running is to answer the official survey about N900. You mentioned several times that maemo.org was not the proper customer channel for complains, so now we have a unique opportunity. I hope the results of this survey will reach the Nokia executive guys who have indeed the power to make the final decision about supporting Meego officially.

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Thank you sir, I already said that few posts ago

Now its confirmed...i wonder where is bandora now :cool:

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

[Quote = qgil ; 616151 ] Meego será lançado oficialmente para o N900 , desde que o N900 é a referência hardware ARM do projeto Meego . Veja [ http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_realistically_expect url] # The_MeeGo_project_has_announced_support_for_the_N9 00.__What_does_it_really_mean_for_my_N900_.3F [/ url] e as questões relacionadas com a página wiki. [/ QUOTE]

i hope so....realy!! one question you are Portuguese?

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Tens toda a razão,a Nokia não pode abrir muito a boca relativamente ao progresso do OS para a concorrencia...! Mas tambem espero que não deixe mal os fãs do grandioso N900!!!

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

I'm still here.. :D yeah yeah, you don't need to rub it into my face.. :mad: lol

My hopes + faith on Nokia has gone down a lot lately.. like ALOT.. :( oh well.. waiting for some vendor to really interest me.. Galaxy S looks nice.. O.o

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Haha like you could go to anything else after the N900. I laugh at thee!

No seriously, if you've had the N900 experience, there's just no going to anything else. Everything else is backwards. Not Android 2.2, 3.0 or WinMo7... nothing will do the trick!

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

Lets remember that MeeGo and handset UI is not Harmattan/MeeGo or even what ever Nokia do afterwards, we will not have Ovi on MeeGo for N900. Ovi services and Nokia support, though obviously currently limited, will only be available to N900 users that stick with Maemo 5. Not to mention the UX is multitouch driven, and from what I've experienced with it is extremely flakey because of this. So, the future of the N900 is a split path, and something you alone will be able to decide for yourself, though because of multi-booting, we can get the best of both worlds. :)

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 

As much as I can't wait to get going with Meego, I think I'll wait for the finished product in October. As an end user and not a developer, I can't see the point of installing an OS that's still very much in development