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TiagoTiago 2010-08-04 03:54

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Hi, i'm Tiago, i'm carioca but i've been living in São Paulo for more than 10 years, i'm 25 years old, I jsut got my N900 today (well, it's past midnight here, so i guess it was yesterday)

My father brought my N900 from the US, he lives in a different city, so he sent it via SEDEX, he sent it saturday, i waited, waited, then on monday the tracker said it was in route to this place, i googled the name of the place and it scared the **** out of me, all sorts of reports of that place "loosing" expensive items, and even a report of someone having a brand new cell phone going thru there, and then arriving with the box several grams lighter than when sent, empty except for manuals and paddings, but tuesday my N900 was delivered to my building without a scratch, even with the Nokia tape sealing the box, i've been messing with it ever since :)

Btw, how can i set the timezone? It only wanna think in terms of regions, and it doesn't mention Brazil inside latin America:/
Also, how can i change the date format to how it is in Brazil but without using any translation on the interface etc? (I don't like translations, when they aren't stupidly wrong, often they still translate using a lesser known translation to a word, i speak english fluently, so having it in the original works much better for me)

eduperez 2010-08-04 17:12

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 774983)
Btw, how can i set the timezone? It only wanna think in terms of regions, and it doesn't mention Brazil inside latin America:/
Also, how can i change the date format to how it is in Brazil but without using any translation on the interface etc? (I don't like translations, when they aren't stupidly wrong, often they still translate using a lesser known translation to a word, i speak english fluently, so having it in the original works much better for me)

Timezone: click on the battery icon, clocks and alarms, world clocks, local time.
Turn OFF "auto update", selec the timezone, save, go back and turn on "auto update".

As for the date format, no easy way that I know of... there is an environment table LC_TIME, you can see it if you go to the terminal and type "set". Changing this should work, with the "export" command, but will get back on next boot. I tried doing it when I got mine, and I even located the file that defines this, but I forgot where it is located.

I installed the Brazilian translation and I'm happy with it.

TiagoTiago 2010-08-04 18:56

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
I tried that the other day and for it kept going to the regions thing, but earlier today i accidently bumped and endedup in the world clock thing, and then after that i could set the timezone for the clock just fine...i'm not sure what happened....

andrecompan 2010-08-07 03:04

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
hi everybody!
I've just bought my N900!
A lot of good experience by now.
One drawback: I don't know how to write things using accentuation and cedilla...
even using the great brazilian portuguese package by Jorge Aguilar...
By the way, I'm engineer, 33yo, and live in Rio de Janeiro.

eduperez 2010-08-09 14:20

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andrecompan (Post 778477)
hi everybody!
I've just bought my N900!
A lot of good experience by now.
One drawback: I don't know how to write things using accentuation and cedilla...
even using the great brazilian portuguese package by Jorge Aguilar...
By the way, I'm engineer, 33yo, and live in Rio de Janeiro.

accentuation and cedilla: press the blue key and then the "Sym Ctrl" key. It displays a keyborad on the screen.

I know you can customize the physical keyboard and the keyboard on the screen, but I'm not sure how.

andrecompan 2010-08-10 02:34

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eduperez (Post 780418)
accentuation and cedilla: press the blue key and then the "Sym Ctrl" key. It displays a keyborad on the screen.

I know you can customize the physical keyboard and the keyboard on the screen, but I'm not sure how.

Hey Thank You EduPerez! :D
I didn't know that!

Maybe as Nokia is starting to sell N900 in Brazil they decide to solve our issues with accentuation and cedilla through the keyboard and with the autocomplete dictionary...
But I'm not sure about it. I had a Sony bought in Brazil and it simply ignore portuguese symbols...:mad:

TiagoTiago 2010-08-10 07:16

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
btw, has any of you figured out a way around the absurd prices and conditions of mobile dataplans?

luiscesjr 2010-08-24 20:50

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 781192)
btw, has any of you figured out a way around the absurd prices and conditions of mobile dataplans?

First of all, hi, I'm from a city close to RJ, and I'm nowadays living in Niteroi.

Tiago, depende, de que preços vc fala?:confused: Na vivo eu pago internet por mb por exemplo, so uso quando necessario, mas isso pq onde eu vou tem wifi:D. Fora isso, meus serviços sao baratos.

maxximuscool 2010-08-24 20:55

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Ce pas muipinto disgrassada.
That's all I can remember lol

luiscesjr 2010-08-24 21:00

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 797226)
Ce pas muipinto disgrassada.
That's all I can remember lol

Was that a portuguese attemp? Looks like french + spanish...:eek:

TiagoTiago 2010-08-24 21:54

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
I went to the TIM store near my house to ask about this, to get an unlimited flat rate plan i would've to pay 50 Reais + a minimum of 50 Reais in a post voice plan, and if i went over the small minutes quota the price per minute increases a lot, and that is for the lowest speed; if i instead stay pre-paid and pay per MB, by the end of the month I'll have paid hundreds of Reais, not counting voice minutes. There is no good option, all the options they offer are too expensive, and many are a minefield of extra charges.

Bobbe 2010-08-24 22:28

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Yo, crowded with Brazilians here!

Name is Daniel (nickname is Bob), and I live in Águas Claras (one of Brasília's "satellite-cities" as we call them).

I was more active in this forum a couple of months ago (when I purchased my N800 at Submarino for R$ 400, remember that?), but the screen started wearing out and after a while I kinda drifted away from the forum as I stopped using the NIT every day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 797271)
I went to the TIM store near my house to ask about this, to get an unlimited flat rate plan i would've to pay 50 Reais + a minimum of 50 Reais in a post voice plan, and if i went over the small minutes quota the price per minute increases a lot, and that is for the lowest speed; if i instead stay pre-paid and pay per MB, by the end of the month I'll have paid hundreds of Reais, not counting voice minutes. There is no good option, all the options they offer are too expensive, and many are a minefield of extra charges.

I'm a freelance translator/conference interpreter, which means my phone number is pretty much the only way I can reach clients (and be reached by them) and consequently make money. For that reason I cannot go on pre-paid, it would be quite ridiculous if I couldn't finish some business arrangement because my credits ran out. I went for Vivo (and the iPhone) last year because they were (literally) the only ones which had an unlimited data plan for a "reasonable" price at the time (if you can call R$ 69.90 / month reasonable) when my contract expiry date ran out last year (in December, that's when I always switch phones). This in Brasília, of course, and this plan was put out specifically for the iPhone (one of the reasons why I went for it, after owning a series of Nokia Eseries devices) so I don't know about the rest of Brazil.

Vivo was also the only one which didn't charge anything for tethering, which is awesome because I work on events without wi-fi all the time, and not having internet while doing simultaneous translation is quite the hassle (we have to have the easiest and quickest way to look up a word or a definition available in a pinch, and almost every single interpreter I know will bring his/her laptop to the interpretation booth). Having unlimited data AND tethering allows me to set up tethering or even share wifi (using MyWi on the iPhone or JoikuSpot on a Nokia) to get the job done anywhere I go. Speed is relatively good (for Brazilian standards at least, 0.7 to 1.2 mbps depending on signal strength), so maybe you could look that up Tiago.

Anyhoo, AWESOME to see you guys here!

TiagoTiago 2010-08-24 22:40

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
You know you always end up paying more than the full price of the phone + what you would pay in phone bills with those subsidy(sp?) contracts, right?

Btw, i'm not sure you guys noticed, but the option with unlimited (well, except for the speed limit) data plan, even though its post-paid, it actually requires you to spend a minimum amount of money each month even if you don't use the minutes; i find that kinda stupid, if it's post why the **** should i pay before hand in order to be allowed to use it?

Bobbe 2010-08-24 22:48

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 797303)
You know you always end up paying more than the full price of the phone + what you would pay in phone bills with those subsidy(sp?) contracts, right?

Not for me, because I really use almost all the minutes and messages that my plan includes, and they would be A LOT more expensive if I bought them on pre-paid. Not to mention the iPhone cost R$ 1,500 less than it would if I bought it out-of-contract, so FOR ME it was a reasonable option. (What I save on calling my gf for free for instance could feed a small house, you know how girls love to talk). It is not for most people though, you're right about that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 797303)
Btw, i'm not sure you guys noticed, but the option with unlimited (well, except for the speed limit) data plan, even though its post-paid, it actually requires you to spend a minimum amount of money each month even if you don't use the minutes; i find that kinda stupid, if it's post why the **** should i pay before hand in order to be allowed to use it?

I didn't get this, you have to spend money on minutes to get data? You mean you have to hire a voice plan to get a data plan? That's not really true =))

Bobbe 2010-08-24 22:55

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Oh yeah, and here goes a small compilation of how many Brazilians have answered, and where they are (divided per region to get an idea):

Worked top to bottom here for no particular reason. It just felt reasonable, OK? No particular love or hate for any region in specific. Also used Nicknames instead of names, so it will be easy to see you guys in other topics =)).

Northeast
Watergate - Ceará
mccarmo - Ceará
Bernardo - Salvador
Jadson - Macau (RN)
geraldoramos - João Pessoa - PB
trigaum - Remanso (BA)
colchaodemola - Sergipe

Center-Western
Bobbe - Brasília

Southeast
traysh - São Paulo
russo_br - São Paulo
Patola - São Paulo
Angelochelotti - São Paulo
roberto@datafidelis.com.b - São Paulo
igorgomes - São Paulo
r_zedeck - Mauá (SP)
daniel.prates - Itú (SP)
TiagoTiago - Rio de Janeiro (São Paulo?)
andrecompan - Rio de Janeiro
luiscesjr - Rio de Janeiro
Amarantus - Belo Horizonte

South
Maya - Santa Catarina (<-- is that THE ONLY BRAZILIAN CHICK IN THIS FORUM? WHY, GOD, WHY?)
Jaison.Antoniazzi - Joinville (SC)
cpscotti - Criciúma (SC)
Germano - Porto Alegre
carlosgblos - Campo Bom (RS)

Other countries
nokian-series - Lisboa
Arkylon_PT - Penafiel (Portugal)
dalonso - Barcelona
skzo - Porto (Portugal)
H3llbound - Lisboa (Sydney Based)

Didn't introduce themselves
eduperez - ??

TiagoTiago 2010-08-24 23:08

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbe (Post 797308)
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I didn't get this, you have to spend money on minutes to get data? You mean you have to hire a voice plan to get a data plan? That's not really true =))

The girl at the store told me the only way to get the R$50/month unlimited data plan was to also sign the R$50/month minimum post voice plan contract, for a total of R$100/month + whatever i use beyond the minutes quota.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbe (Post 797312)
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TiagoTiago - Rio de Janeiro (São Paulo?)
...

...

I was born in Rio, but i've been living in São Paulo for more than 10 years

maxximuscool 2010-08-24 23:09

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
By Chick you meant young girl below the age of 27years old?

Bobbe 2010-08-24 23:34

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 797323)
The girl at the store told me the only way to get the R$50/month unlimited data plan was to also sign the R$50/month minimum post voice plan contract, for a total of R$100/month + whatever i use beyond the minutes quota.

That's pretty much standard. If you want to get data only, get one of their 3G plans. I believe it's not that different from most other places in the world. And store clerks are not always 100% knowledgeable in what they're selling, maybe if you take a look at TIM's website or call their call center you may get a better plan.

I've heard that Claro just started doing tailored plans. You choose exactly how many minutes, messages, roaming, data etc. you want on your plan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 797323)
I was born in Rio, but i've been living in São Paulo for more than 10 years

Paulista it is then =)

Bobbe 2010-08-24 23:37

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 797324)
By Chick you meant young girl below the age of 27years old?

Are you one? Why the 27 age limit? Can't chicks be older than that and still be called young? My previous girlfriend was 33 and she could certainly be called a chick, by any reasonable standards :D

And also, the thing you posted back there, what were you told it meant? It's not strictly Portuguese, but sounded like someone was trying to teach you how to say "dick" and "mother****er" (or similar) in Portuguese :p

TiagoTiago 2010-08-25 00:14

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
There were no standalone unlimited data plans, and the limited ones come with their own SIM cards, i would have to keep powering off and popping the battery all the time in order to be able to use both voice and data. The *144 people told me i should go to a physical store for these matters, they didn't seem to know much about anything.

H3llb0und 2010-08-25 00:27

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
I'm from Lisbon, Portugal, but living in Sydney, Australia for 3 years now.

My name is Hugo and I have my N900 since Jan (ordered it from the US in late November)

None of you "Brazucas" in Sydney? There's lots here :D

Bobbe 2010-08-25 00:49

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 797368)
There were no standalone unlimited data plans, and the limited ones come with their own SIM cards, i would have to keep powering off and popping the battery all the time in order to be able to use both voice and data. The *144 people told me i should go to a physical store for these matters, they didn't seem to know much about anything.

Sounds like you'd be better off at another carrier.

Let me just get this straight: what do you have right now and what do you want to have? We went so far talking I got confused =)

Bobbe 2010-08-25 00:50

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 797375)
I'm from Lisbon, Portugal, but living in Sydney, Australia for 3 years now.

My name is Hugo and I have my N900 since Jan (ordered it from the US in late November)

None of you "Brazucas" in Sydney? There's lots here :D

I know, we flock like summer will never come =)

I have a few friends who lived in Australia for a while, but none of them are there now. Know a few Australians living in Brazil though, even worked with one as an English teacher. =)

luiscesjr 2010-08-25 01:00

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoTiago (Post 797303)
You know you always end up paying more than the full price of the phone + what you would pay in phone bills with those subsidy(sp?) contracts, right?

Btw, i'm not sure you guys noticed, but the option with unlimited (well, except for the speed limit) data plan, even though its post-paid, it actually requires you to spend a minimum amount of money each month even if you don't use the minutes; i find that kinda stupid, if it's post why the **** should i pay before hand in order to be allowed to use it?

Unlimited plan is ******** man, you can only use ( for Vivo ) 2gb, then you pay extra taxes, because companies don't sell you Speed, just data:mad:, and their "unlimited " data is up to 2gb... :confused:I do not know about Tim, and about their politics in voice thing too, and for my operator, I talk like 150 mins month and I pay more or less 200 R$. Is that your avagerage?:confused:

Bobbe 2010-08-25 02:30

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luiscesjr (Post 797402)
Unlimited plan is ******** man, you can only use ( for Vivo ) 2gb, then you pay extra taxes, because companies don't sell you Speed, just data:mad:, and their "unlimited " data is up to 2gb... :confused:I do not know about Tim, and about their politics in voice thing too, and for my operator, I talk like 150 mins month and I pay more or less 200 R$. Is that your avagerage?:confused:

I pay for truly unlimited data. No matter how much I download, it's the same flat rate at the same speed, and I have a Vivo plan. Guess they changed it this year, then.

luiscesjr 2010-08-25 11:09

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbe (Post 797460)
I pay for truly unlimited data. No matter how much I download, it's the same flat rate at the same speed, and I have a Vivo plan. Guess they changed it this year, then.

Man so you are lucky. I talked with them last year when I bought my N85, because I was also buying a vivo 3g thingy to use mobile internet with my notebook, and that's what the guy told me, that after 2gb downloaded internet speed would come to be like dialed net! ( For both mobile and modem )

Bobbe 2010-08-25 11:51

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luiscesjr (Post 797746)
Man so you are lucky. I talked with them last year when I bought my N85, because I was also buying a vivo 3g thingy to use mobile internet with my notebook, and that's what the guy told me, that after 2gb downloaded internet speed would come to be like dialed net! ( For both mobile and modem )

I dunno if I ever reached 2gb with my mobile (have wifi at home), but dude, 2gb is A LOT OF downloading if you only use while out. Did you ever download more than that a month? I mean, considering you DON'T use it as your main home internet?

If you do, disregard what I said =)

luiscesjr 2010-08-25 12:05

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbe (Post 797779)
I dunno if I ever reached 2gb with my mobile (have wifi at home), but dude, 2gb is A LOT OF downloading if you only use while out. Did you ever download more than that a month? I mean, considering you DON'T use it as your main home internet?

If you do, disregard what I said =)

Well, yeah, hehe I know its a lot to download. I never reached this limit, but I could, if for example I download thing like debian and other huge apps to the phone it's easily gone... Glad I have my wifi too for this, also glad youtube videos and other internet flash players have streaming media, so it's not " counted "as a download.

Bobbe 2010-08-25 12:19

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luiscesjr (Post 797788)
Well, yeah, hehe I know its a lot to download. I never reached this limit, but I could, if for example I download thing like debian and other huge apps to the phone it's easily gone... Glad I have my wifi too for this, also glad youtube videos and other internet flash players have streaming media, so it's not " counted "as a download.

Er... it is. A 4 min. streamed youtube video will set you back around 20 mb on your 2gb quota =)

Bobbe 2010-08-25 12:20

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Hey guys, did anybody get Sygic working in Brazil? Did anybody try?

luiscesjr 2010-08-25 12:54

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbe (Post 797804)
Er... it is. A 4 min. streamed youtube video will set you back around 20 mb on your 2gb quota =)

Well actually not. It's traffic, just like when you open any web page, commom traffic. If I open a web page that has an image, this image will be downloaded to be displayed, then I spend my gbs. Really, I already watched many videos, and it doesn't change more than a few mbs at the end...

Amarantus 2010-08-25 12:59

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Hi brazucas ! has anyone tried Nitdroid or Meego on N800 yet ?

colchaodemola 2010-08-25 13:12

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
+ um aqui ...

Bobbe 2010-08-25 13:28

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colchaodemola (Post 797880)
+ um aqui ...

Diga ae colchãodemola (hilarious nick, by the way).

Let's try and keep things in English here though, kinda good netiquette.

Where are you from? Why did you join the community?

Bobbe 2010-08-25 13:30

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amarantus (Post 797863)
Hi brazucas ! has anyone tried Nitdroid or Meego on N800 yet ?

Meego won't run on the N800 will it? Not enough hardware I guess. Waiting for my N900 to arrive to try NiTDroid and Meego =)

Bobbe 2010-08-25 13:34

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by luiscesjr (Post 797854)
Well actually not. It's traffic, just like when you open any web page, commom traffic. If I open a web page that has an image, this image will be downloaded to be displayed, then I spend my gbs. Really, I already watched many videos, and it doesn't change more than a few mbs at the end...

I don't know which application you're using, but you're either watching the low quality ones or whatever software you're using is doing some awesome compression work. =)

colchaodemola 2010-08-25 13:36

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbe (Post 797898)
Diga ae colchãodemola (hilarious nick, by the way).

Let's try and keep things in English here though, kinda good netiquette.

Where are you from? Why did you join the community?

Yeah, it is really a funy nickname ...
I am from Ceara but im living at sergipe, at least for now :P
I bought my n900 a while ago and i keep improving it ... and this is the best source for features :)

Amarantus 2010-08-25 14:51

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Well there´s a thread in Meego oficial forum discussing about that
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=317

Amarantus 2010-08-25 14:53

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Sorry I did not introduced mylself , I m from BH Minas Gerais and own a N800 for a long time now.

TiagoTiago 2010-08-25 16:05

Re: Brazilian Maemo users, please say hello
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobbe (Post 797391)
Sounds like you'd be better off at another carrier.

Let me just get this straight: what do you have right now and what do you want to have? We went so far talking I got confused =)

currently i got a pre-paid voice plan, the byte cost on pre-paid is over the roof, i don't use voice much, often i end up having to add credits just to not loose my number 'cause the old credits are about to expire (i guess on average, including the times i use more minutes, i'm spending about R$20 every 1.5 months) rarelly i actually use up all the credit i got


I was willing to go up to about R$50 a month if that gives me unlimited data plan, truly unlimited, no asterisks, even if it's at dialup speeds; but TIM will only let me have that if get the 50+50+additional_minutes combo, so no deal

I'm not sure if any other carrier offers truly unlimited data plans, much less at around that cost and without additional contracts piggybacking the data plan, i don't think they do, but i could be wrong


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