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Penguinbait: By "three buttons on the top edge," do you mean the three physical buttons on top of the 770 (none of which work when I'm in OPENBOX) or three of the numerous buttons on top of the screen (which only appear sometimes -- I don't know how)? I do not have (or cannot find) a zoom- button, and the zoom+ button doesn't work. And the white Internet connection screen is immovable once brought up. I suspect that this is not very helpful, but it's the only information I can see to provide at this juncture. Sorry.

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The Window Manager itself does not work on the 770, the WM6 did work.

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It sounds like openbox is not running. Again did you do a ps? is openbox running.

From a command line, run openbox, what happens? what is the error?



And yes I mean the physical buttons

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Error message as follows when running from command line:

"openbox: error while loading shared libraries: libobrender.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory."

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Also, I did a ps and if I read the results correctly, only Rox-Filer is running, along with python running an AppletRun and PanelClock.

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cat /etc/ld.so.conf

does it contain /usr/local/lib ?

if so, have you rebooted?, if not run ldconfig?

That library is included in my tarball, unless it not compatible on the 770?

does running ldconfig produce any errors?



ls -l /usr/local/lib/libobrender*

are the libraries in place?

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ld.so.conf does contain /usr/local/lib.
Running ldconfig does not come up with any error messages.
Running ls -l /user/local/lib/librobrender* results in a listing of five librobrender files so I'm assuming this means they're all in place.

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I will test it on my device soon and I am sure we will get this running.

After all, it's just a Linux device so it will work ;)

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Audax: Any progress in getting this working for a 770? I would even settle for the WindowMaker-ROX working on my 770. When I tried to install that and get it operational on my 770, it rendered my MMC operating system unbootable, and I had to reflash (reinstall) the operating system on the MMC once again from scratch. As a result, I'm now a bit gunshy. Is the fact that most of the current development activity is almost exclusively focusing on the N800 rendering the 770 pretty much obslete as to being able to partake of all these exciting new developments, of which Penguinbait's are among the most tantalizing? Thanks for any assistance you can render to me (and others still clinging to the 770 as their Nokia tablet of choice).

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I am in the same boat as ascherjim, my mmc image was corrupted enough that it no longer boots. I would be interested to learn of any alternate Windows Managers for the 770, but I am a bit leary taking a chance of wiping out my mmc partition. Is it possible to backup the mmc image to my PC? I have a rsync copy of the partition, but have had no joy trying to recover.

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Me too, it corrupts my mmc image... (My N770 is willing to try another flash.)
But, I love the idea of using any alternative to hildon.
Thanks for your work, PENGUINBAIT!!!

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I understand your frustration, if I had a 770, I could verify before I posted a tarball. But unfortunately I do not, so I am unable to verify and make useable on the 770 when I post. I have to rely on the community to try and test and report to me how to put a tarball out with 770 changes if necessary. I just can't afford to by a 770, and if I could, I would probably buy another n800, so I could do video conferencing. My next purchase will be larger memory cards and external hard disks, all this development has used up all my space everywhere.


OPENBOX-ROX I believe has a problem with openbox window manager, but I have not been able to determine from the postings thus far what the actual problem is?

Window Maker ROX should be working on the 770, I believe users said it waas working on the 770? Right?

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I boot to flash

I mount a remote linux smb server (could be windows) (you will need cifs support in kernel or module)


mount -t cifs //192.168.0.1/public /mnt -o rw -o username=pb8,password=pb8passwd

mount the mmc

mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /run


cd /run

tar cvf /mnt/backupfolder/mmc0p2.tar .


to restore,

either run

mkfs.ext2 /dev/mmcblk0p2

if you do not have mkfs.ext2 you should install e2fsprogs, you will also get fsck which you should use after crashes on mmc.

apt-get install e2fsprogs

now


mount -t cifs //192.168.0.1/public /mnt -o rw -o username=pb8,password=pb8passwd

cd /run

tar xvf /mnt/backupfolder/mmc0p2.tar



I choose not to do compression with gzip or bzip2 because the 770/800 is not real fast at compressing and uncompressing files.

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Penguinbait: I fully appreciate the obviously severe current restraints and priorities on your time and development goals. The fact that you have any time and concern at all for us 770 users is commendable. (I am puzzled, though, that you yourself don't have a 770. You mean you've never ever had one, but have come to the N800 as your first Nokia internet tablet, or that you had one but got rid of it?) Anyway, regarding the OPENBOX-ROX and the WindowMaker-ROX, the first would load on my 770 but not work, and the second would load and then corrupt my MMC. So from my own experience, neither works on the 770. I do hope that interested developers will come to your, our and my aid in this matter. Again, many thanks for your stalwart efforts. Regards, Jim

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If you search you can read my many complaints about my 770 and the repair process. The long and short of it is I had a 770 for 11 months, I had a few issues I wanted fixed before the warrant was over, so I sent it in, never to b seen again. I took $240 after 1.5 months in repair, I initially did not take the money, but the the n800 was announced, so I called back and took the $240 and boutght a n800 for 400$, it was a good way to upgrade, but I no longer have a 770 now.


I really hope some of the stuff I have put out will encourage some more development in this arena. I am just playing around, and sharing. WE NEED SERIOUS DEVELOPMENT TOWARDS A REAL SOLID ALTERNATIVE.

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Penguinbait: I am probably one of the lucky few(?) who bought my 770 shortly after it came out and have never had any hardware problems with it. Rather than buy myself a N800, which to me would not be any significant improvement on the 770, I have been tempted of late to spend a bit more and purchase a Sharp Zaurus, which apparently more readily lends itself to the sort of window manager experimentation you're doing, to say nothing of also being able to change the basic operating system. Anyway, I'm waiting though to see what further propects there might be forthcoming for the 770 before I go that route.

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I also considered the switching to umpc, but the n800 only cost me $160, so it was a no brainer. I also nevery really had any hardware problems with my 770, I had one tiny little dead spot on the screen, I would have ignored it,but it was on the onscreen keyboard, I would have to hit the "S" key like three times to get a S and it mage handwriting recognition impossible. I put off sending it in for months, but my warranty was almost up. I initally hated the n800, thought it was ugly, now I like it better than the 770.

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But of course as you didn't have a 770 you were satisfied with, the switch to the N800 made sense. But I DO have a well-functioning 770 (for now!), so the trade-off for me would not likely be the same as for you.

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I am pretty sure I would have purchased a n800 anyway, but it would have been a harder sell to the wife :D

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I hear you.

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Penguinbait: Thanks for the backup instructions. Thought I could just restore with a rsync copy, but I guess I was wrong. I do not presently have a samba server set up (Linux only household), but I will set one up tonight and give it a go. If I could get the backup to be reliable, I would be willing to try any alternate Window Manager. I really appreciate all the hard work you have done, it would be really nice to have an alternate Window Manager (to Hildon) on the 770.

I bought my 770 shortly after its release thinking that there would be many window managers such as with the Zaurus. Here it is two years later, and with the exception of a experimental gpe image ( http://handhelds.org/~philippe/ ) your work is the has been the first serious effort I have seen. Again, thanks for all your effort.

One last question, do you have a link to Window Maker ROX ?

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There are some problems using rsync to copy the OS, tar is the best bet

Window Maker
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=4569


Window Maker + ROX
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=4885


Whats Next - Soon
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=5233


I would like to get OPENBOX-ROX working for 770, its fast, works well, the keyboard does not run at 100%. We need to do some more troubleshooting. If we can not determine the problem, i will try to release another window maker version with some updates, I wont leave you in the dark. Anyone else out there got a 770 scratchbox setup, I can tell you what source to compile and see if you can get it working. I just dont have room to setup another scratchbox, I have too many already.

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Penguinbox: I've most, most reluctantly come to face reality and see that possessing the N800 is a necessity for those of us wishing to remain participants on the cutting edge of Nokia internet tablet development, and I've purchased a slightly-used one from another member of this forum. However, I will still cherish (and continue to use) my 770. Anyway, I'll now be able to better keep up with your pioneering efforts. Regards, Jim

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penguinbait: I got OPENBOX ROX running on my 770!!

I cheated a bit, however. I installed the "hacker" version of N800 software on my 770 (2.2006.48-7). After copy to mmc, your instructions installed OPENBOX ROX with no difficulty. I am very happy. Thank You.

Your backup instructions also worked and are greatly appreciated.

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Awesome, I am glad to see it works

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Hello

with this hack , can we recompile and install all we want, this work as a real linux with ROX ??

i want to know if you can recompile UAE or GDESKLET for the N800 without modifying the source ?

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If you are using this you can compile lots of software without needing to change the source code to run inside matchbox/hildon. The source may need to be altered depending, just to run on ARM. I have seen source code where I just edited the Makefile and removed the i386 or i686 references and compiled fine, sometimes its even hardcoded in the code itself. Not sure how optimized that is but, it will compile. As far as the software you mentioned, I have not tried either of them.

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Troubleshootr: I wish I had seen and tried your solution involving the "hacker" version before I ordered my N800. However, since my N800 hasn't arrived yet, I would like to give your solution a try on my 770, but I am a bit confused. You state: "I installed the "hacker" version of N800 software on my 770 (2.2006.48-7)." The operating system I currently have on my 770 is 3.2006.49.2 -- a numerically later version than the number of the hacker vesion you cite. Why is this? Is your hacker version an earlier version? And where do I find it to be able to flash it onto my 770? Anyway, any guidance you can provide me will be appreciated. Regards, Jim

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ascherjim: Please see this thread.

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=4852

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troubleshootr: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction -- but after looking at all that's involved, and knowing that my N800 is on its way, I think I'll just wait and get the OPENBOX-ROX working on that. My 770 for now is set up just as I need it, and I expect I'll soon be kept busy enough configuring the N800. Thanks again, and my congratulations on your perserverance with the 770 (as opposed to my cutting-and-running). Regards, Jim

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For the past few days I been trying to get a copy to my mmc so i can install openbox-rox install but it fails at the tar step..... Can any body help me? I Really want to getit going...

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ead.php?t=5364

Thank You.

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if you can try to compile UAE , can you tell us if it's work well (sound frame/rate ...)

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Is there any way to "right click" (besides using VNC) in OPEN-BOX?

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I have a qucik question... Do I need to set permissions to the /.config folder for ROX? I been trying to make some changes like wallpapers, etc.... And it keeps telling me that it was unable to save to /home/user/.config/path/to/rox permission denied...

Thank You.

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You can unlock it from the tools menu. Desktop/Taskbar unlock

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Thanks penguinbait.

one more question... is it safe to untar OPENBOX-ROX over it again... I manage to delete a luncher "GNUMERIC" from the not installed folder... And dont know how to restore the launcher again...

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yes it should be, you can also restore single files from tar


tar jxvf OPENBOX-ROX.tar.bz2 ./path/to/file/FILE

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Thank penguinbait I manage to restore the single file.

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I will email you a few icons and script I just created.

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Thanks, although I did not recieve the email? did you already send, can you send again?