Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Thats patently not true. Sites that functioned perfectly for me with 1.1 just hours before I flashed now no longer work. I find it difficult if not impossible to believe that several sites all cut over to 10.1 within the space of a few hours. So lets get back to what we know as fact.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Thanks! What happens if you upgrade from the site? Where it says, click here to upgrade?

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

that doesn't explain why sites running on flash 9 stop working or get slower under 1.2...

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

or why did bbc news from the web site have lag issues were as with pr 1.2 it now works better?

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

The more I think about it, Nokia would have to be VERY stupid to not update the N900 with Flash 10.1. Too high profile of a device and far too many loyal Nokia user bridges to burn not doing it.

Surely they are not stupid.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

I think you underestimate Nokias ability to be stupid. History has shown they don't have the best track record doing the "right" thing. Don't get me wrong they make good hardware etc, but their current business model is apparently being put together by a bunch of monkeys at typewriters.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

is it breech of contract to state that this phone is capable of a being alike to a pc user experience? if flash 10.1 is not made available then most internet experinces will be way behind what you can have via your pc.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

....nokia care.....anyone ever phoned them and got thu? i have been trying to get an answer from nokia for over 45 mins and am still hearing "sorry we will answer your call shortly"

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

It is purely criminal for the N900 not to have Flash 10.1, since the Incredible works great with it even without GPU support (yet).

N900 has the best current combination of input options and chipset to work well with 10.1 content (assuming gpu support). Flash games that chugged on the N900 play very smooth on the Incredible, but most do not work very well for obvious reasons.

That said, loads of games are being modified to work with touch only interfaces at m.kongregate.com, through the direction and resourse support of Adobe and Google as well (partners against the Apple empire). Both are pushing for mobile / touch friendly content and are pushing for updates before the final build of Flash 10.1 is released later this year.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

I think its important to note that none of this would be a damn issue if Adobe didn't have a goddamn death grip on the Flash format and would allow people to code third party players. Quite frankly I could think of nothing finer than to see flash disappear from the net altogether.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Why isn't flash coming to the n900 when Adobe demonstrated it on the n900 six months ago. That's total bs.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

okay guys i hate to be a thread nazi but can we PLEASE save the arguments over 10.1 for somewhere else and work towards getting flash 9 working as it should post 1.2 update. i have checked the sites i have issues with, and looking under settings the "about flash player 9" option confirms it is flash 9 with the problems.

also has anyone else noticed that after flash video hanging at 1% the browser also stops working until restarted?

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Indeed I have, however while playing around I had something stuck in loading and left it idle while I was doing something else. When I came back I moved the window slightly and the video started playing. Am trying to replicate the results.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

http://maemocentral.com/2009/10/08/v...1-on-the-n900/

What about this?

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

great....just been on hold for over an hour to nokia care......never got thru as i had forgot to charge the home phone...and now its just died on me.....ggggrrrrr!!!!!!

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Apart of what Open Source lovers saying about flash I have to strongly disagree with this statement.

I cannot even imagine situation when flash player will be released to the 3th party. But this is the most obvious scenario.

We will get 20 different versions each will get different features. The biggest advantage of plash player (cross platform compatibility) will be destroyed. Regarding to the current tech wars one of the company called APPLE will create their own Flash player and will tell you this is the best solution ever because its APPLE will destroy the 3th parties and we all end up in Orwell tech world. Is that what we wont?

When you guys understand that this is only way and Adobe weapon in their hands? And at present I'm really glad they doing this way. maybe some day they will remove license restriction. But if that will happen I will start looking for another job. That will be true flash killer or suicide actually.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

The problem is Adobe is now at the "put up or shut-up" mode and expect the OEM's to provide resources (money and support) so that the published beta and final release will work with the respective OS and hardware drivers. Adobe is already working on the Moto Droid, which is the same chipset as the N900 (3430), but of course a different OS.

The sad thing is Adobe already stated that Flash 10.1 can be released as an app on any current OS, but must be (obviously) compliant with the respective OS to work.

Nokia seems to have wanted to be part of the 10.1 hoopla, late last year, but now it is time to spend money and allocate people. Different game now.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

I can only tell you guys, the best flash performance so far I can notice using Midori. But this web browser is a pain in terms of stability :(

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Point in all of this is all Nokia has to do is probably allocate one person to work with Adobe to get this done. The hardware part is already covered, since the 3430 is one of the supported devices for GPU support.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

this is true not all flash sites are working. i have this site www.redtube.com, before the update it's able to view it in full screen but now with pr 1.2 it opens in full screen if you maximize it however just showing 3/4 of the video screen.

try it yourself .... you'lll get annoyed but will enjoy the site lol

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

They already did that. Long time ago, That's why we where able to see N900 running Flash 10.1 7month ago.

Open Screen Project is nothing that happened 7months ago. They started 2 years ago.

Who?

Adobe
AMD
Antena 3
Atlantic Records
ARM
Associated Press
BBC
Burda Digital Systems
CELL
Chunghwa Telecom
Cisco
Comcast
Condé Nast
Daum
Disney Interactive Media Group
EPIX
FOX Mobile Group
Freescale Semiconductor
Google
HTC
Imagination Technologies
Intel
LG Electronics
Lionsgate
Marvell
MIPS Technologies
Motorola
Movial
MTV Networks
NBC Universal
Nokia
NTT DOCOMO
NVIDIA
OpenPeak
OpenTV
Palm
Paramount
PBS
Qualcomm
QNX Software Systems
Research in Motion
RTL Interactive
Sagemcom
Samsung
Sonic Solutions
Sony Ericsson
ST-Ericsson
STMicroelectronics
STERN
Symbian Foundation
Teleca
Texas Instruments
The New York Times
Tomorrow Focus Technologies
Toshiba
Verizon Wireless
Vizio
Wind River
ZiiLABS

And there is some competition running for developers.

You can send the form ask for support up to $100 000 if you have some interesting idea for project running under Flash 10.1

Guess who is the ONLY sponsor beside Adobe
NOKIA

And this is what I can't understand really no matter how hard I'm trying. Anyone has good conspiracy theory? :confused:

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Well I managed to recreate the situation. Started video playing on a well known "jiggly" site. Stopped at 1% as people have reported. Left video on for say 2 mins - went and did something else. Came back clicked video again and it started playing. So its not that it CANT play - its something else screwy.

Should point out that from what I could see the speed of playback was very good. Cant tell you if its better than 1.1 as I hadn't gone to the site previously.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

oh conspiracy theories....this could get interesting.....lol

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

For Fudges sake - lets keep on topic. This is about issues and finding a solution. Start an offtopic thread if you want to discuss conspiracies etc. I swear there are more Hijackings here than on a terrorists vacation.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Ok Kids - I have the issue sorted out for the "jiggly" site most of you seem to be having an issue with. The problem isnt the video its the ads on the side of the screen. They are flash - the video itself wont begin playing until those ads are loaded. This appears to be something to do with the way that the browser in 1.2 loads pages. Previously I imagine that the page was loaded on a first come first served basis. Now however it seems as if the flash wont begin playing until all the content on the page is loaded.

My advice - be patient - or install an ad blocking host file (don't use adblocker because it causes problems with some pages in 1.2)

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

I can confirm that after pr1.2 ota update I'm not able to see a lot of flash videos on different sites that are running flash 9. so this is not flash 10 issue. youtube works just fine.

would like to have an app that will scan the flv content on the page and allow open it in a rich player, not within html page. maybe the reason to issue is browser and not flash stuff? what do you think?

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

So back to my original assumption - thanks everyone for having a think about this.

I've yet to bugzilla this - does anyone feel confident to post an error report?

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

could someone with firefox installed check that stuff out?

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

can you suggest one?

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Whatever work around you can find it will not change the fact that Flash 9 performance is lower than was under PR 1.1. End of story.

You can try blockers, different browsers, overclock N900 but will not solve the core issue that exist for sure.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

this is bad news...


btw... I'm a bit sad that no one picked up on my 'both of them' comment when referring to the n900 development team. :eek:

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Thats not true at all. I for one find the performance of flash significantly better. Websites where the flash would only play correctly in full screen mode, now play well embedded in the page. I can finally play CNN videos.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

could someone update a poll to have those options:
1. updated OTA or NSu, same performance
2. updated OTA or NSu, stopped working
3. Flushed, same performance
4. Flushed, stopped working
5. Flushed emmc as well, same performance
6. Flushed emmc as well, stopped working

so we are sure the way we update does or does not matter?

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Bratag, could you clarify on installing ad blocking host instructions here? thanks

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

I set up the original poll - not sure how or whether it's possible to modify...

Feel free to setup a new thread for the purpose of polling this, and link back to here.

Thanks

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

Ok so basically I used the file from

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.txt

Essentially this file contains a bunch of ad site names and overrides the normal lookup of their IP - pointing them at localhost instead. So here is what you do.

Grab this attachment. unzip it somewhere. backup your N900's current hosts file. copy this hosts file to /etc/hosts on your N900.

Thats about it. Works well for me but I make no guarantees about yours etc.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

There is another thread related to flash/video and adblock, see:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=682648

Could the problem be adblock related?

I haven't (yet) noticed any problems related to PR 1.2 browser and flash usage. I have not installed/used adblock.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

would adflashblock not stop the flash ads loading anyway and solve this problem? well nol it doesn't solve the problem since i'm already using it, but i was under the impression that was the whole point of it?

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

hey can anyone help me, i live in the uk and the update has not arrived over the air yet for some reason.

Re: Flash video playback problems with pr 1.2
 

prob not the right thread but anyway...

check your firmware version (settings > about product)

i'm assuming you're on 205 which doesn't have the update and probably won't get it, since it never seen the last update either!
solution: either flash to the 203 uk firmware or the global edition. or: wait, wait, and wait some more.

i'm on 203 version in uk which was among the first to get pr1.2 so if you're on that you should have had it already.