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Chrome 2010-06-05 08:56

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Well, im using 3 widgets right now:

1- A widget called "Battery"
2- Personal IP Adress
3- Media Player

Are any of them intensive on cpu?

Joorin 2010-06-05 09:02

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 700765)
...

If i do killall Xorg, device restarts so i think it's essential for the system.
Hildon-desktop and Hildon-status-menu also using some CPU, when i terminate them, they reopen and continue using CPU.

The Xorg process is the X server that is responsible for rendering everything you see on your N900. Killing it is ... not good.

And, the column that you marked is "Total time spent in the CPU" which, for Xorg, should be high compared to the rest. If the hildon processes spend lots of time in the CPU, my guess would be that you're using widgets/applets/whatnots that want to update their graphics and thus generate time in the CPU.

Have a look at the documentation for htop and learn that the columns actually mean. This will help you in the future.

Chrome 2010-06-05 09:07

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Here's my App list anyway:

AdBlock Plus
an-Droid Theme
Angry Birds
Angry Birds Level Pack 1
Array Theme
Battery
battery-eye
Blackboard lite
blubbels
bluezwitch
Bouce Evolution
Carbon Theme
Conboy
Conky
Converter
Counter
Custom Operator Name Widget
DateToday Home Desktop Widget
DrNokSnes
Droid Fonts
Extra Decoders Support
Facebook Desktop Widget
Facebook Sharing plugin
Facebook Widget and Photo uploader
feedserivce2
Fennec
Flash Launcher
Flashlight
Flip Clock
fm-boost
fMMS
Foreca Installer
ForecaWeather widget
garnet-vm
GPE File Manager
Gweled
Hangman
Headphone daemon
Healthcheck
htop
Leafpad
Live Focus
Load Applet
mad-developer
maemo-geolocation
matrix theme
Midnight Commander
Morpho QuickPanorama Pro
MSN protocol plugin for conversations and contacts
mypaint
Ogg Support
OpenSSH client
openSSH client and server
openSSH server
Opera Mobile
Personal IP Adress
Pixelpipe media uploader for the social web
Pocket Calc
Prismic Wallpaper Manager
Proximityd
rootsh
Seismograph
Shaded chat theme
Shorcutd
simple brightness applet
spbbrainevolution
Solitaire
transition control
tweakr
TweetGo
ukeyboard
unzip add-on for the File Manager
WeatherBug
x11vnc
xournal

PHEWWW.. wrote them all.

pantera1989 2010-06-05 10:15

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Chrome you really want to improve your battery? :P. May I suggest: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com...okia-n900.html

Ugly..but plenty of juice for the processes to eat.

And here's my opinion:

These could just be listening, and use minimum processor, or they could be coded wrong andcheck every second..which really eats up your battery:

Battery
Counter
Custom Operator Name Widget
DateToday Home Desktop Widget
Facebook Desktop Widget
Facebook Widget and Photo uploader
Load Applet
Personal IP Adress
Proximityd
Shaded chat theme

Personally I don't believe any of these is a a problem..but they might be.

Said to never close:
Healthcheck
Flash Launcher

These are said to have problems that when you open them and close them, the process remains open, eating up CPU usage of course.

Chrome 2010-06-05 10:56

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Thanks pantera1989, i'll try to remove what u suggested and set device IDLE for a while.

Anyway, here's what demsg reports:

http://pastebin.com/j0nUTFv0

Thought that may help.

pantera1989 2010-06-05 22:46

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 700875)
Thanks pantera1989, i'll try to remove what u suggested and set device IDLE for a while.

Anyway, here's what demsg reports:

http://pastebin.com/j0nUTFv0

Thought that may help.

Sorry I didn't reply..but I was expecting someone more experienced to answer you. The fact is that I have no idea what to do with those reports. Sorry.

gabby131 2010-06-06 01:22

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
i dont consider this a problem but i just want to get opinions and possible facts.

today, my battery drains 17% for 1 hour and 46 mins.

for those hours, i have:

-wifi fully connected, all the way
-5 IM accounts active
-momentarily use of microB and firefox browser for internet
- non stop media player (playing mp3 for 1 hr/45 min)
-overclocked @250/1000mhz (xlv)

is my battery drain normal under the above conditions?

ADDITIONAL INFORMATOON: i have 4 desktops and 20 widgets active (all of them updates either when clicked or switched desktops, except fot the e-mail widget that updates every 5 mins)

Chrome 2010-06-06 06:26

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
@gabby

Of course your battery drain is normal, I'd lose +40% for 2 hours under your conditions.

Looks like reflashing rootfs and eMMC is the only solution.

gabby131 2010-06-06 13:09

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
@chrome

flashing the emmc solved this problem when i first re-flash my phone in pr1.1

Bundyo 2010-06-06 13:34

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Just for consideration: applications that update information in real-time (or at least often) like some desktop widgets might in some circumstances drain the battery. Also I wouldn't trust applications that have daemons running and collecting data.

devu 2010-06-06 13:47

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
I can add from my daily use experience.

4 IM accounts are always active when I'm on wi-fi and this way with average usage of device battery last around 24h... good enough for me.
However when I'm out and on 3GP traveling around (usually underground)
I've noticed All of IM accounts keep trying to reconnect and eating battery very fast. If I'm at work in place where is poor network coverage this is happening every 10 sec and obviously trigger screen to light up. In that case battery last no longer than 6h for me.

So... just to test it. I turned all of IM accounts off.

Now on Wi-Fi or 3GP (doesn't matter really) battery last nearly 2 days.
I learned to turn them on only when I need it and there is good network condition for that. It's enough to have only one network error on the list and same issue happens.

Also I can't update the plug-ins for Conversation with PR 1.2. Each time when I re-flashed device and run the same backup ability to do that seems to be random for me. I can't find consistency here. I was trying to turn off/on repositories... no luck.

noobmonkey 2010-06-06 16:44

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pantera1989 (Post 700834)
Said to never close:
Healthcheck
Flash Launcher

These are said to have problems that when you open them and close them, the process remains open, eating up CPU usage of course.

Well Healthchecks was only if you reject GPS when asked - that should now be fixed in the new devel version 10 mins ago - but i can't ever replicate it :)

fhmutairi 2010-06-07 08:16

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Here is my situation
Reflashed FIASCO, EMMC, through installation of 88 apps from Backup phone laster 11 hours (rigourous installation) after two days.. it started draining the batter again..

Today,
Started up the phone at 6:45AM... idle phone (no music, no wifi, no calls,, no SMSs) battery level at 7% at 10:45AM!!!!

No witter widget
no call notify!
Widget used.. personal data plan monitor, home IP, RSS feed, AP News, OMWeather!! (Same as Pre-PR1.2)

Can anybody help??

Chrome 2010-06-07 14:23

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
My idle battery graph today, still bad i guess:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8...0100607171.png

noobmonkey 2010-06-07 22:04

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 703550)
My idle battery graph today, still bad i guess:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8...0100607171.png

Wow that's better then mine :P hehe - thats bad?

Joorin 2010-06-07 22:17

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devu (Post 702273)
...

I've noticed All of IM accounts keep trying to reconnect and eating battery very fast. If I'm at work in place where is poor network coverage this is happening every 10 sec and obviously trigger screen to light up. In that case battery last no longer than 6h for me.

I've had my N900 die from drained battery from trying to update my IMAP folder. It's not fun waking up to a dead device just because the ISP at work has fscked things up.

Personally, I'd call this a bug in the network layer. An application that fails should do it gracefully without killing the host.

Chrome 2010-06-10 18:59

Re: Who's drinking my battery juice????
 
Oh dear, this is what i call a perfect IDLE battery consumption:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4...0061018472.jpg


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