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stone17 2010-06-13 04:20

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
could you please specify "a powerfull laser"?
i very much dought that you can damage anything on your phone with standard class 1 and 2 lasers, which are more or less eyesafe. you would have to tightly focus a class 2 laser and even then the power would still too be low. a class 3 laserwould do the trick but i wonder what your friend is doing with a class 3 laser, its not that you would get them for a few hundred bucks at wallmart. anyways, i ld say anything above 10TW is a powerfull laser...

just a small comment, a green laser is not more powerfull than a red one. the human eye is very sensitive to green light, thats why you think it is very strong, but you can only tell by reading its specs.

bandora 2010-06-13 04:59

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
To answer the thread title. No, and I don't intend to.. xD


... and sorry for your loss. :(

Benson 2010-06-13 06:08

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
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Originally Posted by stone17 (Post 712765)
could you please specify "a powerfull laser"?
i very much dought that you can damage anything on your phone with standard class 1 and 2 lasers, which are more or less eyesafe.

Eyesafe, yes. Not necessarily camera-safe, since a camera lacks the protections found in your eye (blink reflex, pupil contraction). Still, Class 1 are almost certainly safe. (Remember, Class 2 are the ones that are eyesafe only if the blink reflex is taken into account.)
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you would have to tightly focus a class 2 laser and even then the power would still too be low.
Focus it, like through a camera lens? Yeah -- and IMO the power is iffy here, high-end Class 2 (1mW) is IMO likely enough.
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a class 3 laserwould do the trick but i wonder what your friend is doing with a class 3 laser, its not that you would get them for a few hundred bucks at wallmart.
Class IIIa lasers are not at all hard to get -- or especially dangerous. Probably more like $25 at Walmart, and $10-$20 numerous places online. I have several of these, and even a Class IIIb (less than $25), and simply keep them away from eyes and cameras. Admittedly, the Class IIIb (a 20mW blue-violet pointer) was imported and sold in violation of FDA regs, which require a key lockout, etc., but legitimate versions are available with those safety features.

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anyways, i ld say anything above 10TW is a powerfull laser...
I'm not sure if that was a typo or a joke; the most powerful laser I've seen in operation was a 15W argon unit (very impressive, I assure you!), and the most powerful in the world are MW-class chemical lasers (for military purposes, naturally). While a class IIIa pointer may not seem "powerful" by those standards, compare it to other things likely to be shined in one's camera or eyes; the sun delivers roughly 1kW/m^2, and a laser beam with only a couple mm^2 aperture and 5mW power easily exceeds that.

ndi 2010-06-13 12:50

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
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Originally Posted by acou (Post 712728)
It turned out ok this time, but i learned my lesson. :p

It is my opinion that you have learned the wrong lesson :)

What you should have done is separate personal stuff from public - not because you lend the device, but because people look over your shoulder.

E.g, I have two browsers, and use MicroB for usual stuff and Firefox for ... the rest, mainly because Fennec has the sync feature so it publishes the favorites.

Images I keep in RAW, either mine (as shot) or converted. They don't appear in the normal image thing you can show off. There's a RAW viewer implementation from some guy I owe a lot to :)

Videos you can keep in a format not listed or not understood by Nokia's player. I think the indexer looks at extensions, so there's that, however, MPlayer doesn't care. Alternately, use a codec that's different or simply use folders and exclude them from indexing. There's a tracker cfg app out there that eases you in.

I see no reason to make sacrifices just because you're a freak. If that were the case, N900 would come natively with a padlock, since we all need one. (not to mention it does, it's a lock code)

So, remember: It's a powerful device for a reason. So it can hold two lives at the same time. :D

KoolMoeDee 2010-06-13 12:53

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
Why dont you get his phone when he is not looking and point that lazer at his camera :)

Crogge 2010-06-13 13:05

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
Seriously if you would have a few more brain cells then you should know that its quite dumb to point with a laser into a very sensitive camera.

ndi 2010-06-13 13:31

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
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Originally Posted by KoolMoeDee (Post 713096)
Why dont you get his phone when he is not looking and point that lazer at his camera :)

Because one dolt is enough, no need to double their numbers.

stone17 2010-06-13 14:26

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
I'm not sure if that was a typo or a joke; the most powerful laser I've seen in operation was a 15W argon unit (very impressive, I assure you!), and the most powerful in the world are MW-class chemical lasers (for military purposes, naturally). While a class IIIa pointer may not seem "powerful" by those standards, compare it to other things likely to be shined in one's camera or eyes; the sun delivers roughly 1kW/m^2, and a laser beam with only a couple mm^2 aperture and 5mW power easily exceeds that.[/QUOTE]

no, thats not a joke, and you are wrong, the most powerfull lasers on the world actually exceed 1petaWatt and are not used for military purpose at all. i regularly work on a 100terraWatt laser. dont forget, its not only about fluency, its also about intensity, a nuclear power plant delivers megaWatts,but over a year or so, standard high power lasers do that in femto seconds (10to the negative 15).

amd if someone uses a laser of class 2 or higher to fovus it on the camers cmos sensor, he deseerves it.

ysss 2010-06-13 14:36

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
@MaxJP: C'mon man, why do you let him get off with such intentional act???

PS: Everytime I read this thread's title in the Active Topics sidebar, I just want to answer... "No, I have not. Let me just try that out in a second... ARGH!!!".

MaxJP 2010-06-13 14:43

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
I guess people are straying too far from the title. If you don't believe it, you may try it, but I've warned you, don't regret or blame others.
@ysss: If i could punch him without getting into trouble, I would.:mad:

Benson 2010-06-13 14:51

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
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Originally Posted by stone17 (Post 713189)
no, thats not a joke, and you are wrong, the most powerfull lasers on the world actually exceed 1petaWatt and are not used for military purpose at all. i regularly work on a 100terraWatt laser. dont forget, its not only about fluency, its also about intensity, a nuclear power plant delivers megaWatts,but over a year or so, standard high power lasers do that in femto seconds (10to the negative 15).

Ah, femtopulses. Cool stuff, guess I didn't think of them. :o

But they suck at blowing up missiles! :p

badboyuk 2010-06-13 17:21

Re: Have you pointed a powerful laser into your phone's camera?
 
what an idiot for pointing a laser in the camera


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