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railroadmaster 2010-06-19 20:31

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
DROID does!!!

Flyingaero 2010-06-19 20:38

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Uhh are you people complaining about the size? n810 which is easily bigger and thicker than the EVO and the Droid X fits in every pair of pants ive owned :rolleyes:

railroadmaster 2010-06-19 20:46

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
I don't know I prefer the size, design, and form factor of the Sony Ericsson Xperia x10 better than the Droid x form factor. I have to say how would a device with a 4.4 inch screen fit in you pocket. This thing looks ugly.

Average Joe 2010-06-19 20:55

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 716808)
CDMA...meh

Co-sign. Wish it was on T-mobile or AT&T. I'd be all over it. Before i got my 900, i was rockin a HTC Advantage X7501 and it barely fit in my front pocket:D

imperiallight 2010-06-19 20:55

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
The form factor of the Hd2 seems more remarkable considering the monstrosities that have come after it.

bxbomber 2010-06-19 23:16

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 722067)
The form factor of the Hd2 seems more remarkable considering the monstrosities that have come after it.

i've played witha an hd2 at work. a coworker has one. the only thing i noticed was that it feels heavy. besides that it i really liked it.

imperiallight 2010-06-19 23:19

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
I had one for a while but Android was taking ages to port, I agree for its dimensions it is deceptively heavy at 159g. WM is stuck in the dark ages compared to its specs.

Some people are reporting that the HD3 will keep the same dimensions and be filled with a 4.5" screen, I find this hard to believe.

bxbomber 2010-06-20 12:48

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imperiallight (Post 722196)
I had one for a while but Android was taking ages to port, I agree for its dimensions it is deceptively heavy at 159g. WM is stuck in the dark ages compared to its specs.

Some people are reporting that the HD3 will keep the same dimensions and be filled with a 4.5" screen, I find this hard to believe.

If they can keep it with the same dimensions and 4.5 inch screen i'm gonna be impressed.

maybe they'll finally have a different screen resolution. 960x540

ysss 2010-06-20 12:55

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
I wonder how the battery life is? Since the screen is usually the biggest power drain compared to other components of a smartphone.
I hear the Evo cannot last through a day even with very light usage.

Thesandlord 2010-07-05 23:07

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingaero (Post 722053)
Uhh are you people complaining about the size? n810 which is easily bigger and thicker than the EVO and the Droid X fits in every pair of pants ive owned :rolleyes:

Exactly! I have carried a N810 for 2.5 years and never had a problem, and these devices are actually smaller! People not used to tablets obviously think they are huge...

Also, I have made voice calls over SIP holding the N810 to my face, and these devices are lighter so thats even better. Supposedly the battery life is good because the Droid X's 3630 is 45nm compared to 65nm of say a snapdragon or older 3430 processor.

Kangal 2010-07-05 23:18

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
The best handset out there is/will be the Samsung Epic 4G.

Hardware wise its hard to ignore the petite size compared to the other monsters, plus it packs a QWERTY slider.

Functions wise it is on par with the EVO 4G, DroidX etc but also adds the WiMax antenna and the best screen available (S-AMOLED). This phone will not be easily killed.

Software wise it will get 2.1 or 2.2 depending on release.

gerbick 2010-07-05 23:53

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
OMAP 3630... it's already better than the N900 and Palm Pre. I think the Droid X might be - in an unlocked form - my next phone.

Thesandlord 2010-07-06 00:00

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 741789)
OMAP 3630... it's already better than the N900 and Palm Pre. I think the Droid X might be - in an unlocked form - my next phone.

Um its CDMA so unless they make another version like they did for the Droid there is no unlocked version. The unlocked Galaxy S is probably the best unlocked phone right now.

But I agree with Kangal, Epic 4G is truly epic!

railroadmaster 2010-07-06 00:01

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 741789)
OMAP 3630... it's already better than the N900 and Palm Pre. I think the Droid X might be - in an unlocked form - my next phone.

There will probably European version that is unlocked gsm just like the original Droid is available in gsm as the Motorola Milestone.

tso 2010-07-06 00:16

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 741795)
There will probably European version that is unlocked gsm just like the original Droid is available in gsm as the Motorola Milestone.

heck, i think chippy from umpcportal is already drooling over the "milestone x" thanks to its inclusion of xenon flash ;)

nosa101 2010-07-06 04:56

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nosa101 (Post 716808)
CDMA...meh

Oh silly me.

I went to Verizon today and the sales rep fellow said he could put one of the phones on hold so I can come in and play with it

gerbick 2010-07-06 05:06

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 741793)
Um its CDMA so unless they make another version like they did for the Droid there is no unlocked version. The unlocked Galaxy S is probably the best unlocked phone right now.

Erm. One word... Milestone. It's GSM, it's unlocked, and it's not CDMA. And yes... I'm counting on them making a GSM version for Europe; just like they did with the Droid.

And I don't have enough specs on the S5PC110 CPU to make a decision on that part yet.

fahadj2003 2010-07-06 05:13

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
fu*king awesome!
apart from fitting in the pocket, awesome!! \m/

nosa101 2010-07-06 14:36

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
The engadget review wasn't too flattering and they are very honest with Android stuff

How does it compare to the EVO though?

te37v 2010-07-13 06:34

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
so.......I found this recently talking about how the droid x was locked down

http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/d...at-i-know.html

U.ser 2010-07-13 15:22

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Oh no ... i hate Motorola !

Kangal 2010-07-13 15:55

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DroidX ... its okay but certainly not the best

unlike the Droid/Milestone which was the best Android qwerty-slide phone ... scratch that it is the best smartphone out there.

It has one of the best feature list: GSM, camera etc etc
It has one of the best processor/GPU/DSP combination
It has a beautiful hardware/casing/buttons (qwerty is somewhat bad but the GameGripper is good news)
It packages this with an acceptable battery life and acceptable OS.

...or until the Epic 4G comes

ysss 2010-07-13 15:58

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
I bought a Milestone last week. I think that device has done a huge amount of RIGHTS and very little WRONGS.. at least from my short experience with it so far.

Kudos to Moto.

bxbomber 2010-07-14 02:40

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 741793)
Um its CDMA so unless they make another version like they did for the Droid there is no unlocked version. The unlocked Galaxy S is probably the best unlocked phone right now.

But I agree with Kangal, Epic 4G is truly epic!

I would get a galaxy s/vibrant for tmo but no front facing camera and no camera flash are big no no's

Enyibinakata 2010-07-14 03:24

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bxbomber (Post 751043)
I would get a galaxy s/vibrant for tmo but no front facing camera and no camera flash are big no no's

Samsung night mode does away with need for flash according to Samsung.

bxbomber 2010-07-15 01:03

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Enyibinakata (Post 751062)
Samsung night mode does away with need for flash according to Samsung.

My coworker should be getting a vibrant tommorow, friday we'll test it out in low light conditios to test out night mode.

roguespy0 2010-07-15 01:14

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The droid x bootloader is locked, you can root it bit cant flash custom roms which is lame. I beleive locking iybdown was a bad move.

nosa101 2010-07-15 01:26

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Played with it today and it's pretty impressive. I like the fact you can resize widgets too. The browser was a lot faster than the n900's

wmarone 2010-07-15 03:16

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Ah, here it is.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Droid-sm...news-7467.html

I'm not sure what Motorola hopes to achieve by this.

smoku 2010-07-15 11:52

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bxbomber (Post 716775)
wow, imo this is going to a kickass device.

Well... If you accept the fact that it is unmoddable (it selfdestruct if you try)
and you're left on Motorola mercy forever with no path for community upgrade (much alike with Nokia's NITs) - it's a great device.

I was really waiting for new Milestone XT720 release - it looks like a dream platform to port Maemo/Meego to. But I more than sure, that it is "protected" with selfdestruct hardware too.
And to my knowledge only Nokia and Motorola make OMAP based devices. So, we're really left with whatever crap Nokia has to offer us in the future :( At least it is basically open crap.

bxbomber 2010-07-15 14:06

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 752690)
Well... If you accept the fact that it is unmoddable (it selfdestruct if you try)
and you're left on Motorola mercy forever with no path for community upgrade (much alike with Nokia's NITs) - it's a great device.

I was really waiting for new Milestone XT720 release - it looks like a dream platform to port Maemo/Meego to. But I more than sure, that it is "protected" with selfdestruct hardware too.
And to my knowledge only Nokia and Motorola make OMAP based devices. So, we're really left with whatever crap Nokia has to offer us in the future :( At least it is basically open crap.

Every phone manufacturer seems to be in love with snapdragon, personally from what i've seen the omap are better.

The droid x is a major letdown if you can't add custom roms. The whole reason of android is to install custom roms.
Hopefully the n9/meego phone will be more rom friendly.

Edit, what are the odds we get an OMAP4430 - 720 MHz dual-core for the n9?

Kangal 2010-07-15 15:16

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bxbomber (Post 752837)
what are the odds we get an OMAP4430 - 720 MHz dual-core for the n9?

Very slim, virtually zero.
This is not about making customers happy, this is about making money.
Big corporations don't rush into the best available technology, they ease into it, expanding their "lifetime" by continuing to offer upgrades to their previous device.

Prime example: Apple
1) See how the first iPhone lacked 3G when it was an established technology (and all competition had it)
2) See how the iPhone 3G had ARM11 processor (while Cortex A8 was available and the competition closed in on it)
3) See how the iPhone 3GS lacked a good screen and kept it on a low resolution.
4) See how the iPhone 4 has Cortex A8 when they could've easily adopted Cortex A9 architecture, or has other short-comings that could've been prevented (cant think of it now)

Seems like HTC are the fastest in the (phone tech) business, followed by Samsung, then Apple, then Motorola, then LG and others while Nokia is the second slowest, RIM is the slowest and Palm is dead.

Back on topic: Nokia needs to stop playing catch-up or they will become RIM, and they need to have an aggressive tactic to offer leading hardware, leading software and enticing advertising if they're to recover from the 3 year downfall

Laughing Man 2010-07-16 11:50

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bxbomber (Post 752837)
Every phone manufacturer seems to be in love with snapdragon, personally from what i've seen the omap are better.

The droid x is a major letdown if you can't add custom roms. The whole reason of android is to install custom roms.
Hopefully the n9/meego phone will be more rom friendly.

Edit, what are the odds we get an OMAP4430 - 720 MHz dual-core for the n9?

I just read a major fail (sadly) on Engadget today about the Droid X. Samsung is using a special chip (I think it's hardware side at least) that will brick the device if you try. I hope HTC never goes that route.

mchu6am4 2010-07-16 13:14

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 752914)
Very slim, virtually zero.
This is not about making customers happy, this is about making money.
Big corporations don't rush into the best available technology, they ease into it, expanding their "lifetime" by continuing to offer upgrades to their previous device.

Prime example: Apple
1) See how the first iPhone lacked 3G when it was an established technology (and all competition had it)
2) See how the iPhone 3G had ARM11 processor (while Cortex A8 was available and the competition closed in on it)
3) See how the iPhone 3GS lacked a good screen and kept it on a low resolution.
4) See how the iPhone 4 has Cortex A8 when they could've easily adopted Cortex A9 architecture, or has other short-comings that could've been prevented (cant think of it now)

Seems like HTC are the fastest in the (phone tech) business, followed by Samsung, then Apple, then Motorola, then LG and others while Nokia is the second slowest, RIM is the slowest and Palm is dead.

Back on topic: Nokia needs to stop playing catch-up or they will become RIM, and they need to have an aggressive tactic to offer leading hardware, leading software and enticing advertising if they're to recover from the 3 year downfall

+1 Agree about Nokia comment!!!!

wmarone 2010-07-16 17:34

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 753813)
I just read a major fail (sadly) on Engadget today about the Droid X. Samsung is using a special chip (I think it's hardware side at least) that will brick the device if you try. I hope HTC never goes that route.

DROID X is a Motorola handset.

Clarifications were posted from Motorola, they're using the encrypted bootloader and eFuse to block rooting/3rd party ROMs under the guise of "protecting against malware" but it will not brick the device.

Still crap though.

Laughing Man 2010-07-16 17:37

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Ah, ok Motorola. Sorry about that (I read the article on the Metro early in the morning). Anyway, I hope other Android manufacturers don't do that.

Edit: And that really is a BS excuse. To root or put custom ROMs on your device you need to do it willingly (granted it's relatively easy with all the Youtube tutorials floating around). So if a user gets malware because of that, well it's their own bloody fault. Just like all those iPhone jailbreakers a while back who got a "virus" because they didn't change their SSH password.

quipper8 2010-07-16 17:53

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 752914)

Back on topic: Nokia needs to stop playing catch-up or they will become RIM, and they need to have an aggressive tactic to offer leading hardware, leading software and enticing advertising if they're to recover from the 3 year downfall


I think Nokia would very much like to be RIM, RIM leads all in north america. it aint the flashiest, but it has tremendous loyalty, large business customers and crazy services lock-in.

Why do you think nokia has an e-series?

Nokia wants to compete against RIM with e-series, iphone/android with n-series, and every other throwaway phone manufacturer with all the lower series.

Stop wishing for Nokia to make just one kind of phone or even more drastically as some have called for only one phone period. It aint gonna happen.

http://communities.bmc.com/communiti...id-catching-up

I think Nokia would swap with RIM in North America in a minute

smoku 2010-07-16 18:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 754105)
Clarifications were posted from Motorola, they're using the encrypted bootloader and eFuse to block rooting/3rd party ROMs under the guise of "protecting against malware" but it will not brick the device.

eFuse will not brick the device??!
it's designed to brick the device. On a hardware, non-reversible level.

wmarone 2010-07-16 20:32

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 754158)
eFuse will not brick the device??!

Depends, was it implemented to brick the device? It can be reprogrammed via JTAG, so it'll do whatever the developer tells it.

Quote:

it's designed to brick the device.
No, it's designed to be like an FPGA, reprogrammable on the fly.

Quote:

On a hardware, non-reversible level.
Can you imagine the flurry of lawsuits for selling a device that potentially self-destructs? That wouldn't just be bad, it'd be so unceasingly stupid all other sources of stupidity in the world would be washed away.

It is designed to be reprogrammable on the fly. They could easily use it to brick the device, but I suspect they are employing it simply to disable the device in some fashion, reversible via a restore operation by the user. I suspect even Motorola realizes that destroying a device because the user does something they don't like would open them up to lawsuits.

This continues to be crap though, as does their reasoning for implementing this lock down.

smoku 2010-07-16 20:47

Re: Droid X, what does everythink about it?
 
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/...try-to-mod-it/
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/d...at-i-know.html

Well... It might be reversible by Motorola service, but:
- I tampered with the device and it bricked. Please unbrick it.
- You void the warranty. Go to hell.


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