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hordeman 2010-10-04 06:47

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 832738)
Well in terms of hardware, but in terms software they make devices that do the same things.

In terms of hardware there is simply nothing similar to the form factor on the Nokia n810. But there are many devices that are capable of running multiple oses and doing Linux things.

Thanks for the input. You provided many recommendations for devices that do different things, but as it stands, the N810 still does it all! :) Patiently waiting for another comparable device... possibly for infinity.

speculatrix 2010-10-04 14:51

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
the HTC desire Z looks like a true rival to the n900 and n810

http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/overview.html

I'm very tempted myself

reports are there's a few quality control issues so I'd wait a month or so until HTC have had customer feedback and can improve things.

AMLJ 2010-10-04 14:58

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
N900...

I'm not saying one or the other is better... Forget things like that...

They are both good, and we should compare them to other things! They will both beat all other things.

But... *Whispers: "N900 is a bit better in my opinion!"*

They are all great!

hordeman 2010-10-05 04:30

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AMLJ (Post 833072)
But... *Whispers: "N900 is a bit better in my opinion!"

Pssst... whispers: "Please read page 1 of this thread to get people's feelings on the N900". ;)

skatebiker 2010-10-05 12:30

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
And HTC devices are rather easy to root so you can make ssh connection and terminal to the Desire Z.

skatebiker 2010-10-06 07:31

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
HTC Desire:

* Similar screen size OK
* Pull out keyboard (NO VIRTUAL!) (Desire Z OK)
* USB host FAIL
* Open OS OK (GUI is not open but that is also not for the Maemo GUI)
* Wifi, bluetooth, etc. OK
* Easy Debian (for Open Office) FAIL
* Moderate, affordable price
* Slots for expanding memory OK
* Capable of running various OSes (with or without flashing) FAIL

iPhone 4 / iPad / iPod Touch 4G

* Similar screen size OK (iPad FAIL)
* Pull out keyboard (NO VIRTUAL!) FAIL
* USB host FAIL
* Open OS OK when jailbroken (FreeBSD, basis for iOS 4 is open, but GUI is not open but that is also not for the Maemo GUI)
* Wifi, bluetooth, etc. OK when jailbroken )
* Easy Debian (for Open Office) FAIL
* Moderate, affordable price FAIL for iPhone OK for others
* Slots for expanding memory FAIL, OK for iPad + camera connection kit + jailbreak)
* Capable of running various OSes (with or without flashing) OK for iPhone running Android

ctbeiser 2010-10-09 05:02

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
The Desire Z fails pretty much every openness test you can throw at it right now.
See : http://www.coated.com/t-mobile-g2-re...ed-1006201002/

skatebiker 2010-10-12 11:11

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ctbeiser (Post 836925)
The Desire Z fails pretty much every openness test you can throw at it right now.

I think this is only valid for the T-Mobile branded version of the Desire Z.
The nonbranded version lacks this so-called 'protection' and can be rooted.

railroadmaster 2010-10-14 04:00

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
What about the Ocosmos OCS1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRTtm9iGihc
Display: 4.8" Capacitive 1024×600 screen
Storage: 32GB SSD
Wifi: 802.11 b/g
Controllers: OMOS Key Interface
GPS included
USB 2.0 port (full size) and USB Mini
Camera: 3.0mp on rear. 1.3mp on front
Audio port 3.5mm
Micro SD card slot
HDMI out port (via micro-connector)
The only problem is that it is kinda big and it runs Windows, but you should very easily be able to put Ubuntu or Fedora on it. Pricing is unknown. The thing also has keyboard.

lma 2010-10-14 10:12

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
The Sharp Lynx SH-10B looks quite promising, provided the OS can be replaced with a sane distro and the device ever manages to reach the western hemisphere.

linuxeventually 2010-10-14 11:07

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
@lma
That things looks HUGE!

For the lack of a proper reference point and no convenient rulers in the photo (not a FCC photo, lol), I'll go based on the iphone in one of the photos.

Assuming that's a iphone 4th gen...that's roughly 4.5x2.31x0.37".
Mentally rotating the iphone 90degrees and extrapolating, I'd say the SH-10B has a good inch, inch and half width more than the iphone. Flipped open you are looking at a height of about 1.3x times the portrait height of the phone, and looks to be just under twice as thick.

So my crude estimation is 5.85x5.25x0.60" flipped open. The height of each half is about 0.5" more than the iphone. Closed I'd guess 5.85x3.63x1.20". *grabs a ruler* The N810 is ~5.00x2.89x0.52".

As far as pocketablity concerns go the closed height is 3/4"+ which would just be higher up in a pocket and thus is largely not a concern. However the closed width of nearly an inch could be hit and miss depending on the size of the pocket. Plus the thickness is like carrying two N810s in the same pocket.

I'd group the SH-10B in a category (size-wise) between a MID (N810) and UMPC.

It's definitely an interesting device and the driver lock-down situation is gonna make or break it. (from our perspective not it's marketability)

lma 2010-10-14 11:30

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by linuxeventually (Post 840794)
That things looks HUGE!

According to this it's 148 x 83 x 17.8 mm, a bit larger than an N810 (72 * 128 * 14 mm) but quite close to an N800 (75 × 144 × 13 (/18) mm). It's definitely within the range of what I would consider acceptable, but of course YMMV.

IMHO the difference is more than justified by the much larger screen and full QWERTY, though looking at the pics it seems they could have shaved a cm or two and still accomodate those.

hordeman 2010-10-14 14:05

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by railroadmaster (Post 840567)
What about the Ocosmos OCS1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRTtm9iGihc
Display: 4.8" Capacitive 1024×600 screen
Storage: 32GB SSD
Wifi: 802.11 b/g
Controllers: OMOS Key Interface
GPS included
USB 2.0 port (full size) and USB Mini
Camera: 3.0mp on rear. 1.3mp on front
Audio port 3.5mm
Micro SD card slot
HDMI out port (via micro-connector)
The only problem is that it is kinda big and it runs Windows, but you should very easily be able to put Ubuntu or Fedora on it. Pricing is unknown. The thing also has keyboard.

WOW! I should have made one of the criteria be "looks great"! That thing is hideous! :) Otherwise, thank you for sharing: looks big (like you said), but promising!

Den in USA 2010-10-14 14:41

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jedi (Post 723430)
Errr, then why not? The N900 seems to fit the specs well. Except maybe for the "Moderate, affordable price" bit...

N900 screen is too small!

moja 2010-10-14 19:43

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
I agree. My tired eyes would appreciate a screen tthat is about the size of the entire N800 face. Maybe 5.5 inches diagonal.

hordeman 2010-10-19 22:01

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
BTW, would anybody happen to know of a support forum for the M528? I'm seriously thinking of picking one up... especially now that FF support is being dropped for the N810.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ynXRDmIho

railroadmaster 2010-12-28 02:04

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hordeman (Post 845485)
BTW, would anybody happen to know of a support forum for the M528? I'm seriously thinking of picking one up... especially now that FF support is being dropped for the N810.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ynXRDmIho

You really can't buy a Gigabyte m528, but you can buy a Aigo MID from various places http://www.dhgate.com/aigo-mid-p8880...f12d31308.html and http://www.shopkami.com/index.php?op...category_id=84

hordeman 2010-12-28 17:39

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
Wow! $364 isn't a bad price at all! :) Thank you! If I didn't just get a G2 and a new laptop, I would seriously look into this. I guess life is all about timing.

railroadmaster 2010-12-30 01:39

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hordeman (Post 906150)
Wow! $364 isn't a bad price at all! :) Thank you! If I didn't just get a G2 and a new laptop, I would seriously look into this. I guess life is all about timing.

I'm going to think about buying one of these Aigo mids.

hordeman 2010-12-31 20:26

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
I did some more research, and unfortunately, support is pretty much dead for these devices. :(

cstryon 2011-09-27 16:41

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
So I'm rummaging through this thread for a great NIT successor. Any new information? Considering an Android tablet, but having trouble finding something similar to the n810 as far as size, keyboard, etc... So has anyone moved on to another device? Which one?

speculatrix 2011-09-27 22:43

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
HTC desire Z; rooted; with debian image you can chroot into.

works for me. a 16GB samsung class 6 uSDHC card holds everything I need, giving me a 2.5GB debian arm partition, a 512MB swap, and lots of room for data files.

FRZ 2011-11-02 16:15

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moja (Post 841260)
I agree. My tired eyes would appreciate a screen tthat is about the size of the entire N800 face. Maybe 5.5 inches diagonal.

The Galaxy Note will be your thing then http://www.samsung.com/global/micros...html?type=find. Me on the other hand I'm more leaning towards the Sharp Lynx mention in the quote below.


Quote:

Originally Posted by lma (Post 840760)
The Sharp Lynx SH-10B looks quite promising, provided the OS can be replaced with a sane distro and the device ever manages to reach the western hemisphere.


Snoshrk 2011-11-04 14:47

Re: Is there anything comparable to the N810?
 
I've replaced my N800 with a Rooted Nook Color running the latest CM7 Nightly. Currently overclocked to 1100Mhz.

It is a bit larger than the N800 at 7" but I still find it quite portable.

The biggest plus for me is that you can get one for under $200, and soon (when B&N announces the NC2) it will be significantly under.


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