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cenwesi 2010-07-26 11:58

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
i will wait for FFC before i jump ship.

SavageD 2010-07-26 16:06

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Samsung GS is for simple users. Key points always stated when using the Samsung GS

1) The screen is amazing :O

2) It's Lag less

3) Works almost like the iphone / it is the iphone...(lmao)

4) I can synch with x

5) There's so many apps to download

6) Again the screen looks amazing

Simple users often repeat the above lines in an endless loop.


As for the N900, it's for Developers, techies, hackers. Definitely not for simple users. If you want to do more than simply downloading an app an use it, you get the n900. Not to mention that nokia at this point in time is about to steal both the iphone and android market. I have no doubt that when the ovi store opens, there'd be some pleasant surprises.

If you want customize your phone to its lowest levels; multi boot many useful operating systems; Make custom scripts for your phone; Experiment, program wise etc...(honestly the possibilities are endless) then you stay with the n900. The n900 is truely a portable computer. Not to mention the array of free applications you'd otherwise have to pay for on both the android and i phones.

And with the many great advancements happening with nitdroid, the n900 (more or less) has the entire android market (and more) in it's hands.

hollow 2010-08-02 00:49

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
well savageD you said it " when the ovi store opens" probably never and again with the advancements of nit droid ,this also probably wont happen for the n900 ,why ? because of the hardware in the n900 and no support from nokia .

lets face it by the time something amazing happens for the n900 the phone will be old and outdated . it almost is now

me i sold mine and yes i bought a galaxy s ,well actually i bought 2

not for the apps ,as i hate the iphone ,just the fact that the screen quality is amazing and all the things you want to customize on your n900 but cant ,its all there waiting for you with android

me il never buy a nokia phone again ,they just turn their back on you once they have your cash

SavageD 2010-08-02 03:32

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hollow (Post 772510)
well savageD you said it " when the ovi store opens" probably never and again with the advancements of nit droid ,this also probably wont happen for the n900 ,why ? because of the hardware in the n900 and no support from nokia .

lets face it by the time something amazing happens for the n900 the phone will be old and outdated . it almost is now

me i sold mine and yes i bought a galaxy s ,well actually i bought 2

not for the apps ,as i hate the iphone ,just the fact that the screen quality is amazing and all the things you want to customize on your n900 but cant ,its all there waiting for you with android

me il never buy a nokia phone again ,they just turn their back on you once they have your cash

I'm not looking for an argument but just wanted to say this...

Everything eventually becomes old and outdated, whats gonna happen to the galaxy s when the yr turns around...5 months from now? The n900 has been out for like 6 or 7 months, and yea its true, nokia sucks arse, but I'm not exactly a fan of any phone company.

As I said before the Galaxy S is mainly for simple users, as for my self, I am currently a student learning programming. I bought the n900 for it's potential, it's openness and its hackery. Also its much easier to write my own programs for this device, and that alone is plenty a reason for me to keep it.

If I bought the samsung galaxy s, I'd probably be happy with it too, however I'm anything but an average phone user and I'm very happy with my n900. So no harm no foul :).

lee0125 2010-08-02 03:39

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
I have just got a unit of this SGS for my wife, damn, this thing is too fast compare with my N900. Especially while installing software from android market compare to installing software from N900 application manager, unbelievable.

F2thaK 2010-08-02 03:53

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
nice phone, but its a samsung !! aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrhhh

imperiallight 2010-08-02 04:00

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Not a single post on the Galaxy S Pro or Epic?

I sure hope the device looks like this:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ylf3E9usps...laxy-S-Pro.jpg
Not this:
http://www.droiddog.com/wp-content/u...alaxysdhos.jpg

But it will certainly look like the latter.

ETA August 20th I think I read somehwere.

F2thaK 2010-08-02 04:02

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
bottom one looks okay

I like the 5 row keyboard

gerbick 2010-08-02 04:26

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
That Galaxy S Pro is a bad Photoshop of the current Galaxy S on top of the Inbrics MID M1. Here's an original picture of that Inbrics mobile internet device.

imperiallight 2010-08-17 19:17

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Anyone seen this? The ipod Galaxy S...

http://blog.gsmarena.com/4-inch-gala...icy-necessary/

http://blog.gsmarena.com/pics//10/08...marena_003.jpg

railroadmaster 2010-08-18 23:39

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f2thak (Post 772607)
nice phone, but its a samsung !! aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrhhh

Your point. Samsung makes pretty amazing hardware example HTC Desire, Google Nexus One, and HTC Droid Incredible all use Amoled displays made by Samsung I wouldn't be surprised if the Nokia n8 has a display made by Samsung. The A4 processor in the iPad and iPhone 4 is made by Samsung. Many people have TV's made from Samsung and even if you don't have a Samsung TV it is very likely that TV has components from Samsung. Samsung is also
the second largest manufacturer of cellphones. So what makes it bad if it is a Samsung Phone? What would make the device any better if it was created by Nokia, Rim, HTC, Motorola, Lg, or anyone else?

Capt'n Corrupt 2010-12-23 01:15

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Boom
http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/22/s...reaching-dist/

Samsung is on track to sell 10M Galaxy S phones this year. That's an extremely *large* number.

eachna 2010-12-23 02:13

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
I wanted one of these and am still lusting after the Nexus S (the "vanilla" model selling through Best Buy).

Unfortunately the Nexus S is plagued by the same GPS issues as the other models. That was the dealbreaker for me -- I "need" working GPS on my phone because I get lost very easily.

The screens are gorgeous, two of my co-workers have these phones and they draw the eye from across the cubicles (in a good way).

Kangal 2010-12-23 04:02

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roguespy0 (Post 764062)
OI just installed psx (playstation)emulator on my vibrant, it flies with no lag. The phone is awesome for gaming, was playing metal gear solid and mortal combat 4. I am enjoying the vibrant, I rooted it and now just waiting on custom roms. If anyone is looking for a new device, I recommended the galaxy s. I still enjoy using my n900 but the vibrant is my primary.

Stop spreading lies. Everyone knows psx4droid doesn't support metal gear solid, zodTT said it would take a while until he can get it working, duh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by U.ser (Post 757087)
Seriously .. captivate ROCKS! dunno why they gave us that shitty GSM version .. it's damn ugly !

Vibrant < Facsinate < GSM < Epic4G < CAPTIVATE !

No nono no

EPIC 4G > Captivate > SGS I9000 > Vibrant > Fascinate > Galaxy Tab
best features - best build - has front cam - developers - least favored - 7in is too large for phone/too small for portable computing (tablet)


Quote:

Originally Posted by eachna (Post 902503)
I wanted one of these and am still lusting after the Nexus S (the "vanilla" model selling through Best Buy).

Unfortunately the Nexus S is plagued by the same GPS issues as the other models. That was the dealbreaker for me -- I "need" working GPS on my phone because I get lost very easily.

The screens are gorgeous, two of my co-workers have these phones and they draw the eye from across the cubicles (in a good way).

Oh really? I thought it had 0 GPS issues.

Btw I own both I9000 and an iPhone 4 and I can tell you the iPhone 4 screen is better. Why?
1) It is glass so swiping your finger is actually smoother. This isn't subjective, it is actually smoother try it.
2) The touchscreen is much more responsive on the iPhone 4 (this may be Samsung's shoddy software, but still a big issue).
3) The i4 is more visible in sunlight because it is Transflective, visibly brighter (more nits). SAMOLED is bang-smack between the Nexus One and the iPhone 4 for outdoor performance.
4) The i4 has a matte screen while the SGS has a blue-glossy screen. In the dark, the SGS screen looks better and vibrant than the i4. In the sun the i4 leaves the SGS in the dust.
4) The extremely sharp resolution helps things look crisp. The SGS also has a sharp resolution but when looked at a little closer things look cloudy because of the pentile arrangement of the pixels.

I wish with the SAMOLED2 they could have the traditional 4dot-pixel instead of the pentile, increase the transflectivity, use a more powerful backlighting, use a matte finish on a (gorilla) glass screen.
These will take its toll on the cost of manufactoring, and make it less effecient, but in the end it will be worth it.
Take the best of IPS and the best of AMOLED!

eachna 2010-12-23 04:43

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 902526)

Oh really? I thought it had 0 GPS issues.

Btw I own both I9000 and an iPhone 4 and I can tell you the iPhone 4 screen is better. Why?
1) It is glass so swiping your finger is actually smoother. This isn't subjective, it is actually smoother try it.
2) The touchscreen is much more responsive on the iPhone 4 (this may be Samsung's shoddy software, but still a big issue).
3) The i4 is more visible in sunlight because it is Transflective, visibly brighter (more nits). SAMOLED is bang-smack between the Nexus One and the iPhone 4 for outdoor performance.
4) The i4 has a matte screen while the SGS has a blue-glossy screen. In the dark, the SGS screen looks better and vibrant than the i4. In the sun the i4 leaves the SGS in the dust.
4) The extremely sharp resolution helps things look crisp. The SGS also has a sharp resolution but when looked at a little closer things look cloudy because of the pentile arrangement of the pixels.

I wish with the SAMOLED2 they could have the traditional 4dot-pixel instead of the pentile, increase the transflectivity, use a more powerful backlighting, use a matte finish on a (gorilla) glass screen.
These will take its toll on the cost of manufactoring, and make it less effecient, but in the end it will be worth it.
Take the best of IPS and the best of AMOLED!

One of the co-workers has a Nexus S and one has the one through TMobile (Fascinate? Vibrant? I forget the name right now). Both have flaky GPS. Maybe co-worker #1 was just unlucky. But the last I heard Samsung was refusing returns/repairs on the phones if the GPS was bad saying "it's not a defect".

As far as the screen, why would I buy an iPhone? I loathe Apple's crappy products.

I've played with both the co-workers Samsung phones and read ebooks on both screens (that's my standard for pixel quality) in the dark. Neither is "fuzzy" at reading range. The true black background is fantastic.

I work nights, in a dark room. So I don't know what the Samsung screen looks like in full sunlight. I do know transreflective is nice. But, it's not always a matter of the hardware. The Samsung screen is gorgeous (and it has good storage, memory, processor, etc). And, it runs Android (which is reasonably although not fully "open"). The iPhone 4 may (or may not) have better hardware, I don't bother to pay really close attention to Apple products. But, it's secured down in a locked garden and I'm not paying for that. Yes, I "could" jailbreak the iPhone but why bother? It still tells Apple their customers agree with their official policy of controlling how someone can use their own phone.

In any case, I have a n900, the screen is already trans-reflective, and I really enjoy my phone. Granted Maemo is only "sorta open" but I can always hope Intel will keep things more open for Meego.

Kangal 2010-12-23 12:00

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eachna (Post 902540)
I loathe Apple's crappy products.

I was just trying to let you know that on paper the SAMOLED screen seems superior. Which is the reason I bought the SGS.

But on hand, it is not as great as the one as the iPhone 4, which was a gift. In fact I'd say it is on par with the Droid X/slightly better than Milestone.

I just want the SAMOLED technology without the pentile and with better outdoor visibility, it was so close to perfection !

Capt'n Corrupt 2010-12-23 13:25

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 902526)
Stop spreading lies. Everyone knows psx4droid doesn't support metal gear solid, zodTT said it would take a while until he can get it working, duh!

Take your own advice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCrs2HsPjU
Your credibility is in serious question.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 902526)
No nono no

EPIC 4G > Captivate > SGS I9000 > Vibrant > Fascinate > Galaxy Tab
best features - best build - has front cam - developers - least favored - 7in is too large for phone/too small for portable computing (tablet)

Seriously?! This is pure opinion.. Do you think you hold a monopoly on the 'truth'?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 902526)
4) The i4 has a matte screen while the SGS has a blue-glossy screen. In the dark, the SGS screen looks better and vibrant than the i4. In the sun the i4 leaves the SGS in the dust.

What?!

cheve 2010-12-27 03:37

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 902810)
Take your own advice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCrs2HsPjU
Your credibility is in serious question.




Seriously?! This is pure opinion.. Do you think you hold a monopoly on the 'truth'?

What?!

With this many variants, it is really confusing:-( and it appears to be impossible to get one with both physical keyboard(Epic) and front camera(I9000). Also it seems some of them come with 8GB instead of 16GB. Is that correct??? Do you or anyone has a link or something to compare all the features among them. I looked at the Samsung webpages and it did not really explain things clearly.

cheers,

Capt'n Corrupt 2010-12-27 11:10

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheve (Post 904987)
With this many variants, it is really confusing:-( and it appears to be impossible to get one with both physical keyboard(Epic) and front camera(I9000). Also it seems some of them come with 8GB instead of 16GB. Is that correct??? Do you or anyone has a link or something to compare all the features among them. I looked at the Samsung webpages and it did not really explain things clearly.

cheers,

I have no idea. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

Here's the thing. I was chatting with a colleague that works for RIM (yes, he has a playbook). He was explaining the design iterations for a recent blackberry device that has come under some fire in the media. Apparently, the device specs prior to release were quite different than the actual device at release based on carrier intervention.

It would appear that in the end, US carriers have a huge say in how a device ends up -- quality and specs. This likely explains the number of the Galaxy S variants and other phones from other manufacturers as well. This may also hint at why Nokia has never been 'big' in the US as it seems that they don't seem to tailor their devices specifically to carriers.

So in the end, look to individual carriers for answers.

I would love to see a day when the cellular modem is modularized out of the handset in an easy-to-insert micro-sd-like card under the battery. In this utopia, phones become generic devices that can be used freely in any situation.

tso 2010-12-30 14:45

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 905176)
I would love to see a day when the cellular modem is modularized out of the handset in an easy-to-insert micro-sd-like card under the battery. In this utopia, phones become generic devices that can be used freely in any situation.

Meh, just get a bluetooth capable dumbphone and a matching pocket sized PMP (or maybe a mifi and a PMP, if your carrier is anal about tethering).

Capt'n Corrupt 2010-12-30 15:26

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 907614)
Meh, just get a bluetooth capable dumbphone and a matching pocket sized PMP (or maybe a mifi and a PMP, if your carrier is anal about tethering).

Indeed, a usable solution today. Still, it's somewhat less convenient than having the radio in the device (eg. an extra device to charge and carry), also potentially more expensive in the short run (depending on the device purchased -- of course). But it indeed works!

For example, I don't own a 3G device. I've considered getting a MiFi (or the Canadian equivalent) and an Archos 70, but the cost ends up being similar to the Galaxy Tab ($550) for lesser hardware and less convenience than an all-in-one pick up and go tablet.

The benefit of this setup is that you can use the MiFi for more than just the tablet device (ie. a laptop) which is quite compelling. Of course, you can do this with a 3G device as well, and even use USB tethering to improve battery life.

tso 2010-12-30 16:08

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Main thing about a removable radio is that one also need a antenna that has the right size and such for the frequencies involved.

Capt'n Corrupt 2010-12-30 16:50

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tso (Post 907677)
Main thing about a removable radio is that one also need a antenna that has the right size and such for the frequencies involved.

Very interesting point. I wonder if it's possible to have an antenna with transistors along it that effectively control its length.

Perhaps some type of fractal antenna may provide a cross section for different frequency radios. Finding such a pattern would be very interesting.

I wonder why fractal antennas are not more common in mobile devices.

Kangal 2011-01-13 08:58

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 902810)
Take your own advice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrCrs2HsPjU
Your credibility is in serious question.

OMG Thank you a billion. As soon as psx4droid was released I gave MGS a go and it didn't work. Several people also stated the same thing (*sigh) and then somewhere zodtt himself said it isn't supported but that he will try to get it working later on.
I've got v1.61 and its still not working.

Maybe its my BIOS or I just need a different ROM (jp version or better quality eng).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 902810)
Seriously?! This is pure opinion.. Do you think you hold a monopoly on the 'truth'?

Yepp! Haha.
But of course its pure opinion, I mean some people think the iPhone 3GS is better than the iPhone4 and that may be correct from their perspective.
I thought the EPIC 4G was the best because it had the LED flash, ffcam and a QWERTY. The Captivate has the best design and the Next-G radio frequency. International model has the ffcam and easy to play around with. Vibrant has a huge community. Fascinate and the others not so much (CDMA bwelh!) and the Galaxy Tab I don't like because its 7 inches (like all guys, the bigger the better ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 902810)
What?!

The screen of the iPhone 4 is gorilla-glass (like) but it is glass and has a smooth coating. Most android devices inc SGS don't have this so you have a little more friction when you slide your finger (it is not a hinderance, but when you try the Apple your finger glides with ease ... just wishing my Samsung could get that build quality!

cheve 2011-01-13 14:15

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
For those have SGS here, what app/ROM do(could) you use to allow:

Answering phone(via the speaker)WHILE viewing notes or web at the same time on the SGS?

I do not think SGS/Android can do 'unlimited' multi-tasking like the N900, I am looking for some limited hack.

Cheers,

Kangal 2011-01-14 04:21

Re: Samsung Galaxy S
 
Funny thing I was looking for the same thing but came empty handed.

Anyone know how, you can fill us in.
I guess you just have to answer the phone, hit the speaker function, hit Home ... hit the apps you just closed and hope you can start from the same spot*

*Eg: when in "Internet" App, hitting home and re-opening it gets you to the same place but even though it is completely unnecessary the app automatically refreshes the page (which is annoying because it always takes a while to render, especially in low coverage areas).
Other examples, some apps just start from the beginning ... which is really frustrating if you hadn't saved/was at a critical moment.

(android has some things better than the N900, but you just cant help love the things the N900 does great)


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