Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

I dunno, I don't think I've ever seen a "What's Better?" product thread that hasn't devolved into a mess.

What kind of results does a person expect on a forum that supports only one of the devices in question?

Also, could these two devices be any MORE different?


Geesh!:eek:

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

Add $480 to the difference should you need tethering support from ATT...

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

Are irrelevant.

What do YOU want in a device? Why would YOU chose either one.

I could see enjoying both, for different uses. Why should you care which features and uses I need in a device?

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

He already claims to have one at the head office,

look here------> http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...118#post735118

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

The reason why you should buy an iPhone 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26ELpS3Wc4Q it does phone sex oh wait I can do that on a Nokia.

Re: nokia n900 or I phone 4g?
 

Thanks for the corrections, noipv4. I've updated the comparison.

Yes, the N900 RAM is 256MB not 256kB. The iPhone's is 512MB. Marketing people sometimes quote a higher figure for the N900 by including its swap space, but that's not RAM.

You're right about the microphone too. There's just one. I can't believe that all the time I've had my N900, I thought the strap slot was the hole for a second microphone!

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

Grok is spot-on. This thread needs closing. The OP hasn't even posted a single reply. It's just a wind up.

What do losers like this get out of this kind of behaviour? Probably down to some form of personality disorder, as yet undiagnosed, although personality disorders are notoriously difficult to treat anyway and so these people just go through life pissing everyone off they come into contact with. Many people with personality disorders are not even aware of their condition.

Hey disappointed - get some help, dude!

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

there are better phones than the n900, but if your seriously looking at an iphone, I hope you don't have the real need for smart phone capability, because the iphone lacks that.

1. apple apps can get expensive, n900 apps are free.
2. the new iphone has quality issues, don't ever expect apple to take responsibility for quality issues, they never do, instead they have a leigon of fan boys to downplay them.
3. iTunes. It sucks hard. Its hard to find anything, it doesn't automatically update folders, runs slow, and eats more system resources it should. But, apple products are designed to not work unless sync'd with iTunes. Great...I made the mistake of buying an ipod once....never again.
4. Functionality. For the basic device sort of functionality like a shell and coreutils, you need a bit of hacking to be done, combined with how awkward that on screen keyboard is... Sure, if your idea of an app is paying $5 for drink recipes, or some obnoxious cute ****, its fine.

5. Freedom. When you buy any apple product, you buy into the apple universe of rules and regulations. First and foremost is that Steve Jobs is always right, and you may only use your apple device how he says. Lets say someone else writes better software to replace itunes on your PC(like winamp did), your iphone will find out and stop working if you use it. Apps get denied because apple doesn't like the content. Apps can only be written on a Macintosh. Apps cost money, and installing apps not specifically written for the iphone is prohibited.

6. Fanyboyism. There is no worthwhile apple community, apple users contribute nothing, and the company does it all, and charges you. You'll be expected to uphold the companies mantras and hide their epic failures and mistakes.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

From GSMArena (about iOS4):
What’s new:

Homescreen wallpapers
Folder organization of the homescreen icons
Multitasking and fast app switching
Google/Wikipedia search in Spotlight
Bluetooth keyboard pairing support
SMS character counter
SMS search
Email threading
Unified Email inbox
Email archiving is now available when you setup Gmail
Spell checker
iPod music player can now create, edit and delete playlists
5x digital zoom in still camera
Touch-focus in video capture (for video enabled iPhones)
Keyboard layouts span over QWERTY, QWERTZ, and AZERTY
Minor icon design facelifts
Video call support (only in iPhone 4 and only over Wi-Fi)
iBooks e-book and PDF reader

What’s still missing:

No Flash support in the web browser
No true multitasking for all applications
iOS4 for iPhone 3G has limited new feature set
Poor performance on iPhone 3G
No quick toggles for Wi-Fi, Bluetooth or 3G
No social networking integration
No info widgets on lockscreen or homescreen
SMS tones are still not customizable
No mass mark emails as read
No proper file browser or access to the file system
No USB mass storage mode
No vibration feedback when touching the screen
No Bluetooth file transfers to other mobile phones
Contacts lack a swipe-to-delete or mass delete feature
No SMS/MMS delivery notifications
No smart dialing (but Spotlight is a somewhat of a substitute)
No DivX or XviD video support and no official third-party application to play that
The whole iPhone is too dependent on iTunes - you cannot add the same type of content (video, photos, apps) to the phone from two computers, a regular file management interface would have been much better

In other words it's only now become a smartphone. Sort of.
[insert my phone can make phone calls joke here]

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

@GI Jack: I think many of your claims are not accurate based on Apple's past track record and publicly available information.

1. The same apps that exist on Apple's AppStore and Ovi Store almost always priced lower on the AppStore (most likely due to economy of scale). Case in point: apps by Roxio.

2. Yeah, new iPhone has got plenty of problems and rumors surrounding it and it's still a wait and see at this point as to what's the final resolution will be given, if any. But Apple has a known track record of good technical support (They generally just swap your defective product with a new one on the spot, if it's within the warranty period). They also give brand new parts (batteries) on recalls and/or prolong warranty periods when necessary (NVIDIA GPU recall).

3. If you were to talk about iTunes' modularity or bloatedness then I'd agree with you. But 'finding stuff' is probably one of its strenght. There's a clear search box on the top left all the time and all of your media are cross indexed for easy searching.

4. For most people, 'basic functionality' means full functional email client, PIM (contacts, calendar, notes, todo) and whatnot. For *nix administration, I'll give it to N900. But for 'basic smartphone functionality' in the popular-human sense, just about any other smartphone beats maemo unfortunately.

5. Interesting interpretation, but I think you've spiced things up just a tad much ;)

6. Yes, I haven't seen any fanboyism here.
At all.
Really :)

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

I like how fanboys are unique to Apple

Re: nokia n900 or I phone 4g?
 

get simple mobile for n900 it runs via t mobile

its prepaid service (authorized by t mobile) however its only UNLIMITED based.

40$ card you can buy in store or with credit card and re fill

- unlimited minutes
-unlimited sms

50$

unlimited minutes
unlimited sms + global sms
web 150mb i belevie

60$

unlimited minutes
unlimited sms + global sms
unlimited web

i think those are all good deals depending on what you use

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

This kind of attitude is going to kill the next device as well. Keep at it.

Issues? Would you like to name a few?

The iphone partially came out of the success of the ipods.

You are talking about basic device sort of functionality on an n900 forum? Get out of here

How was Woodstock this year?

There is no worthwhile apple community? There are many and the users contribute to the largest mobile appstore at 200, 000 apps. At least get your facts right fanboy.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

I vote this to be the best trolling/windup thread I've seen here in a while!

*Thread Starter made the one post and just enjoys the show
*Anyone can see there is no answer that will satisfy all
*Question guarantees conflict
*Truly a waste of bandwidth

*Insincere at best

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

True (and thus reported), but there are some pretty good posts to be found here between the fanboy-anti-fanboy wars, so despite the original intent of this thread I'm not sure this is really such a big waste of bandwidth.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But I can't imagine choosing between them!
They're.......so........different!:D

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

Neither can I... :D

But there are lots of people out there who don't know that, yet, and despite it originally being a trolling thread, there are some rather helpful posts in here to make realising the difference between the two easier for those not yet familiar with both devices.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

I'd choose neither right now. One is end of life basically, the other is having some serious reception problems for quite a few.

Windup or not, people will ask this question a lot.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

I find the answer really simple (depending on what the user expects or wants). The N900 can only be recommended to a small subset of people out there.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

take the iphone.... sell it for 999$ or more.... buy the n900 for 500$ and with the monney u earn u can play your contract....

this is the way i would do it...

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

The iPhone can be bought for $599 USD or so, and the N900 has been sold for $379 or less as of late.

Not sure if I'm following your logic.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

He's saying "Buy the iphone on contract, sell it for a profit... then you'll have enough money to buy n900 at msrp... and with the remainder of the profit you can pay for your iphone contract..."

Sounds like a scalper with a big miscalculation issue to me.

I thought the AT&T contract adds up to over $2k over the contract period.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

Yeah. It would've made more sense to buy the iPhone unlocked, resell for profit.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

Then you'd need to be in Europe and not in the US. They sell it unlocked there.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

Playing devil's advocate... but seriously. If you're going to use a phone for 2 years in the US, what's the price of any data enabled phone on a 3G (or higher) network versus the contract price?

Either way, you're going to have a bill for voice and data.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

@gerbick: right, the correct calculation would just take into account the premium that AT&T charges for iPhone users...

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

AT&T charges everybody a premium.

I'm on a family plan with two phones, I get a corporate discount, one is an iPhone, one is a data-less phone. I average $103 per month. That's $79.99 for the primary phone (1400 w/ rollover minutes), $30 unlimited data (I'm grandfathered), $9.99 for the other line, $5 200 SMS package on the iPhone. After all of the 911 tariffs, et al... and my 23% discount.

I've been with AT&T in one form or fashion for 15 years. So... out of contract, in contract doesn't really affect me. Unlocked phones are good for the carrier nomads... and in the US, unlocked means very few companies with widespread coverage or local yocal companies that will cover your county... and that's about it.

And most people here only list the single price(s) for phones. I can't be the only person with two lines.

And I got some more research to do. T-Mobile would have saved me about 12-18 a month, Verizon was about the same. Sprint... was more expensive. And with all of the above, I'd have to buy an expensive phone whereas I get my iPhone(s) for free.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

nokia 3310. it works just fine.

or n900. you can do more without paying more.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

Got numbers? I'm in the US and want a phone with 3G access, not 2G.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

i dont see a misscalculation....

here in austia (europe) a new iphone 4g costs about 1000€ when you buy it from a private person.... and about 1400€ when you buy it from a online shop....
and i got my n900 in january (rel day in mid.eur) for 510€

so there are still 490€ left to pay the contract....

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

Back on topic. Type in engadget.com on your n900. Now go into the apple store and type the same on iphone 4. haha... FAIL.

Re: Nokia N900 or iPhone 4g?
 

You can't buy it unlocked in the USA?

If your with TMobile you can get pretty cheap plans with an unlocked phone. Granted they don't have great coverage outside cities and well traveled areas on the East Coast.