Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

The thread "port iOS" (3 posts) has been merged into this thread.

Re: Any chance to port iOS4 ?!
 

Apple does not use Linux at all.
Mac OSX is BSD Unix.

Linux is a ground-up cleanroom implementation of the POSIX (UNIX) standard.

iOS is something else altogether and as far as I know, 100% closed source.

Different source code and different licensing... you will not see iOS running on anything, but Apple products.

(Edit: Funny... there were two replies when I hit the "reply" button. The threads were merged before I hit "submit")

Re: port iOS
 

"Apple" isn't linux.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

^ Yes Sir.. Its a Fruit ! :D !

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

it should be done just to prove that the Nokia N900 even works better and faster with iOS than an IPhone does

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Why would I want to become an iLoser hurr durr

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

"Dear Mr. Jobs, could you please let me have the full source code for iOS so that I can recompile it for my Nokia N900 phone. If there are any issues, I hope you won't mind me contacting a few technical specialists at Apple to help me sort them out.

Thanks very much, hope you're feeling better soon."


There you go. We shall expect the code to be posted up here shortly....

<sigh> :-/

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Only real good thing about iphone is the apps, and since the majority need a capactive multi touch screen they would all need to be reconfigured for the resisitive non multi touch n900 screen. Even if you could get the iOS ported it wouldn't be as good as on the original iOS devices

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

I looked into this even though I have no skill. I turned several of my computers int hackintoshes. so I thought iOS might be possible.

Here are the problems I remember (it's been several months so this is bound to be off):
1. A whole lotta closed source.
2. Tightly controlled hardware. This is one of the big deals because apparently MacOSX uses kernel extensions to kind of load drivers, but since iOS is designed to run on just a handful of different components they were able to put it in the kernel without all the kexts. Or something. Hopefully you read my earlier disclaimer about not knowing much at all about the nuts and bolts.
3. ARM and Darwin. Apparently there are only a handul of people on the world who have the expertise to do this. Apparently they all work for Apple.

I think there were other reasons. As for the peope who ask, "Why downgrade your phone?" They are completely missing the point. Why climb a mountain? Because it's there.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Wow, I think after scrolling through this, I'm done with this forum. The N900 is overhyped and it's due to some of the people here, the same people who degrade iOS. Alright, so it can slowly run The Gimp and Open Office, burn through a battery in three hours if you use 3G web browsing for more than 14 minutes a day, month old OEM battery by the way, and graphically perform worse than a Blackberry. Quite a winner.

This thing use to be my dream phone, but the more I use it, the more I hate it, mainly for how good it could have been.

Comments like "Apple isn't linux". Stupid. I hate Apple and their overpriced, overrated products, but I wouldn't say something like that.

Maybe if a MeeGo 1.2+ port comes along, I'll come back to the N900, but I'm gonna ditch it for something else.

Back on point here, gotta love 60% of members who bash people asking for WP7, Symbian, iOS, Android, etc etc. Yeah, it really sucks having more OSes.

Later.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Rather than porting the iOs, we should spend our time writing a guide for how to port their apps to Qt/Maemo and send it to all apps developers.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Hang on. Although you're right that sometimes this forum has its fanboys (don't all forums?) the person who said that "Apple isn't Linux" was just trying to correct the person who previously erroneously said "Since apple is linux, maemo is too, and android also", i.e. they were trying to let someone know that iOS isn't based on Linux, which seems fair enough to me. They weren't making a judgement.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

But maybe....
http://apple.shawnliv.com/index.php/ios-4-cydia-source/
And if not:
If I install jailbroken iOS by iTunes to a MicroSD and...
add an entry in bootloader
it could run!

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

I... I can't even begin to say what is wrong with this post. But if you want to attempt to do this then good luck.







I hope you're a troll and you're not being serious

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Arrrrrgh! Why is this thread still alive!? :( :(
Die thread, die!!

Apple is cool... But iOS on N900... Hell no!!

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Mordern day equivalent of creating Frankenstein!!!

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

why not iOS on N900?lets just prove N900 expanded abilities ..
i hope developers gonna take a look at it ,soon
it is not about apple,in the end it is gonna be N900 who will be playing all ( maemo linux + android + meego + iOs + mac ) in one ..
lets roll it

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Because it's stupidly improbable to happen.
We don't have any source, we have very little information on how the bootloader for it work.
We don't have access to the kernel. The toolchain is for macs, linux has a few but they're very limited. The drivers would be so hard to do.


This is never going to happen.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

N900 is just the way it should be with Linux... Fun! Open! OURS!
Screw all this closed source *****!!

(yes, I see my signature says I have an iPad and MBP - hypocritical - maybe)

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Surely it would be best just to buy an apple device that is optimized for ios?
That's like buying an f1 car and then taking the engine out and putting in a rotary pedal from a bike.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

what about apple apps then ? should or shouldnt be ported to N900 ?
what about players which can directly play video sites ?
what about flash player ? or software like i-swifter ?
what about medical apps?
every idea is a beginning to set a new era ,just appreciate the idea though later on we may decide whether it is portable or not ..
keep up the good work

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Please educate yourself on what porting an application means, what it involves and what the prerequisites are.

You cannot take a binary app from one device and 'port' it to make it magically work on another, completely different one.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Get yourself a iphone if the n900 is not for you, i like maemo still :D

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

I just want to show my friends that n900's superior :)
If you would be able to find where the kernel is (for example /boot/ios-kernel) so
1. we install it with itunes to a microsd
2. we add an entry to an bootloader (DO NOT ADD IT IT'S JUST AN IDEA) for example
3. our friends tell: "Oh f*ck, why did I spend a lot of money for iPhone" :D

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

You are, in fact, a prankster.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Lmao ..never intended to hurt any one's eyes ,beside that i do feel N900 is best ever machine ,atleast to me .iphone is boring or i would have bought it cuz i bought my N900 three months ago ,it just that i miss some great great applications ,what i quoted above was right and hopefully we will have those iOs apps one day ,soon
do you think if there is any problem asking for an apps like ( i-swifter ) or ( quicktime player ) which can run video sites smoothly and act as proxy at the same time ..
come on dude ! lets be honest with yourself ,i am missing these apps ,if you dont then no need to get emotional ..it is all about apps in the end ,and good apps ..and for the record i love maemo more than any OS on the world ..dont get me wrong anyway

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

NO, now close this stupid thread.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

I dont see any stupidity in it. As far as pinto in farari is concerned... well Then get us iphone 4g or 5g os. I think Developers should give a serious thought about it. After all, althout, no one uses still having win98 on n900 gives a great satisfaction feeling.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

Running iOS on the n900 is possible. But not without an awful lot of work, and inside access to the full iOS source code (I'm not sure if anyone has that!). After all, Apple ported OSX to run on Intel PCs, and the N900 has at least the same architecture as the iPhone (ARM).
That said, a few things stand in the way. For example, the fact that the N900 has a resistive screen - which means multitouch applications (which most iOS apps are) wouldn't run properly. Also, the hardware buttons - the N900 has a hardware keyboard, which it may be possible to make drivers for (there are after all external keyboards for the iPad), but no good candidate for a "home" button. Finally, apps which depend on any hardware functions (like the camera) would probably not work.
If anyone here works at Apple, has access to the iOS source code, an N900 and a lot of time on there hands, doesn't mind getting fired and probably sued, and is an expert coder, by all means do the port! With computers, nothing is impossible. But it is EXTREMELY unlikely to happen.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

This thread gave me so much WHY. Okay, first. Drivers. OMAP3+SGX5. Check. Flash chip. Not NAND. NOPE. Touch digitizer. NOPE. BME. NOPE. Hardware buttons - remap GPIOs.

Also, Apple still hasn't released XNU patches for the iPhone.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

macuco is a N900 app which is extremely nice looking app ,feels like iphone experience , if iOS is not portable then lets just stick to apps ?
why not i-swifter ?
why not youku (chinese youtube) app ?
why not medical apps?
why not apps which trace other phone's gps positioning?
why not touch interface ?
stupidity is a hoax,crazy people think of others as they are crazy
N900 is nt dead yet ,so lets just say it is hard to port anything like that but the word '' impossible '' seems to me an insult to N900.
ciao

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

And if we extract it to ext3, find the kernel and add entry to multiboot?

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

how about NO?

we just need a fart app. :P

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

for all the pain and trouble this is going to cause, seriously - buy an iPhone. u'll be better off.

Re: Any chance to port iOS ?!
 

OK!
First: let's find a kernel.
Second: - let's write our own drivers!!! If I find a team, I'll be eager to write some drivers
Third: Run it!
Fourth: Let Steve Jobs burn us alive :DDD