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cfh11 2010-06-30 18:04
Re: MeeGo v1.1 is out now
 
Doesn't the OP have the ability to change the thread title himself?

vkv.raju 2010-06-30 18:14
Re: MeeGo v1.1 is out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 735846)
Doesn't the OP have the ability to change the thread title himself?
Sadly NO :(
I have requested the moderators to do the needful though.

cfh11 2010-06-30 18:16
Re: MeeGo v1.1 is out now
 
Hmmm... I am pretty sure that functionality is somewhere. I started a thread requesting it and sjgadsby told me it was already active....

EDIT: figured it out. Just edit your first post and change the title.

vkv.raju 2010-06-30 18:20
Re: MeeGo v1.1 is out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 735859)
Hmmm... I am pretty sure that functionality is somewhere. I started a thread requesting it and sjgadsby told me it was already active....

EDIT: figured it out. Just edit your first post and change the title.
You are right, I overlooked it. Just now changed the title...

fahadj2003 2010-06-30 18:21
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
this wont jus be the xterminal right?
coz i'm about to install it right now..
jus backing up my stuff
and can anyone confirm that if u restore a back up of contacts *IM based*, they'll be merged and connected to my IM accounts *yahoo and msn*?
its ****ing irritating to arrange them -__-

somekeystrokes 2010-06-30 18:27
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
im pretty sure of the fact tht if not any official update from nokia about meego on n900....thre surely ll be a fully functional meego image for n900.
The only diffrnce would be we ll have to install it ourslvs by downloading/flashing and all, and it ll not show up in the app manager as an update on the phone or anywhere on the nokia website tht it(n900) runs meego.

otherwise wat is the point trying it on n900 now as well..when they have the aava phone to test it?
why to have n900 name in the supported hardware list even for a pre-release, i mean why to relate meego with n900 at all?

w00t 2010-06-30 18:27
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 735866)
this wont jus be the xterminal right?
coz i'm about to install it right now..
jus backing up my stuff
and can anyone confirm that if u restore a back up of contacts *IM based*, they'll be merged and connected to my IM accounts *yahoo and msn*?
its ****ing irritating to arrange them -__-
The n900 image is not ready. Wait.

cfh11 2010-06-30 18:28
Re: MeeGo v1.1 is out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vkv.raju (Post 735864)
You are right, I overlooked it. Just now changed the title...
Err... but this is still 1.0.8..... v1.1 is due in Q4 2010.

Spyker 2010-06-30 19:00
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
I strongly hope Nokia will remove this ugly and anti-ergonomic paradigm, which is the "long key press" (or "long touch") input they are currently using to display a contextual menu (that's what we see in the video). It's really hurting the user experience IMHO.

fahadj2003 2010-06-30 19:00
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by w00t (Post 735877)
The n900 image is not ready. Wait.
now where's the fun in that? :P
*still gonna do it* xD
*may lord be with me*

ivnvir 2010-06-30 19:11
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyker (Post 735933)
I strongly hope Nokia will remove this ugly and anti-ergonomic paradigm, which is the "long key press" (or "long touch") input they are currently using to display a contextual menu (that's what we see in the video). It's really hurting the user experience IMHO.
ok, but what's your idea/suggestion?

gerbick 2010-06-30 19:12
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Any success stories yet?

Lullen 2010-06-30 19:17
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyker (Post 735933)
I strongly hope Nokia will remove this ugly and anti-ergonomic paradigm, which is the "long key press" (or "long touch") input they are currently using to display a contextual menu (that's what we see in the video). It's really hurting the user experience IMHO.
No it is really awesome! :)

Rauha 2010-06-30 19:26
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Hating the new, Palm inspired, task switcher. Prettier but less usefull than the one on Maemo 5. Form>function. Seriously hope that there are alternative options for the card system.

http://meego.com/sites/all/files/ima...t-switcher.png

mrojas 2010-06-30 19:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 735967)
Hating the new, Palm inspired, task switcher. Prettier but less usefull than the one on Maemo 5. Form>function. Seriously hope that there are alternative options for the card system.

http://meego.com/sites/all/files/ima...t-switcher.png
From the leaked Harmattan UI info, you can switch between that and the Fremantle "live preview" task switcher.

Spyker 2010-06-30 19:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivnvir (Post 735945)
ok, but what's your idea/suggestion?
My suggestion is to use a button/icon instead. If you don't have the space to put the right icon or button on the screen, that's simply mean your UI is not well designed.
Even two short key presses are better than one long key press. The shorter is the time to access your feature, the better is the user experience, that's it !

fahadj2003 2010-06-30 19:30
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no success
"invalid FIASCO file header"
anyone know what this is?
thats the error i got when i tried to flash

benny1967 2010-06-30 19:31
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyker (Post 735970)
My suggestion is to use a button/icon instead. If you don't have the space to put the right icon or button on the screen, that's simply mean your UI is not well designed.
Even two short key presses are better than one long key press. The shorter is the time to access your feature, the better is the user experience, that's it !
none of your suggestions would work for a link in the browser. double-tap already zooming in/out, and you can't add a symbol without breaking the website.

godofwar424 2010-06-30 19:31
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I really want this dualbooted lyk NOW!! I hope we dont have to wait too long!

fahadj2003 2010-06-30 19:32
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cant dualboot, this is a rootfs image or whatever its called

godofwar424 2010-06-30 19:33
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fahadj2003 (Post 735979)
cant dualboot, this is a rootfs image or whatever its called
I mean when the actual image is up. Not the kickstart stuff. Also if you can dualboot ANDROID on the N900 via bootmenu.

Then I am sure (not certain) that you can dualboot this MeeGo release and Maemo.

Spyker 2010-06-30 19:36
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 735977)
none of your suggestions would work for a link in the browser. double-tap already zooming in/out, and you can't add a symbol without breaking the website.
You can choose to display a menu overlay by default, or to use gestures (or even multi-touch), they are still plenty other solutions.

Chrome 2010-06-30 19:39
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- N900 MeeGo image .ks should be available within an hour
- Media player is not yet integrated
- Cellular modems are not integrated yet
- Remaining apps will be moving to the open in the coming weeks
- this first MeeGo Handset image is not meant for end-users
- MeeGo Basics | MeeGo - http://bit.ly/dn2WdJ
- http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering is the starting page where all information related to Release Engineering would be published.

Source: #MeeGo-meeting IRC

cfh11 2010-06-30 19:41
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 735987)
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- Cellular modems are not integrated yet
Well I guess the race w/Nitdroid for feature-parity is still on!

Chrome 2010-06-30 19:47
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Also no battery charging in this release:

<DawnFoster> ANSWER (given to me out of channel): no, no battery charging for n900 in this release.

...boy 2010-06-30 19:47
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well... we were supposed to see something groundbreaking and unique, some extraordinary experience
if it is delivered... judge for yourself but for me it is just another OS for mobiles, I can see no reason to choose MeeGo Vs. any other OS on the market now

I afraid that the opportunity that we had is just lost

fatalsaint 2010-06-30 19:49
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ...boy (Post 736002)
well... we were supposed to see something groundbreaking and unique, some extraordinary experience
if it is delivered... judge for yourself but for me it is just another OS for mobiles, I can see no reason to choose MeeGo Vs. any other OS on the market now

I afraid that the opportunity that we had is just lost
Uh......

What?

kylepsp 2010-06-30 19:52
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 735987)
- N900 MeeGo image .ks should be available within an hour
- Media player is not yet integrated
- Cellular modems are not integrated yet
- Remaining apps will be moving to the open in the coming weeks
- this first MeeGo Handset image is not meant for end-users
- MeeGo Basics | MeeGo - http://bit.ly/dn2WdJ
- http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering is the starting page where all information related to Release Engineering would be published.

Source: #MeeGo-meeting IRC
Would you be able to send the modem stuff to dj_steve he could really use it! lol

...boy 2010-06-30 19:53
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 736004)
Uh......

What?
I know it may be tough comment done in faces of people emotinally related to Maemo / MeeGo (well... at least I am)

But I expected something extraoridynary (like MeeGo tablet UX is Vs other tablets)

and here we have just another OK OS

Honestly being an average consumer - hat is bettet in Meego handset UX Vs other OSs

juandp77 2010-06-30 19:56
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ...boy (Post 736012)
I know it may be tough comment done in faces of people emotinally related to Maemo / MeeGo (well... at least I am)

But I expected something extraoridynary (like MeeGo tablet UX is Vs other tablets)

and here we have just another OK OS

Honestly being an average consumer - hat is bettet in Meego handset UX Vs other OSs
this is pre-alfa release so we have to wait ti make final conclusions

fatalsaint 2010-06-30 19:56
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ...boy (Post 736012)
I know it may be tough comment done in faces of people emotinally related to Maemo / MeeGo (well... at least I am)

But I expected something extraoridynary (like MeeGo tablet UX is Vs other tablets)

and here we have just another OK OS

Honestly being an average consumer - hat is bettet in Meego handset UX Vs other OSs
With the exception of no phone-modem support.. this Alpha/Pre-release is pretty much exactly what I expected to see..

Spyker 2010-06-30 19:59
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ...boy (Post 736012)
I know it may be tough comment done in faces of people emotinally related to Maemo / MeeGo (well... at least I am)

But I expected something extraoridynary (like MeeGo tablet UX is Vs other tablets)

and here we have just another OK OS

Honestly being an average consumer - hat is bettet in Meego handset UX Vs other OSs
It's just a pre-alpha of the common UI design for the project... We have seen nothing yet. The Harmattan UI from Nokia may probably look quite different.

MNX1024 2010-06-30 20:00
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I just hope I can some how tri-boot Meego 1.1 with Maemo and Android(when dj_steve gets it to be fully functional).

Now, that would be awesome.

fahadj2003 2010-06-30 20:04
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can anyone tell me a workaround for 64bit and flasher3.5 issues?
i used up all the usb ports
a workaround or 30 min for fotmatting the pc

*edit
*formatting

Parody 2010-06-30 20:05
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MNX1024 (Post 736026)
I just hope I can some how tri-boot Meego 1.1 with Maemo and Android(when dj_steve gets it to be fully functional).

Now, that would be awesome.
The universe would explode.

cenwesi 2010-06-30 20:06
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lol, i am not even going to begin to comment on this... Android v3.0 will probably be out before Nokia and intel get meego out there. Sorry, but someone has to say it...

Chrome 2010-06-30 20:10
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#MeeGo-Meeting Full log here: http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-...18.59.log.html

You'll find a lot of useful information.

fahadj2003 2010-06-30 20:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MNX1024 (Post 736026)
I just hope I can some how tri-boot Meego 1.1 with Maemo and Android(when dj_steve gets it to be fully functional).

Now, that would be awesome.
not really impossible
if u can get a bigger memory card and create more partitions, it could work out

sjgadsby 2010-06-30 20:13
Re: MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cenwesi (Post 736040)
lol, i am not even going to begin to comment on this... Android v3.0 will probably be out before Nokia and intel get meego out there.
MeeGo has two fixed release dates per year. The next one is October.

On the other hand, Android 3 is rumored to already be in testing by various handset manufacturers with a release scheduled for "mid-2010". So, if those rumors are true, Android 3 should be available as a finished product to end users first, yes.

...boy 2010-06-30 20:14
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When you look at Harmattan concept of having desktop filled with “operational” widgets (widgets which allows you to have almost full functionality of a application right on a screen without going into app itself) it was something to wait for, something that was making the UI ultra functional
(slides 9 and 10) http://www.slideshare.net/peterschne...ogy-highlights
and now what have we got – just another UI, very similar to others

Being average consumer who just need ultra functional and practical but also very pleasant to operate and just nice UI, I can see no reason to choose MeeGo Vs. any other OS on the market now

Is the opportunity do change the handset market lost for Nokia ?

… or perhaps not ?– does anybody know if Harmattan UI will be implemented in Nokia version of MeeGo ???

ps. I believe 2 thereads about MeeeGo for handsets should be merged - it is difficult to follow both (as thay are both so active)


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