Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Yes. You get a choice of mobile or desktop mode, and in desktop you can create/edit to your heart's content.

Ithink GD's primarily intended for something other than document viewing. If that's all it did I don't think it would hold the interest it does.

But by all means, congratulations to the Android developers and all the folks at Google for achieving a partial resolution to that glaring, obvious shortcoming. Gold stars all around.

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Clearly http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?searchid=7898614
I don't know why you bought the N900, The only things you have talked about is 'Android' and 'how much you dislike Nokias'

Please move on quietly.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

So the problem is the size? The n900 is on the big side too

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

But these threads often generate some interesting comments and questions... and assuming there really is a sibling with an N900, why not let him vent? It's disappointing to spend a bunch of money and not have it meet your needs.

When I was making the decision to buy my N900 I read all these posts - good and bad - and they were very helpful. You aren't just buying a phone, you're joining a community. How a group treats its new users and trolls is important.

If I were employed by Nokia, I'd be keeping a list of what works and what doesn't - even if it isn't official feedback and even if it just goes into MeeGo.


Terry

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Okay!
And why did you have to share this with us?
I mean, okay, go for whatever you like, but why do you think we care?

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...re-o-meter.jpg

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Wow.. crazy! I got the same results when I read YOUR reply. :) Rant on, folks.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, you're completely right. What is wrong with it, however, are two things.

First of all, it is in the wrong place. Complaining about purchase of a product is fine, but you generally don't go and do it somewhere only tangentially related. As an example, if I bought a Dell PC, and it was a piece of crap, I'd generally go talk to Dell about a refund, or a repair, or whatever. I wouldn't go to a Dell end-user forum, regardless of whether or not there might be the occasional Dell employee from another division wandering around the same forum.

To move away from the example and back to the real world - maemo.org is not a Nokia feedback channel. It's an enthusiast community around (primarily Nokia) devices, and as such, the people here aren't likely to have a hugely enjoyable time on threads like these - and nor will the person posting originally - given that their feedback is not going in the right place, and as a result probably won't get the response they were looking for, if at all. (Of course, I'm assuming good faith here, but I'm a nice person.)

So: Nokia Care, Forum Nokia, Nokia Conversations, or any other official Nokia medium (perhaps best of all: physically writing to them) is likely to be a better option than venting frustrations on a random, tangentially related at best, internet forum.

Second of all, there is complaining, and there is constructive complaining. Going back to my earlier example, when I ring Dell and ask them for a refund, they're generally not going to take "your product is a piece of ****" as a reasonable reason to offer a refund (unless they are feeling really generous).

Again, back in the real world - the OP didn't really give any value to the subject he was writing about. "It's crap and I should have bought XXXX", while obviously paraphrased, is not far from the point of the original post - and obviously - is totally worthless, even to people who might be able to do something about it.

Thanks for your points, though.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

@1st post, why not post on a droid forum if youve switched os/phone then?

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w00t - you make an excellent case but in the real world I see this in most user forums (especially Dells!). With purchases of this kind, the only people who really feel your pain are likely to be in a user forum if they are anywhere at all.

I'm not sure why gadgets turn us into drooling fanboys or fangirls or can break our hearts when they don't live up to expectations. If people get tired of writing papers about Buffy or Star Trek, gadget addicts would make fascinating subjects. :-)

Terry

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

It's also a matter of noise. It clutters up the forum (there should be a rant section)

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

why would anyone buy a nexus one in june 2010 ...htc has better phones , just look at anandtech reviews , they clearly say the N1 has a buggy UI.

You could have bought an EVO and compare the products




useless

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

There are a lot of things as of late that I'd consider capable of cluttering these forums.

Fanboys, nasty attitudes, misinformed opinions... tip of the iceberg.

Only a return to helpful folks helping others and avoiding placing in unnecessary attitude will signal a way to unclutter this forum.

Ironic part? It takes an opinion to point out other other opinions. I guess I truly do miss the ITT days.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

I second a user experience feedback sub forum for such posts. I suggested it myself before.

The reply last time was that it would give new users the idea the product was crap...

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

If the OP said Samsung Galaxy S, I might actually understand.
- 4" Super AMOLED. ("Super" and 4" are the key points)
- It can play avi xvid and even 720p h264 mkv files natively.
- 720p video recording @ 30fps
- Has a better CPU and a dedicated GPU which N1 doesn't even have
- Due to that, it kills Desire/N1 in 3D games. About double the speed!
- It is also getting froyo update.

Nexus One? Oh come on. N1 isn't that special compared to N900.
OP, I recommend you to take the N1 back and get the Galaxy S.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Someone with apparently weak research techniques intends to buy a phone labelled "Google". Great news...

Sometimes i feel like Rod Taylor amongst a bunch of unreflective Eloi.

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off topic reply: the EVO, being an HTC device, is showing the same two issues that it seems all HTCs suffer from

1) battery life & operating heat - excellent so long as you never turn it on. Otherwise just short of an 8 hour day possible. If you attempt a call lasting longer then 10 minutes expect the device to get pretty darn warm in your hand.

2) build quality... screens that peel up seems to be the fail for this one

Setting aside the horror that is HTC engineering, Android is nice, but it really does show the Google "we made it like we are engineers" approach to UX design. As in, it's not very good.

After you get past that, there are a few other things not to like which you can find by hanging out on any android forum.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

I lost track, did you ever get an n900?

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

I don't believe the OP ever had an N900. The OP's first post in this forum was about how the Android phone was so much better etc.

I believe OP is a troll out to cause distractions.

If OP really just bought an N900, he/she should take their complaint to the store where the device was purchased and ask for a refund and not waste our time with a rant about a dumb personal purchase.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

I meant gerbick - I know he had one (or more) of the other nokia tablets, and was on the fence and posting about being on the fence for a while, but then I lost track if he ever got one or not. Just wondering how ironic his comment was - only slightly, or massively.

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Naw. Had one in my possession the entirety of June though, just returned it last weekend. Bloke that had it and returned it for a refund, wouldn't give me a decent price - hell, I had used it more than he had! Anyway, with usage, time, and a hands-on experience of 30+ days with the last loaner, another 18 days with the company loaner during my trip to Pittsburgh in April... I'd say that I can opine as much as you long-term owners.

Still have access to the company loaner - but I'm not scheduled to go back into the office for quite some time.

Lemme guess. You're going to respond with "WHY ARE YOU RESPONDING IN THESE FORUMS, EH!?" or something therein, right?

If so, get in line. I think about 4 other folks are ahead of you in that line.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Nope, I just was wondering if you were speaking from experience or not. Nothing more. I don't care either way.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Let's see. I was talking about the forum, as it was during the ITT days, you know... 2007, 2008, early 2009 and how badly it's gotten due to the misinformed folks, the villains, cads, curs, scallywags, angry folks, and recent influx of obnoxious posters like the OP, and the such... and I don't have "experience"?

Hmmm. Interesting.

Oh... you meant the N900? I don't recall talking about it other than a question I leveraged earlier and I qualified it "I don't have access to the loaner at the moment..."

If you meant something else, then you sure as hell need to make it clear son. Because as it stands, the attitude of folks in these parts has turned downright nasty.

Care to add to that? You seem ready to for some unforeseen reason.

Guess I need to purchase the N900 to finally hush up that last bit of vitriol that you people seem to hold onto. And then what? Invariably next would be that I got a N900 after you lot... thus my indoctrination into Maemo 5 is lesser than yours.

Can't win, can I? Lord forbid that I drive up to the office tonight, let myself in, get the N900 and continue this discussion :rolleyes:

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

jajajaja i love it!

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

I think the difference is that the N900 is hardly out of the door and Nokia is apparently abandoning it. Same thing happened with the E70, they discontinued it less than a year after they launched it.

Nokia will most likely want to sell you a new phone rather than fix problems on "old" phones.

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I find gerbick's experience very important. He had the phone for a long time and in the end he chose not to buy one. That says much more to me than someone who invested in it first and than got to experience it. I really need to buy a phone soon and the N900 is the only one I actually want, but I can't just ignore negative views. Those are usually the ones that hold the truth.

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There are a lot of posts like this, if you're not sure, then make sure you are sure.

Like many, many before me have said, the N900+Maemo are the most open, most Desktop like GNU/Linux based mobile device out there. If you want a device that will literally do what you can do on your desktop/laptop, but put it in your pocket (performance aside) then the N900 is your only choice.

There are bugs a plenty, but no show stoppers IMO, the flexibility is worth the N900's weight in gold :P

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

OT: Please refer me to any Buffy-app you know of :p

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Not true.
The N95 had a firmware update after 2 years of its release.

So, what you're saying is just pure speculation, and I'm having none of it.

BTW, you already know that the next big thing, MeeGo, will run just fine on the N900.
The only thing is that it's not gonna come to you over the air, and you can't complain if it's not working correctly.
(So, they're calling if officially unsupported.)

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Why do we even argue? There are at least 20 threads in which all the N900's shortcomings and N900's strengths are discussed at length.

Want a Nexus One? Buy a Nexus One. Love the N900. Good for you. I love it too. Want an iPhone? Buy an iPhone. Angry at Nokia? Go to: http://discussions.nokia.co.uk/ and post there. Want to sell? Try ebay.

Angry at Maemo? Post HERE. This is a Maemo forum. Not an iPhone forum, not an Android forum and not a Nokia forum. If HTC made a Maemo device it'd be welcome too.

Please don't keep creating these topics. Personally I am only interested in new apps/game and development of them. Or new ways to hack your phone.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Give someone the strength? Talk about an arrogant comment. You think you are some sort of smart-phone user therapist?

How about FINDING the strength to learn the language? "Worser"?

Small wonder you never became proficient on the N900. Sophisticated devices like this one require literacy on the part of the user.

Go post your joy on the Android forums. They have more room for useless threads like this one, that does not provide a single speck of information concerning the device you are touting. It seems you approached it the same way you did the N900.

And I disagree. You ARE a runt.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Why are you being so sensitive and emotional.., :eek: picking on petty grammatical mistakes, all this coz deep down you know what im saying is true!

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Oh dear, that was all really very unnecessary wasn't it?

You know I spend less time here lately than ever, but I still can't help popping back now and again to read the good stuff and because I still use my NIT's. Yet when I read juvenile posts like this I really wonder why I bother.

How about wiping that vitriol from your spittle flecked chin son...

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

Welllllll... until you need some customer service, parts, support or run into a serious flaw or bug that can only be fixed by Nokia and then have to either wait on it--or worse, wait and end up never seeing it fixed. Don't forget to weigh in all the Nokia hardware/closed-source roadblocks in the OS in addition to all that freedom they gave you. Ah right, and don't forget that you can't just walk into a store for repairs/replacement in most cases. You have to MAIL it and have faith that it'll not get damaged in shipping, lost or even just stuck in an undelivered bin in the post office. GOOD LUCK if you end up calling Nokia to insist that you DID mail them your device to get repairs and they never got it.

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

if only the N900 had never been a phone, then we would not have seen all the threads about switching to a different phone...

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

If the N900 had never been a phone, it would have been an Internet Tablet and more resources would have probably gone into making the next better tablet instead of this garbagy parody of a phone.

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You might have had a valid argument there, if your initial post had actually said anything..

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Was that pointed at me? Because I don't see any relation to my post and your obvious frustrated venting...

I'm sorry if you've had issues getting your device repaired, what bugs do you feel are show stoppers that are not being fixed?

Re: Google Nexus One, The Phone I Should Have Bought From The Very Start.
 

I brought the N900 knowing all of its shortcomings. I knew the Ovi store didn’t exit, I knew there were like 100 apps at the time and I knew I could have brought a laptop for the price if I wanted to…

I also knew that even if it had a 1ghz processor, it would lag occasionally and as it was a “pc”, after a few days, memory leaks would slow the thing down and I would need to “reboot”

But what I wanted was a phone which I could develop apps to make my life much easier.

It’s a shame the transition from VB/Windows programming to Qt has not been smooth (something Nokia have improved on with the latest release of Qt).

I would like to try out the android platform and from videos I have seen, the N900 runs the platform much better maemo… (I.e. it “feels” quicker)

If your not sure what phone to buy yet, hold off and buy a £10 phone until you are.

As for these threads, on this forum, I think it’s a bit pointless as I doubt Nokia pay much attention as it’s a community forum (and a very good community at that!).

I have a few issues with the N900 from a programming/development perspective and I intend to voice that directly to Nokia, not this community as it’s their fault not this community’s.

Oh, and I am not a big fan of Google anymore as I do think they seem to take over the world. Wouldn’t be surprised if all the Google phones sent statistics to Google on what you do with the phone, who you text etc…

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Personal experience, not speculation. I had to take my E70 in for repair under warranty because of a non-functioning keyboard (some keys were borked) they said they had to replace the motherboard. Just after a year buying it (ie just after the warranty had expired) the same problem occurred. However this time after factory resetting the phone the keyboard worked again. But for my peace of mind I wanted it looked at and took it in to Nokia service, they said it's been discontinued and need to get spare parts from abroad. So I told them to stuff it. Luckily the keyboard is still surviving.

Just because the E70 didn't sell as well as the N95, doesn't give Nokia the right to drop support just like that. Especially when at the time of purchase it was practically[*] their top-end "business" phone.
[*] Not sure whether the E90 was around at that time.

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You haven't said anything else but stated your opinions. What makes you think your opinions are more "true" than his, my, my dog?