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col37400 2010-07-27 23:29

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Lowlight doesn't seem to save images anywhere, or if it does I can't find them... am I being stupid?

Milhouse 2010-07-27 23:42

Re: fcamera Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 763918)
when i open the camera lens the default camera app does
not shoot up anymore. this must be related to fcamera, hdcapture
or lowlight app. maybe bless900 which i had to deinstall for the
above apps.

can someone help out?

Blues

Same here, stock kernel no overclock no bless900.

To use the standard camera app after opening the lens you can depress the shutter button to activate the camera app.

The new FCam drivers don't seem to know anything about the lens cover sensor on the N900, so presumably they have somehow deactivated it when replacing the normal camera driver.

It's a shame it wasn't picked up as Nokia have apparently been working on this with the university guys - perhaps better N900/Maemo integration will come later (won't hold breath).

Milhouse 2010-07-27 23:50

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by col37400 (Post 767129)
Lowlight doesn't seem to save images anywhere, or if it does I can't find them... am I being stupid?

Yes. :)

lowlight processes your pictures in the background, and it can take several minutes per photograph.

When the processing of each image is complete the jpg should appear in the MyDocs/.images directory (where they can be viewed in the Photos application).

col37400 2010-07-28 00:03

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
ah ok. They aren't appearing in the images directory but maybe I'm not giving it enough time to process them.

rotoflex 2010-07-28 00:13

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
I am also unsure if the process for lowlight or HDR has completed, and may be exiting before they are completed.

A status message of "Processing" and possibly "Completed" would be very useful.

tzsm98 2010-07-28 00:39

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
It's good to get a feel for the community's experience with a new tool/toy. These bug discussions are interesting.

If you find a bug you can report it to the bug tracker for the application so it can be vetted, assigned and addressed.

https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?group_id=1693

Is the bug page for part of the fCam application. Be sure the developers are aware of your unexpected experiences so this application can be molded into something that works as imagined.

Currently there only two reported bugs. One has to do with lack of feedback and the other with install issues when using the Enhanced Linux Kernel.
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ayos! 2010-07-28 06:35

Re: fcamera Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 763918)
when i open the camera lens the default camera app does
not shoot up anymore. this must be related to fcamera, hdcapture
or lowlight app. maybe bless900 which i had to deinstall for the
above apps.

can someone help out?

Blues

same here. but whats weird is sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt

col37400 2010-07-28 15:14

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rotoflex (Post 767172)
I am also unsure if the process for lowlight or HDR has completed, and may be exiting before they are completed.

A status message of "Processing" and possibly "Completed" would be very useful.

Yes. In fact, in practical terms, this app is not really usable until some sort of status message is provided.

Especially as there is no way to switch to other applications and leave it to do its stuff in the background. You have to quit to use anything else on the phone.

maxximuscool 2010-07-28 21:36

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
is it just me or after installed fcam-driver my N900 stock camera app taken pictures with more grain and light sensitive? Whereas the dark area will be blocks of black boxes and doesn't dethering properly?

I hope it is just me :(
If anyone experiencing this then I'll log the bug :) otherwise please move on!

col37400 2010-07-28 22:10

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
I had the problem of opening the lens cover not activating the stock camera app today. It doesn't happen all the time. But I think it is related to the installation of Fcam so is a bug of some sort.

toxaris 2010-07-30 08:28

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Be aware.
I Unplugged my phone from the powercord this morning and notice that it was quite hot, or atleast warmer the usual.
Later today I notes that the battery drained very fast today so I started Conky to see it there was a process that might eating my phone. And yes HDRCapture did 100% CPU most of the time. And suddenly I remember that I used FCAM apps yesterday.
So when you have used some FCAM related apps, be sure to check processlist after.

Ministeri 2010-07-30 10:15

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
fcams image browser is awesome.

It's way smoother and faster than default Maemo 5 Images app. Someone should replace default Images app with something like this. Swipe effect, zooming etc. are great!

Milhouse 2010-07-30 13:14

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toxaris (Post 770013)
And suddenly I remember that I used FCAM apps yesterday.
So when you have used some FCAM related apps, be sure to check processlist after.

Presumably by this you mean "I took a boat load of pictures with the hdrcapture app"?

As you've discovered each hdrcapture image takes a long while to process in the background. I never got a reply to my question as to whether FCam uses or can use any hardware acceleration but it could certainly use its help as the N900 battery probably won't last long enough to take more than a dozen hdrcapture images. Perhaps an option to delay background processing until the N900 is on AC power would be useful.

andyph666 2010-08-03 02:41

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
is it not possible to view the pictures taken with fcamera? I've installed the fcam drivers, hdrcapture and lowlight but cant see where the viewer is? Thanks.

silent tim 2010-08-03 07:55

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyph666 (Post 773805)
is it not possible to view the pictures taken with fcamera? I've installed the fcam drivers, hdrcapture and lowlight but cant see where the viewer is? Thanks.

swipe up while in fcamera to view delete or share images if you dont have access to open dng files

swipe down to enable auto jpg

hdr pics go in camera, lowlight pics go in images -both as jpg, so should be automatically picked up from gallery

col37400 2010-08-05 00:39

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
i keep getting notified of an update to the fcam drivers...but can't install it because of a conflict with the 'power users' kernel I also have installed.

Do I understand correctly that any updates to the fcam drivers have to be incorporated into the 'power users' kernel before I can use them? The other option being that I uninstall the power users kernel?

daperl 2010-08-05 04:00

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 770257)
I never got a reply to my question as to whether FCam uses or can use any hardware acceleration

Can it? Should be able to. The Standford class where this comes from did a project on this very subject.

Does it?

I think the answer is yes and no. If you're referring to JPEG creation on the dsp, I don't think they are. There just using Nokia's closed source libjpeg62 and it doesn't have any reference to /lib/dsp/jpegenc_sn.dll64P. But Nokia's closed source libjpeg62 does seem to be using NEON calls to help with the discrete cosine transform (DCT):

jpeg_fdct_ifast_neon
jpeg_idct_4x4_neon
jpeg_idct_ifast_neon

The debian version of libjpeg62 doesn't have these calls.

Milhouse 2010-08-05 11:13

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 776131)
Can it? Should be able to. The Standford class where this comes from did a project on this very subject.

Does it?

I think the answer is yes and no. If you're referring to JPEG creation on the dsp, I don't think they are. There just using Nokia's closed source libjpeg62 and it doesn't have any reference to /lib/dsp/jpegenc_sn.dll64P. But Nokia's closed source libjpeg62 does seem to be using NEON calls to help with the discrete cosine transform (DCT):

jpeg_fdct_ifast_neon
jpeg_idct_4x4_neon
jpeg_idct_ifast_neon

The debian version of libjpeg62 doesn't have these calls.

The jpg conversion doesn't seem to be a problem (the jpg images appear quickly etc, even when saving in RAW at the same time)

It's the background processing that appears as though it would benefit the most from hardware acceleration as this seems to be all CPU based - for instance, hdrcapture and lowlight both grind away in the background for sometimes minutes at a time and frankly kills the battery in short order.

silent tim 2010-08-07 13:04

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Has anyone noticed a slight vignetting effect on pictures taken from fcamera when not in direct sunlight (darker edges, brighter centre)?

daperl 2010-08-07 13:43

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Yes, I have. Very strange.

Bingley Joe 2010-08-07 15:12

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by silent tim (Post 778741)
Has anyone noticed a slight vignetting effect on pictures taken from fcamera when not in direct sunlight (darker edges, brighter centre)?

I remember reading a small note from one of the developers mentioning that correcting for the vignetting effect is on their to-do list.. I can't for the life of me remember which of the many threads this was in, but I know I saw it somewhere :)

col37400 2010-08-09 00:56

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by col37400 (Post 776057)
i keep getting notified of an update to the fcam drivers...but can't install it because of a conflict with the 'power users' kernel I also have installed.

Do I understand correctly that any updates to the fcam drivers have to be incorporated into the 'power users' kernel before I can use them? The other option being that I uninstall the power users kernel?

Anyone......?

geohsia 2010-08-09 01:27

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by col37400 (Post 779941)
Anyone......?

I was told to ignore it until further notice.

maartenmk 2010-08-13 11:56

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by col37400 (Post 779941)
Anyone......?

see this and subsequent posts: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...421#post781421

Edit: On another note, is anyone already working on video capture using fcam drivers?

S0urcerr0r 2010-08-22 15:45

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
POSSIBLE BUG:

PROBLEM: The notification LED next to the Screen stopped working after installing fcamera.
Other apps installed (related to camera) was livefocus and blessn900.
It still didnt work after uninstalling all of the above apps (incl fcam drivers).
the charging led doesnt even work when im charging no matter if its on or off... however... while restarting the phone i can see it blink one time in the before booting.



Other than that - MAGNIFICIENT APPLICATION! :)

zimon 2010-08-22 16:17

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Milhouse (Post 770257)
Perhaps an option to delay background processing until the N900 is on AC power would be useful.

I agree! The fcamera interface would just tell there is some photos (HDR) which have been delayed and need to be processed in some later time.

Then command to finalize previously delayed works would be there somewhere. Manual command would be fine if automatic processing option is turned off, because the system cannot know if someone is about to fully charge the battery or just quickly get some extra juice on the road when the charger gets connected.

With HDR-photos, self timer with setable delay time is a MUST have feature. (Yes I have a tripod for N900.)

BluesLee 2010-08-22 17:44

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by S0urcerr0r (Post 795026)
POSSIBLE BUG:

PROBLEM: The notification LED next to the Screen stopped working after installing fcamera.
Other apps installed (related to camera) was livefocus and blessn900.
It still didnt work after uninstalling all of the above apps (incl fcam drivers).
the charging led doesnt even work when im charging no matter if its on or off... however... while restarting the phone i can see it blink one time in the before booting.



Other than that - MAGNIFICIENT APPLICATION! :)

i can confirm that behaviour.


Blues

sed8me 2010-08-23 04:25

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BluesLee (Post 795104)
i can confirm that behaviour.


Blues

After installing the latest Fcam drivers/program from
app manager - install updates
Fcam wont start at all, Native camera app wont start at all,
"internal app error/driver error"
and WORST OF ALL, keybord lights are not working, as well as charge light error.

Uninstall and re boot only allows native cam app to operate, keybord lights are still out....:mad:

anyone else have this error, or awar of how to restore keybord ilumination?
I have found this:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...highlight=fcam
still trying to figure it out.

jean2323 2010-08-23 05:28

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
uninstall fcam and fcamera, remove the battery for some time and reinstall.

this worked for me, but i tried this scheme a few times till it worked
i've used apt-get in the end to reinstall app and drivers

vignes_k 2010-08-23 05:45

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
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i would love to have a time lapse feature with fcamera. Also is the 1s exposure time a limitation of fcam? If it can be extended to allow a longer exposure it will give new options for serious mobile photography. any thoughts of adding zoom functionality?

examples of some shots taken with a canon 450D may be a reality with a mobile camera.

S0urcerr0r 2010-08-23 06:04

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
FIX :
i also FIXED the status led by turning off the phone and remove the battery for some minutes - like jean also mentioned before. just removing for a few seconds didnt work.

probably some areas of a hardware controller chip partially crashes. maybe the same chip that handles charging of the battery while the phone is off. maybe its a conflict between blessn900, live focus and fcamera that causes this problem.


however i still cant get fcamera to work. but the lowlight and hdr apps works nicely. ive tried uninstalling blessn900 and live focus, then reinstalled fcamera and drivers and its still the same

pthomas22 2010-08-23 15:49

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
I also updated fcam yesterday anfd now the LED lights do not function.
Launching fcam fails and it also disables the native camera. A reboot gets the native camera back but there is a pretty major fail here on the latest drivers.

jean2323 2010-08-23 19:27

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
i kept installing and rebooting, taking the battery off till it worked .
when it worked i followed this scheme:
i've installed the fcam drivers with apt-get install in terminal and then the fcamera again with apt-get

now it works

but the phone acts strangely lately ... i have issues with wifi, charging and the leds

Rob1n 2010-08-23 19:33

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pthomas22 (Post 795985)
I also updated fcam yesterday anfd now the LED lights do not function.
Launching fcam fails and it also disables the native camera. A reboot gets the native camera back but there is a pretty major fail here on the latest drivers.

I don't think it's the drivers. The new blessn900 version should be using the same drivers, and that works without any issues (plus the fcam authors have said there's been no code changes to the drivers in this release). The problem seems to be the fcamera app itself, and the LED activation code it's using.

pthomas22 2010-08-23 20:01

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Fcam also stops FrontView from working

jean2323 2010-08-23 20:03

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
LEDs but starting too ... cause after it crushed ... reinstalled, the app won't start (blessn900 won't start either!) is this that makes one think that the drivers (or maybe something else that the 2 apps share) is the problem

pthomas22 2010-08-23 20:23

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
Turning bluetooth on and then off seems to reset the LED's but you need to do it every time you use Fcam or recharge.

CYPHERC 2010-08-23 20:39

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
i dont even know what is this app for, lol, someone told me it was for better pics, and i got it, and now i dont know how it works. lol

col37400 2010-08-25 01:13

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
my phone's been acting a bit funny lately - slowing down and seizing up when it shouldn't. is there any reason to think that fcamera could be to blame?

KlausRu 2010-08-31 16:41

Re: fcam & fcamera and HDRcapture Thread (Bugs, Ideas..etc)
 
I would also like to be able to extend the time of exposure to way more than 1 sec. Ideally I would suggest a real manual setting of exposure, an endless exposure which is just terminated by pressing the button a second time: first click to open the shutter, second to close it.
My goal are experiments with light painting.

A workaround would be a command line access to fcamera using all parameters as options. Maybe someone can help on this.

Thanks


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