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No the "tnk" (my bicycle) was resting for a day because the "grl" (well my legs anyway) needed a break after riding a bit too hard last week :)
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?HWR - absolutely horrible. I've tried every trick I've read about and can't get it to work. How do you add a space? ?Keyboard - needs navigation keys so that you don't have to backspace to make a correction. (If there is another way, I'd love to hear about it) |
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Just got it.
Some quick observations. Wow, it is much smaller than I ever thought it could be. The screen just can't be explained. I never thought I would be able to read such small fonts. More tomorrow. Quick assessment, I love it! |
I finally looked at one this weekend at CompUSA in Henderson, NV. While it wasn't set-up to do much and the college age clerks didn't seem to have a clue about it, the clarity of the screen, the overall feel and look of it made me want to buy it. But they were out-of-stock, other than the demo. All-in-all, if someone wanted to use it as their primary internet device, would you say it meets the needs of most for surfing the 'net? Do you feel the quality and durabilty is excellent? Is it easy to use? Thanks for any advice and opinions. I can't afford a good laptop, but I'd like something better than MSNtv(WebTV).
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I just figured it out last night while playing with JMills' discovery of how to get the mic turned on. Retyping all those commands tapping-style wasn't fun.
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Say What? ;) So after dropping a teaser like that, how do you turn the mic on? Larry |
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...0&page=3&pp=10
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I got mine :)
My family have all discovered what a great battery life it has because I can now, evidently, stay in the bathroom for up to 3 hours at a time instead of my usual 5 minutes :)
So far I'm lovin' this thing...taking me a bit of time learning all of the basics but it's becoming more fun every day. I have a million questions I'll get into later, especially about the mail client...can I use it to access my gmail account? (accounts) I've tried but without success. I'm either not doing something right or I'm doing something wrong, or it can't be done. Someone let me know if it's the later and I'll quit wasting my precious bathroom time with it :) Thanks...If I can't, it won't make me love this thing any less :D |
Nice... Very nice
So far it is an impressive little machine. Nice Build quality, good feel. Responsive, easy to set up. Have not gotten very far in playing with it but easy to set up the network and phone pairing.
Now comes the endless hours of tinkering... Got to set up swap, root access, vpn, ssh, telnet, etc. David |
I am not a hardcore user like most users here, but I have been getting a lot out of the device so far. I havn't set up swap, root access, or extended memory. I have only a few of the apps from the maEmo.org site. I use it to check Gmail, Bloglines, post to my blog, surf to sites I hear about when I'm watching TV, listening to the raidio, or just out and about. I use it to stream radio from SHOUTcast, plus listen to some of my own music and short podcasts.
I have not been able to get the email client working, but I'm not in need of one as I use Gmail as my primary email. I have stopped using the news reader in place of Bloglines. I have yet to play chess or the other games on the device, although I likely will in the future (I only wish there was solitare or hearts). I look forward to additional features of the device being opened up by Nokia and developers (which ever comes first). VoIP will be interesting. I think a voice recorder would be useful know that we know there is a mic on the unit. I see all kinds of bluetooth and wifi options opening up for it, and have hopes for better management of memory in future updates. Happy Hacking! |
I am a longtime Palm user - most recently (and on-going) a Palm Tungsten C.
So - I am comparing with what I think was (and to some degree still is) one of the best PDAs for relatively heavy mobile use (good bright screen, keyboard built-in, built-in 11b, fairly fast operation, good base memory plus MMC slot, Infrared - but no Bluetooth). Some of my dislikes/suggestions below might just be me not finding out how to do some things with the GUI - but fun learning so far. Country: UK Purchased From: Nokia via Web (shipped from Belgium) Purchase/Arrival Date: 26/Jan/06 - 31/Jan/2006 Likes: Screen size Full-screen zoom button Font size increase/decrease via button 11g wireless Openness Dislikes: No option for Auto BCC - Default and override per mailbox/message Alternate outbound server - Roving user accessing home mailbox but WLAN specific SMTP server No (obvious anyway) mark multiple messages for delete - Selecting unopened obvious spam for deletion is painful Modify default for deletion to be local only since it seems to insist on a live connection when requesting delete on both (Palm does not - it remembers and syncs next time) Time format - Prefer 24-hour clock rather than AM/PM in all places where time appears Connectivity Shame there is no infrared both for beaming data between devices and as home equipment remote control. TCP/IP access via USB (PPP over USB via router software on PC) for low power network usage or if with laptop in office without wireless connection (I do this on my Palm via 3rd-party software on PC - but basics are already in standard PalmOS (PPP via USB). Power - seems to use it quickly - but waiting for a few more discharge/charge cycles to be sure - power via USB ... Newsreader Doesn't honour font increase request Chess Allow tap for source and destination selection not just drag Highlight computer last piece moved Speed Does seem slow - despite installing Dec/05 firmware update. Favorite apps: Browser |
First impressions don't count!
My initial reaction on getting my 770 was disappointment: the screen isn't much bigger than that on the Palm TX, while it doesn't have some of the Palm's features and it's a lot heavier.
My second reaction? The stunning screen is so great it really does feel like a miniature laptop. I would have preferred a 5 in screen, and maybe I should have gone for the Samsung Nexia (any feedback greatly appreciated). I currently have a cellphone and Pocket PC. I'm moving to a Windows smartphone and the 770. I need the 770 because I'm a reporter, and I need something completely mobile that can do two things: surf the web, and file copy online. So I needed a good screen. I considered the OQO but it doesn't seem that much better for about 5 times the price. I do need a proper keyboard to use with my 770. I'm going to get a ThinkOutside USB KB. If this DOESN'T work I would appreciate the feedback. I'm going to England for 10 days later in February. I may write about the experience when I return. |
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I think I'm in love...this little toy is much more than I had ever hoped for. I don't have one single negitive thing to say about it.
All my friends are toting around their monster laptops just to be able to get on line at the coffee shop...you should have seen the shade of green their faces turned when I reached into my shirt pocket to join them in an online search. You would have thought it was St. Patricks Day. :D I was able to [thanks to this forum] figure out the e-mail client and set up all three of my g-mail accounts...works very smoothly! I've trained my handwriting recoginition and it's proven to work quite well...but the key board is so fast that I only use the handwriting to impress :D I am glad I read the booklet though. Iearned a couple of things it may have taken me awhile to discover...like the optimal view...it's great being able to read the pages without my glasses. I thought I might be in trouble until I discovered that. I love the resolution when I kick a page up to 250% and I don't have to keep scrolling back and forth since it automatically re-aligns everything. This is one sweet machine... |
Keep in mind...
This little baby is designed as an internet tablet, not a PDA. If you want a PDA then buy one but don't expect this to do work it wasn't designed for. That's almost like child labor. We must keep things in perspective.
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No, it'll be a PDA. PDA is a *subset* of an Internet tablet - at least in terms of hardware.
With some more development, DejaPIM or GPE-PIM combined with Nokia's alarm framework will mean it's perfectly suitable as a PDA. |
Wow - I love this little thing. I've used Palms, PocketPCs, and Blackberries in the past, and this is by far my favorite device on its own. Of course, I'm using it as a fancy Squeezebox remote and web reader, not PDA/e-mail device, so it's not apples to apples.
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Country: Italy
Purchased From: ebay.it (PowerSeller) Purchase/Arrival Date: 2 feb / 13 feb 2006 Well, I think I can not be objective: I've loved this small piece of tecnology since the first time I've read about it on LinuxJournal... Likes: the touchscreen and the design, but I think the most important thing is that it's linux-based ;-) Dislikes: the dimension of the charger's jack... just now I'm triyng to recharge (after a full-descharge) and the screen is totally off... I'm starting to be scared... I hope it's not an hardware bug! Favorite apps: browser (but in the future, I think I'll find many interesting things to install :-P ) |
Great Device
Country: US (Houston, TX)
Purchased From: Fry's Purchase/Arrival Date: January 30, 2005 On the whole I really like the 770. I've used a Zaurus for several years but find that I prefer the Nokia. In part that's because of the built-in connecti\vity but it's also the case that the Nokia are doing a great job of really making the device open (at least software wise) as well as producing a really sol\id device. I've owned the portrait mode and landscape Zauris and while I can say that I miss the thumboard occassionally it's not a major loss. I have a ThinkOutside \Stowaway Bluetooth keyboard that I keep handy. It's much easier to type on for longer messages (although not handy when you're at the store). Perhaps the most telling difference between the Zaurus and Nokia for me is I carry the Nokia everywhere. The Zaurus, espcially the clamshell, has been left behind numerous times. I'll echo the comment about RAM but really it doesn't cause me much trouble. I have a 32 Mb swap partition and that totally eases the pain. Likes:
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I've had my 770 for about a week now, so here's my first impressions:
That screen: Everyone says it, but "zowie!". Just gorgeous. The rest of the device is just a box to carry that screen. Overall construction: nice and simple. I'd like a slightly more rugged case, but that's an aftermarket thing (I'm thinking like the PalmGlove that's kept my M105 alive for four years of abuse...). A bit of neoprene, a little magnet to turn the screen off, and a rigid bit to protect the screen. Are they on the market yet? The openness of the platform is of course totally addictive (you should see the faces of geeks when I spark up XTerm). It turns the device from a consumer product into a community product. The potential of this thing is eye-bleeding. But I'm just as stoked that the out-of-the-box interface is slick and works well. Good work, design team: the various bugs and interface clunkiness can (and doubtless will) be ironed out in future firmware releases. Who do we refer those to? Handwriting: If I get another capital-P mid-sentence I'll cry. The recognition doesn't seem too good at x-height (the height of the lowercase "x" and things like the lowercase "p"). A dotted line on the recognition window, and user-settability of that line's height, would IMO be a big improvement. PIM: Yes, I know its not a PIM, but I don't want a bag full of devices. In fact, I think the 770 is intended to access any PIM functionality just like anything else, via the web. Which is an interesting idea, but I'm not putting my personal phone book and password list on Yahoo! The GPE PIM is clearly work-in-progress and desperately needs appropriate sync for this class of device. Encrypted sync to an arbitrary FTP destination which also hosted a web PIM app - that would rock. What am I using it for? So far I've been using it as the "magic magazine" - its designed use - IMDB from the sofa, recipes from the kitchen, news on the loo, and so on. But I've used it just as much as an ebook reader, and that did surprise me. The screen is the first one good enough to read for a decent length of time, and I've been chewing through weighty texts (the Iliad, the Hacker Crackdown) without getting a headache. FBReader, full screen, portrait mode, the zoom buttons for page up/down: sweet. The return of reading in bed :) The other use it's had so far is as an ad-hoc notepad. The Sketch app is ideal for taking down who's having what in a round of drinks: nothing to learn! (And beery fingerprints all over that screen... weep!) So, what do I want from this thing that I don't think is currently there? * Some UI tweaks that have come up on a zillion other reviews and posts. RSS news feed and Internet Radio station subscription come to mind first. * More reliable handwriting recognition. * Bluetooth networking. The how-to's work but aren't exactly a slick user experience. Yes, this is outside the original spec, but I have a specific need: 802.11/x isn't permitted at work, Bluetooth is. * That PIM. It really really needs sync of one sort of another. But the developers know this already. Overall, though, it's just gorgeous and I'm stoked :) |
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Country: Germany
Purchased From: Saturn (local electronics store, not the planet) Purchase/Arrival Date: 23.02.2006 Likes: Well, the screen of course. It's so damn sharp and big, albeit hard to read outside in the daylight. But my greatest surprise was how well streaming radio worked, especially over UMTS. I even was able to watch the BBC video news, which are broadcast in 16:9 format and fit well on the wide screen. What I also like is the developers community at maemo.org, and all the interesting projects going on there. Dislikes: The CPU is somewhat weak, especially to display more complex pages. I tried watching an episode of Happy Tree Friends (in flash format), which didn't work out too well. I also would have appreciated a bigger memory card than 64MB. I am about to buy a 1024MB card soon. Favorite apps: web browser, audio player, ScummVM Well, I love the 770 for all it can be. A mobile web radio, a on-the-go browser (better than opera mini), a game platform (although the PSP is still prefered by me) and a media player. By the way, at the time I picked it up, it was probably the only one being for sale in our whole town! I almost walked my feet off trying to find a shop selling these. |
Country: Netherlands
Purchased From: Nokia website Purchase/Arrival Date: 16 Feb 2005/27 Feb 2005 Likes: - Brightness of the screen, I have to turn it down in the evening not to be blinded by the light (.. "revved up like a deuce, another runner in the night", Manfred Mann, in case you're wondering). - The touch-screen is very responsive. - Resolution of the screen is really good (no news there) - I like the default font for some reason, nice and smooth (Nokia Sans, pretty similar to Verdana). - Wifi connect/disconnect icon is conveniently located. Easy to switch it off to extend the battery life. - Size and weight are perfect. Feels solid and it's truely pocketable. - No phone. If you want a phone, get a phone. If you want to walk around with a pc on your ear, be my guest but get an HTC Universal instead. Nokia used to sell timber, an internet tablet is not such a great leap from mobile phones, get over it. Dislikes: - Default browser font is too small and cannot be changed as far as I am aware. This makes it unnecessarily inconvenient to read long text files. I plan to use the 770 as a portable reading device for text documents through the browser or pdf reader allowing me to walk around or lie down, hang upside down or whatever, anything but sit down all day long. Try reading a 10-K on sec.gov and you'll know what I mean. The width of the screen is similar to typical text width of a pocket book (that is the page width excluding the margins) so it's quite sufficient. But on full screen mode there are about twenty words per line on the Nokia as compared to around ten words in a pocket book. I have to zoom to 200% to get the same font size but this would require me to scroll the page left and right to be able to read it, not a good idea. This problem could easily be resolved by allowing the minimum font size to be determined by the user. - So far the battery life has been sufficient because I have been using it exclusively at home. However, I foresee this becoming a problem on trips. I am not looking forward to carrying around even more cables. I know this is a problem that is not easily resolved. Moore's Law does not apply to batteries. - The screen should cover the whole device in the next generation. Take a cue from the iPod video mock-ups on the net. The buttons on the front can easily be moved to the sides. - A scroll wheel on the side, bottom or top of the tablet would make scrolling through websites a lot easier. Favorite apps: - so far I've been using Opera exclusively. I have not even set up the email client as I use Gmail. There's no need for an email client these days. |
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Heheheh that's been brought up several times. Drag right for a space, down for a line feed and back for backspace. Also scribbling left to right has the same effect as tapping backspace repeatedly. (Maemo, alternate input methods). Tnx Beowabbit, but that post of mine was ancient and I caught onto the alternates a week or two later. I'm going to go back and re-read my first impressions now that I've had the tablet for 10 weeks. :)
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I Just got mine fifteen minutes ago and i love it! I'm using it right now to make this post! the keyboard works better than i thought it would. i heard a lot of people complaining that its slow but i have no problems with it so far. the only thing that bother me is that it's always asking me to reconnect. also, the screen looks like it has a protector over it but i don't see where i can pull it off. i don't know, i might just be stupid or something. i'll post more about it later after i used it for a while.
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Purchased From: eBay Power Seller Purchase/Arrival Date: 3-23-06 Likes: Portable Screen color is brilliant! Excellent Features Sound is great Web Browser is EXCELLENT Dislikes: Sometimes Slow Low Memory Somewhat small battery life, but still good Favorite apps: GPSDrive |
I really like the metallic cover. But still a funny thing is that I'm still positively surprised whenever I use the 770 without the cover. It's so much smaller and lighter.
I was glad to notice how intuitive the GUI is. Maybe I'd read to many reviews but I instantly knew how the machine worked and what the buttons did. Took a few days for me to intuitively try pressing the "home" buttom long to get up the "running apps" menu, and press the "back" button long to close an app. It was nice that it then did what I had hoped for and intuitively felt it should do. It would be nice to be able to access the main menu, the menu where one starts apps with a button too. One can do so much without a stylus already. I like it. |
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+Great display.
+Runs linux (hence is very configurable and has tremendous potential for pull from the open-source community, a lot of which it has already generated). I mean, just look at this forum and all the 770 blogs/pages/ports already. +Great web browser; with "Optimized Viewing" pages are squeezed to fit the screen. +Good text input, esp. with new thumb keyboard. Personally I even like the text recognition but many people dislike it. +Amazing wireless reception; it detects WLAN AP's that even my Airport Extreme and Linksys cards don't detect from home! Form factor. +Supports multimedia, ie. movies, sound, etc. +Has a port of ScummVM which works great ;) -Battery life isn't terrific, but not shabby. Charges quick to compensate. -UI is somewhat laggy/slow to respond (<-- Note: New OS2006 Beta fixes this completely). -Kinda slow bootup. -Can't move applets around in homepage (<-- Note: New OS2006 Beta fixes this completely). -Still needs a good calendar app, but then again this was never meant to be an organizer. -You need to choose an AP every damn time you close and reopen the web-browser, email, etc (<-- Note: New OS2006 Beta fixes this completely). One thing I must say, which to me redeems any flaws whatsoever, is the extremely sensitive wireless receiver. I can stroll down my neighborhood, walk into town, and connect to an AP almost anywhere. And I live in suburbia in south-eastern NY! I bet in NYC and other major cities you'd have a connection virtually anywhere. Combined with maemo-mapper and wikipedia.org, this truly is as someone dubbed it, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy." |
+ Runs Linux - all the reasons mentioned before, good stuff
+ Great browser (which I intend to upgrade further with privoxy to filter ads and crap) + Can handle my bluetooth keyboard - linux with keyboard, ooh yeah. + Runs Linux (can be said twice) so I can use lots of cool tools like ssh, etc. + Screen resolution is great - Screen quality stinks! Compared to my own VGA Pocket PC, it's horrible, with moire ("glitter") and uneven lighting in areas. Probably not bad enough to be a dealbreaker but annoying and there's a big questionmark for how my eyes will like multi-hour e-bookreading sessions on this thing. - no PIM functionality but I didn't need that so bad either in this Initial impressions were, basically: "Cool! Feels really solid! Nice controls... ok, let's plug it in... Great, a standard Nokia charger, I can get another one and keep at work! Ok, let's turn it on... What the... did someone place a clear sticker over the glass? What's with the nasty moire pattern?? Mumble mumble... click, tap, click... oooh, cool browser! I love the resolution! Mumble mumble... darn moire... looks like crap... click, click, click.. wow, a working bluetooth pairing and internet access in seconds, great stuff! Boy does PVPOnline.com look great on this, except mumble mumble... darn screen pattern... " etc. ;) |
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I suspect the amount of "sparkle" may vary from unit to unit, and also I'm cursed (or blessed) by coming from that Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket PC. That screen is absolutely, completely, utterly paper-white when on a white page, and backlighting doesn't vary one iota from one edge of the screen to the other. Of course, it also costs several hundred more to purchase and doesn't have nearly as cool an OS as this one - and while it is very nice, you can definitely tell it's all silver-colored plastic. The 770 has even more of a quality heft to it.
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