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my thoughts...

sexy end devices. the volume mover is in the consumer space and these people dont care what os is on the phone. if the entire experience of using and owning a meego device is sexy, people will buy. buying a device is a statment about yourself. are you cool? are you hip? are you popular? are you rich? are you the only guy in town with the coolest phone?

it's when you whip the device out and don't feel shy about showing it off.

then you have the geeks who know what they want but there aren't enough of such buyers to make a difference. a lot of iphone users used to be feature phone users and the iphone was/is their first smartphone device. a geek would find the iphone fascinating for about 15 minutes as an end user ...unless u offer him/her a green xterm session. :)

just my 2 cents...

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btw, how does nokia or intel make money out of meego if it is open sourced with no licensing fee? i dont get that operating model.

is ovi the only repository for meego apps to make money? and if so, how would nokia or intel lock this? somehow it doesn't sound correct...

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Devices with MeeGo would be a start ye. Would be cool if Intel would release like a 'Nexus One'-like phone to promote MeeGo and even their Moorestown hardware.

An AAVA mobile for example running MeeGo with an Intel stamp on it could sell well imo. And ofc you have the N9 series from Nokia as wel (with hopefully better marketing than the N900). Those 2 could give MeeGo a nice start.

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Intel and Nokia are both notoriously known for their hardware... their software/os.. not so much.

So Intel and Nokia are not going to get money directly from MeeGo.. what they'll get money from is releasing hardware that is running MeeGo. Now, motorola, samsung, whatever could decide one day to give a MeeGo device a try and go grab MeeGo, make some drivers for it, and put it on a phone and Intel and Nokia won't see a dime from that.

From Intel and Nokia's perspective.. they have a hand in MeeGo so they can make some decisions regarding how it's managed (something they couldn't do if they went the Android Route).. and with making it truly open they have the possibility of dipping into thousands of experiences Linux dev's beyond their own small pool.

Somewhat like Dell selling computers with Ubuntu on it... Dell doesn't get any money from Ubuntu - and Ubuntu didn't get any money from Dell - but Dell got its money from it's hardware, and Ubuntu gets free advertising and broader user base (because it was cheaper when they (customers) bought it than the windows counterpart). The only difference in this case, would be that Nokia and Intel have direct say in MeeGo, Dell doesn't have the same for Ubuntu.

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Perhaps not realistic right now but as you said, the pace of development is frantic.
Give it two years or so and I think the Chinese will force the hand of the major western players.

If you upgrade the hardware and storage on something like this and add 3G capability it would sell volumes. It already is selling volumes and it is just an open tablet that needs memory cards for storage.
(If link is parsed, google SmartQ V7 linux, android, winCE)

http://mp4nation.net/catalog/index.p...3dc0777e30279e

I have owned a no-brand chinese windows mobile device with GPS and TV tuner before and it was fairly impressive, especially for $200AUD.
This was more than 2 years ago and the west is only just coming close to catching up.
Once you take the headache of a badly translated custom OS out of the equation you are just dealing with hardware + platform.

Exciting times.

One of the main reasons I bought an N900 was the number of different operating environments in the works.

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If they want it to be SUCCESSFUL, it has to be. They have to show that there is a reason to switch to Nokia. Otherwise, they're just maintaining the status quo and people will be given no more reason to switch. ;)

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That is exactly why users should refuse to buy into schemes that lock them in. Spend your money supporting those who give you most choice. Root for the underdog to prevent monopolies.

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Knowing Nokia's track record it will be worse than HTC, Motorola, or Samsung.

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Problem is, there’s also the now-and-here requirement.

Take example, I want to buy PC and want to use Photoshop, but I don’t want to use Windows. Yes, there’s Gimp and other alternative, but assume nobody write the software yet. Does that means I had to bear for years waiting for someone to think it worth the trouble writing that image editor. Imagine if the need is professional.

For now, the new platform need to have the value too. They can’t just play underdog, or give promise. Well, Google can, but they have big name and good record on delivering recently so they’re a better bet. If Nokia and Intel want to give MeeGo a better traction, they better get try to get more (vocal and influential) geek credit than stockholder credit.

PS: since one of the value is about applications, what if they conduct a survey to see which applications users needed from other platform, then aggresively help those software authors to port their code (rather than merely asking them, which they might not bother the unfeasible touble) and help maintaining it.
Yes, that will be enormous cost to gamble.

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Developers are not only driven by materialistic 'carrot objectives'. They are also stimulated by the availability of good development tools. Qt is bringing that too, and not just the ability to work cross-platform. Developing for Symbian and Maemo wasn't great, and that was one poin iPhone and Android were ahead.

On the other hand, iOS and Android are too restrictive, while Maemo and MeeGo are hacker friendly. People shouldn't consider Android a 'Linux based system'...

I feel too little people here have tried MeeGo already! Please dowloaad and test the pendrive live image ! You boot it and you are tweeting in seconds. It comes with media player and all. Lots of 'apps' that any other linux distro has.

MeeGo can become the great distro for ARM machines and specific netbooks...

One thing is not clear to me is how much Ovi store and other Nokia stuff will be available for MeeGo devices in general. But it's a good thing they are starting with the open part, and not making like Google, letting people wanting to have more than the 'public' part of Android actually is.

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maybe exporting to space(for Predator or aliens perhaps)? our earth is too crowded for another NewOS.

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I understand perfectly well your premises. Well, if the need is professional, then the investment should be made by the company. Which explains the ubiquity of Windows. I only tolerate Windows for my work needs because it came practically for free with my new laptop, and 7 turned out pretty good. All software that I use comes form the Linux world, and I love it. The second I find anything annoying about Windows, it's gone...

Well think also that something of great value today may leave you completely dependent and robbed tomorrow.

I have made a similar, perhaps more naive suggestion in the past: why not find out how many copies of a popular application a certain developer sells, and then buy from the developer the ones for the first three or six months -- not the copyright to the app, but individual copies (which could even be resold to end users). That should be incentive for some at least to port their code, since it would guarantee them a start on the new market.

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My interest is actually, 1st party developers for web services I already used on desktop and want to bring to mobile. Those, I think, is the developers driven by “carrot objectives”.
But that’s just me.

There’s words back then when Linux is still used to be pitted against Windows as the underdog champion. Windows users wait for applications they need, Linux users write applications they need.
As great as it sounds, average peoples can’t and don’t want to write software, they want it ready.


Well… something to get credit besides the developer. Better company image (suggested this before the apps topic).
Combining the voices in the community council topic as well as topic about Froyo update to the Milestone in XDA Devs… they should open about everything.
What they’re doing, when it’s planned to be finished. If any suggestion is in review and a date when it will be answered (and quick). A straight to the point yes/no answer, not being ambiguous. Keep contact, make the audience know that their demand reached open ears in the higher ups and is answered with action (or rejected clearly without trying to be nice so we can go on) instead of marketing peoples trying to fix technical trouble with sweet words.

Will MeeGo have that ? And have it published more koudly in places where average consumer can see and understand what it means ?


Sopwith: hasn’t thought that deep yet :D
As long as they don’t acquire the software company instead.

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Yes, I agree. But that's the thing... they need to change that.

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[QUOTE=attila77;780916]People will not develop for MeeGo - they will develop for Qt. ...

I have seen this argument several times, but I still don't get it technically. If you write for Qt for the desktop, you may e.g. make clever use of the third mouse button. You may make interesting applications based on hovering. You may save and load your data in application specific places. You can popup lots of sub windows (e.g. like gimp does). You can make heavy use of read/write cycles to the hard disk. And I'm sure lots of other decisions that work just fine on the desktop, but don't scale to a mobile device with its different constraints. How does Qt take care of that? E.g. an Android application is supposed to automatically store its entire state on close. How does Qt/MeeGo do that, or doesn't it? Is it up to the application programmer to decide whether he wants to store the state, or popup a window asking whether to save the data?

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don't forget the basics in making a successful mobile OS, a good PIM is with search capability, 2 fundamentals the n900 has missed.

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Yes, it's up to the developer to decide how their app works.. I don't see a problem with that?

If a Developer designs something with Desktop, AND Mobile devices as their target.. then as they are designing it they will avoid such things as the third mouse button. If the developer designs it for Desktops only then they might add things that would be non-optimal for mobile devices.

This is not a bad thing.. Developers decide for themselves how their app works. Besides, it's not like most desktop UI's are very efficient on small touchscreens. So when a Developer designs their application they take all this into account.

As far as saving state, all MeeGo is, is Linux. There is no "saving state" like in android, Maemo doesn't have it, so what's the question? If a Dev wants their app to save state, they make it, otherwise they make it work like every other application for Linux and Windows. Android is a separate beast because it thinks for you. It decides which apps you want running when and it decides which apps gets backgrounded/sleeped/or saved out. So therefore the applications on Android have to maintain a state or people will soon realize how annoying it is to go to an app you were just using only to find out it restarted itself.

On Maemo/MeeGo, you have to manually close the application, if you don't it'll sit there running constantly until you do - therefore no need for "save states".

Again, the power here resides with the Developer to decide their target audience, design their application accordingly, and code it.

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Ouch MeeGo doesn't seem to have a lot going for it.

• Failed to name why MeeGo is more than just another Linux based mobile platform and why developers should create applications for MeeGo. No qt doesn't change the fact that MeeGo is immature.
• Failed to name a killer feature for people who aren't Linux nerds.
• Failed to name why OEMS should adopt such an immature platform. Neither Nokia or Intel is neutral.

Sorry don't mean to hate just I need reasons for people who aren't Linux nerds to use the platform and real reasons to create applications. Also Intel or Nokia are not neutral by any stretch of the imagination sure Linux foundation is but MeeGo was the creation of Nokia and Intel.

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They probably won't change that.

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Ok, thanks for explaining. This dismisses the notion that you can take any Qt program and just recompile it and run it under MeeGo. I.e. there has to be an active concern for the developer to make sure it is cross platform.

I can see the advantages and disadvantages with this approach. What's nice about it is all the freedom it leaves the developer. On the other hand applications will have less infrastructure in common, which means that they may behave differently, as well as each application needs to reinvent the wheel.

It is interesting to note the difference in a draconian approach that Apple takes for the ipad/iphone vs the "on our Windows 7 tablet you can run any of 3 million windows application" approach of Microsoft. I think that users prefer the Apple approach, as it will ensure that the user interface has been tested and works for the tablet platform.

But perhaps the same advantage can be achieved for MeeGo by some kind of voluntary assertion. E.g. an icon indicating that "this application has been tested to adher to the MeeGo style guide version 3.5.2".

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Well that is actually going to be a problem with almost any infrastructure once you separate the hardware manufacturers from the OS developers.

The better comparison is Android. Where "theoretically" you can write an android app on any Android.. and just deploy it across the market and everyone with Android can now use it right?

Not quite. Anyone that uses Android will know when looking through the Market comments they get people *all the time* reporting "Force Closes Device X", "Won't launch on Device Y", "Keyboard doesn't work on Device Z".. etc. Because even an Android app that is portable still has to adhere to the hardware capabilities (and the different OS versions and manufacturer customized tweaks) across platforms.

Switching this to QT and your first sentence:
That's not entirely true. For the most part... you can take any QT app and pretty much just compile it for whatever you want. The problem comes in to will it work? Take for example the N900. There was a few Mail programs written in QT that people have ported over, and I myself recompiled one for the N900. It compiled fine, launched on the N900 fine. The problem was the UI was not optimized for a tiny screen, and all the options menu's and stuff go off the screen. Making it unusable.

But, the app itself "worked", and was cross-platform compatible, but because the original developer had no intention of a Mobile device using their product - they did not code it to be usable on them.

Apple maintains both their hardware and their software. So they can ensure that every app written for a specific OS version will work the same on their hardware because all of their hardware is very similar in performance. They don't have to play a mix and matching game of some hardware vs others.

So anyway, the point is, the disadvantage here is the same as the advantage here: Multiple peoples hands in the Pot. MeeGo (should be) no different than Android in this case.

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I'm sure this has been answered and I either missed it or can't get my head around it, but...

Symbian and MeeGo are open source. Use Qt to develop a UI/UX for each. Use Qt to develop apps that run on either.

Now... how are they differentiated?

EDIT: from end user standpoint, for marketability.

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(I think you are asking about development so I will answer as such, if I missed your point let me know..)

By Hardware capabilities.

Theoretically I could write a QT app that uses hardware keys to navigate things or drive a car.

Problem: Half our MeeGo devices don't have a hardware keyboard! They can't play my game! (I believe this actually happened a bit in Androids infancy when the G1 was the only device. When the MyTouch came around I seem to recall people complaining that hardware keyboards were required to use the app and they didn't have one.)

Or, QT is also on my desktop and as dov said earlier: I could code my app to be a Desktop app in QT with a Desktop-style UI (or require left, right and middle mouse buttons for example) and then someone tries to port it to MeeGo or Symbian (because it's QT). Unfortunately the UI will be unintuitive at best, unusable at worse on the smaller devices.

Also, there is likely to be at least some internal differences between Symbian and MeeGo.. so if I code my QT app to rely on something that only exists within Symbian, then porting it over to MeeGo is not a straightforward process. It will need to be fixed/worked around to get it to work.

Etc.

QT (or any platform that I've seen) is not 100% "Code once, deploy anywhere" when you actually talk about 'usability'. Sure, if it's in QT we can likely make it run on our devices... but whether we can use the App or not is a different story.

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Actually asking from an end user (ie, marketing) standpoint, sorry.

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That is not exactly what I was talking about :) The point is that, naturally, you will have to adapt to a mobile use-case. BUT. You will do that in Qt. You're not doing it 'in/for MeeGo'. The same stuff is applicable to Symbian, WinMo, UMPCs and even Android/webOS (should you want to use the unofficial ports). In those terms there is nothing specific in MeeGo (unlike when you develop for iOS or Android, where your tools and code are only good for THAT particular platform). Thus, the bottom line for a developer is "I'm making apps for Qt compatible platforms (of a given form factor)", and not "I'm making apps for MeeGo".

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Fatalsaint is right, there is no(t much) difference from a user standpoint apart from more high-end hardware coming with MeeGo and 'modest' ones coming with Symbian (and their UIs of course tweaked accordingly). This part of Nokia strategy I don't quite get. Personally, I think that it's this Qt strategy that needs to be pushed, that's the thing that can and should be made cool (I actually blogged about this). Samsung got this right - what they call Bada is in essence their (puny ;) ) equivalent of Qt with all the extra APIs/libs (even though they got two different OSs under the hood depending on device class). Symbian as a brand value is just in freefall. MeeGo is pretty much an unknown. What is your supercool secret weapon that actually has a pretty good reputation and solid (and marketable !) name ? Qt. Well, what's the holdup then ?

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Good points attila77 (and I read and liked your article). Qt makes it easier for Nokia to flat out drop the OS that winds up lacking bang for the buck, and no average end user need be the wiser.

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Dont agree, We dont need a appstore cause it stops development if company takes control the way apple do it.

We have already seen this kind of problem in nokia OVI store who doesnt grant access for those developing in python and thats a "apple way of doing it" and not a solution.

Meego will not fit for all people but for those who prefer openess and core linux and alot programminglanguage alternatives, Meego is the winner :-)

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After reading through the bulk of this thread I am encouraged. What could have rapidly devolved into a "chuck rocks at Nokia for how they have abandonned us" sort of thread it actually has some clear foward looking thinking. Not all the clear thinkers think alike, but that is another reason I love being in this community.

What will make Meego succeed? Limiting my remarks strictly to the telephone end of the OS I ask "What made Symbian60 such an 800 pound gorilla?"

The "Gotta Haves"
1- Consistency across devices
2- Reliability on each device
3- A wide range of price points for devices
4- One click installation of applications
5- Emergency reset procedure
6- Full suite of PC/Mac/Linux tools to manage device and information on it

These, excepting the last point which had only part of that going for it, are what made Symbian60 my UI of choice since I bought a Nokia 6290 in 2007. It is what cemented me as a person who looked at Nokia first, then all others, when considering a handset upgrade. Five of the six requirements are device oriented. The last is external to the hardware but as important as, oh, let's say, antenna design, when it comes to givng the end user the "gee-whiz" experience. Get these six correct and the end user will not be thinking about what is running their phone, they will be using it instead.

I understand the uses of Meego will extend far beyond the smartphone/pda with phone realm. But for it to be at hand and in hand for the average user it has to meet the six items I list above.

Leaving behind the S60 comparison there are other areas where Meego will have to shine to succeed.

Support
I see a lot of mentions of supporting the devices after launch. I see support = new releases of firmware in some people's minds. My 6290 got all the way to v3.xx in firmware and was never heard from again. This was okay because it ran like a top on that firmware.

I think more than wanting support people do not want to have to need support. They want their devices optimised and running smoothly from product #001 to the end of production.

Applications
If you build it they will come. We've seen that over and over again with the Nokia tablets, the iPhone, Android devices, Java, etc. Having Qt as the basis is supposed to make device specific applications easier to create from the "Proto-Application" developed in Qt.

If a clear roadmap of the changes required for specific devices arrives, hopefully before the device pre-order period, then Qt developers will be able to deliver. If there is murkiness as to the correct path to take to make your application device specific then there is going to be a slow walk to having the applications people crave and need.

I'm hoping Meego succeeds. I get a great deal of enjoyment from my N900. It won't last forever. I hope when I get a different device it is an upgrade from the N900, not only in specifications but in OS as well. Meego could be that OS.

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Good question. My points:

- Great multitasking implementation (better than Android and WP7). UI as smooth as iOS (hopefully).
- No buttons on the front :-)
- Good development tools with Qt SDK.
- Limited to high-end hardware. Means less fragmentation.
- Nokia likely to be the only manufacturer in the beginning (similar to apple).
Cited as a disadvantage by many, but also limits the amount of different hardware used and therefore fragmentation, which is good.
- Nokia Hardware with nice design and great cameras.
- Nokia brand.
- Ovi Maps.

Why I am still skeptical:

Lack of commitment by nokia. Qt everywhere sounds nice (and will work for most things) but the UI and hardware requirements still have to be tweaked for symbian/maemo seperately.
Nokia needs to sell a lot of meego devices, which they will if they want to.

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The answer is actually pretty simple, imho: if your app doesn't require MeeGo's capabilities, you don't differentiate. Despite Qt being awesome, Symbian will never be a Unix-like operating system. End users will just see that cheaper phones don't run as much stuff as more expensive phones.

Qt only needs to be pushed to developers. Right now, it can even be promoted to users, but when there's enough software, they won't need any convincing about developers being present.

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I'm only to read this article as it's very interesting topic and from the first look a nice discussion took place.

But answer for this is simple. You forget S^4 will be completely rewritten using QT. It will be something like light version of MeeGo at first for non high-end phones at the market at first. Later,probably MeeGo would be used on phones in almost all price range. But we have to wait to see=)

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A little different approach from an average user -

MeeGo won't work if it is MeeToo (sorry couldn't resist)

Uniqueness gets people interested. I think one the things that really kicked off the iphone revolution was that it was one of the first devices to make browsing the web really easy and intuitive. It offered something unique and different that got people excited.

So what can make MeeGo unique? One thing that already sets it apart is that it is running a full Linux distro. What are some things there that MeeGo can take advantage of?

1- For the first time, MeeGo gives us the chance to "live" an OS. There is potential to turn MeeGo into an "everything" device. Imagine this commercial- guy wakes up morning, turns off his MeeGo device alarm clock, gets online, checks into his flight, eats breakfast, reads the news on his device, goes to work, hooks up his to device to his monitor keyboard and mouse and starts using open office, prints a few reports, creates a presentation for his sales pitch that afternoon, unplugs, uses navigation system in his car that is already synced with the customers address on his mobile device, hooks his device up to a projector via hdmi, and lands the deal. Then he goes into his amazon/netflix movie app and starts downloading a movie over his 4g connection for that night. He gets home, hooks his mobile device up to his big screen tv (or streams it) and watches a movie with his family.

If nokia/intel does it right they can build devices that do absolutely everything and go with you everywhere.

2- Build a strong enterprise management system. Devices should be very secure, able to be provisioned remotely and automatically, screen and control sharing should be simple, corporate application controls etc, should be top notch.

Right there you have a direct competitor with RIM and WinMo in the enterprise space, a space that is badly in need of another player.

Then, take that system and make it friendly for families, allow parents total control of their children's devices, and make troubleshooting simple, but make it fun too. Make games that the whole family can join together. Family friendly will sell big in many places... it is segment that is seldom targeted directly in the smart phone space.

3 - leverage some older techs to get things rolling. Offering the N-Gage library for free would be a great selling point.

4 - I live in the US so I'll tell you right now that Nokia's marketing here is a major fail. The euro centric marketing only appeals to a narrow segment here. Family centric marketing or business centric marketing will go further, in my opinion (which probably isn't worth much).

I think if MeeGo effectively does at least a few of those things I mentioned, it could really improve its standing wrt to its competitors.

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September 15th is the day when Nokia better lay all their MeeGo/N9 cards on the table so to speak. If HTC steals the show with their rumored announcement of Desire HD....It could be the most EPIC FAIL of a Nokia World Conference for years to come. Sadly I am holding my breath as Nokia's marketing is just soo bad.

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Meego will work as long as phone companies are willing to provide non-hamstringed drivers for their closed components. E.g. every iteration of the nokia tablets has had closed video drivers that do not work to their full potential. Even the n900 drivers are terrible. I used to own an Touch HD (awful phone) and watched development of android progress to the point of drivers for the cellular radio and graphics, but these were extremely difficult to reverse engineer (maybe they succeeded)....the same is likely with the NITdroid project as well. So to me, if Megoo will work is dependent upon whether the phone manufacturers are willing to provide current, working drivers for their closed components (either os or binary). It can easily be done...nvidia has been doing it for years with their linux drivers. The rest is easy and I would bet the community would jump on it but nobody wants to develop for a hamstringed product.....

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It has nothing to do with the unicity (is that a word?) of Symbian. Hell, Qt supports Win and WinMo which were pretty far from Unix.

I think there is a miscommunication. It's not about the developers, it's about tech and brand. Symbian has suffered serious brand damage and will be hard to push when most people discard it offhand (even if ^3 and ^4 are a completely different story). MeeGo is a 'whatsthat' for now, way below the radar of most phone users. So what is the tech that is available now, which automatically affect both Nokia OSes, already has a good brand recognition and can be expanded ? Qt. It's like the killer feature thing - apparently for this target audience you need to be able to say 'but X doesn't have Qt' just as people say 'Y doesn't have Flash' or 'Z doesn't have iTunes', etc.

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Of course it does. If MeeGo wouldn't be closer to a full desktop operating system, there would be no point to it, since Symbian is much lighter. Some functionality will be easy to implement on MeeGo and very hard on Symbian. Qt can't abstract away the things that a lighter operating system will inevitably be missing, and in many cases people will want and need to use other libraries than Qt.

Anyone who thinks MeeGo is a 'whatsthat' will most likely understand Qt even less. If the objective is to work around the Symbian brand, the best solution might be to start pushing Orbit and DirectUI branding, not Qt.

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A Customers who buy a Smartphone is Answer.
Looking back what's make iPhone Success, it's 2 new things.

1. New Device ==> iPhone
2. New Market ==> Apple Store(Mobile Software).

Now and Next Year iPhone is dropped and Android Devices come up,
Everything look like sunrise and sunset.

Intel And Nokia would make New and Difference to challenged Buyer and Developer. It's mean... No New Devices, No New Market, .. No New OS(Android won now).

I think Meego is not Success in Smartphone, Vehicle or Any devices Market coz Meego followed a Java Footprint (Java OS for Any-devices) and less of device partner.

What new from Intel and Nokia?

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Not really. See below.

Good points.

In case of MeeGo this are:
1. New Device ==> pocketable microcomputer, in-car computer, set-top-box computer, etc.
2. New Market ==> "put a full blown microcomputer everywhere"

You see the key point here? MeeGo is not targeted at smartphones. This is dying breed.
MeeGo is targeted for normal microcomputers, like you are used on your desktop, but in a tiny form factor.

I'm scared to open the refrigerator. ;-)

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HaHaHa,You can Open Web Browser to Search Everything and watch your videos/photos and play MP3 in some SAMSUNG refrigerator now. :p