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japes

2010-08-25 20:19

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

The one thing I did notice is that if I didn't keep using the ipv6 connection/address, I would lose it and end up with a ipv4 only address. Of course a quick disconnect/reconnect get's it right back. That's probably T-Mobile's doing, but it could be the phone's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrown (Post 798197)

I'd be interested to hear how everyone else's connection reliability fairs when using v4+v6.

lemmyslender

2010-08-25 20:29

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrown (Post 798197)

I'd be interested to hear how everyone else's connection reliability fairs when using v4+v6.

I will try to check this out tonight (won't get on wifi at home).

I did install your ipv6 only connection. Works fine, can access the web, etc. However, it appears that it gives me problems with my sip connection (Gizmo5) and TOR (theonering - google voice access). Both end up with network errors.

Is there anything I should add to /etc/resolv.conf
I added nameserver 2607:FB09:BEEF:A::1 above nameserver 127.0.0.1
commented it out later. Either way ipv6 only give network error for SIP and TOR, ipv4+ipv6 they work fine.

Thanks

ddrown

2010-08-25 20:40

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 798316)

You shouldn't need to modify /etc/resolv.conf. The plugin gets the DNS servers from the connection setup and puts them in /var/run/resolv.conf.gprs (which is where dnsmasq looks for them).

I expect the problem with SIP and TOR to be the same as with MSN, having an IPv4 address embedded in the data. This means that DNS64 doesn't have a chance to rewrite the IPv4 address into a IPv6 one. So it probably won't be fixed without an update to that application.

tmojoe

2010-08-25 20:51

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrown (Post 798327)

My guess is that if your SIP server was IPv6 this would work especially well :) If the SIP server is IPv4, there is some ALG wrangling that needs to happen since in the IPv6-only scenario the NAT64 must protocol translate the SIP and related RTP packets from IPv6 on your handset to IPv4 on the server. This protocol translation generally works well for web and email, but applications with seperate control and media channels like SIP and RTSP tend to be challenge.

lemmyslender

2010-08-25 21:46

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

OK, thanks. Based on reading here, I thought that might be the case.

Don't think SIP will get fixed, but Ed may be able to do something for TOR.

Uxi	2010-08-25 21:56

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by tirtawn (Post 796944)

Hmm how do you get this $5 ?
is this the grandfather t-zone plan?

call them, ask for Retensions and ask if you can have the $5 loyalty unlimited Internet

scribbles

2010-08-25 22:18

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Form has been sent.... For those who have this, did you have to actually wait a week to get confirmation??

lemmyslender

2010-08-25 22:23

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

I'll third that the ipv6 connection is dropped after some time, ipv4 remains connected.

edit

Quote:

Originally Posted by scribbles (Post 798428)

Form has been sent.... For those who have this, did you have to actually wait a week to get confirmation??

Sent form Friday night, got email late Monday morning.

scribbles

2010-08-25 22:34

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 798435)

Sent form Friday night, got email late Monday morning.

Sweet!! So hopefully by this weekend maybe...

geneven

2010-08-25 23:00

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddrown (Post 797606)

I have a package to make v6 setup a little easier at:
http://code.google.com/p/n900ipv6/wiki/README

This will give you a v6-only connection option (and leaves your v4-only connection alone). I've been using it for a week now, and the only thing I've run into is MSN is broken (known problem with the MSN protocol).

Please let me know if you have any questions.

This worked for me, got the swimming turtle!

geneven

2010-08-25 23:26

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by scribbles (Post 798428)

Form has been sent.... For those who have this, did you have to actually wait a week to get confirmation??

I got mine in about 12 hours.

scribbles

2010-08-25 23:31

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 798485)

I got mine in about 12 hours.

Nice!! How is your speeds?? Do you notice a difference in web browsing??

ceroberts75

2010-08-26 00:25

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

i recieved my access in about 4 hours.

i noticed a difference that the youtube ran much smoother and loaded quicker, also that when you go to google.com, instead of being given the mobile site and have the option at the bottom for the desktop version, it is just the version that i was given...dunno if it was desktop or not. but it worked with thier auto-drops almost as quick as on my pc.

what else should i be looking for?

ceroberts75

2010-08-26 00:27

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

i have also noticed that since i changed my ip6v settings, that i can no longer log into the nokia support discussions blog. and this has affected even while i am on a wifi....not sure how, but it did. i was fine this morning until i changed that setting.

lemmyslender

2010-08-26 00:32

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

After looking at TOR logs, it appears I can't connect to google.com. Microb won't connect to google.com either. I can ping google though. Typing this via ipv6 only. Any suggestions on what to look for?

geneven

2010-08-26 00:43

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by scribbles (Post 798492)

Nice!! How is your speeds?? Do you notice a difference in web browsing??

Well, yes, I noticed a significant difference to the good. It seems almost as fast as my normal WiFi connection. At the moment, I am using a $15 prepaid Tmobile account. Normally I have to use Tor to get the Internet. I don't have to use Tor now; in fact, Tor didn't work for me when I tried it.

lemmyslender

2010-08-26 00:58

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

OK, I can reach google again, although it seems slow to resolve it compared to other sites. TOR and SIP are still showing network errors.

Probably try again in the morning.

ceroberts75

2010-08-26 01:04

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

this site http://n900-ipv6.garage.maemo.org/ is such an eyesore.

i thought i had it going just changing the access point to ccinternet2.t-mobile.com as it did make a difference, and even made the microb browser ipv6 capable....but i only saw a dancing turtle when i clicked on the link below the still turtle.

can someone please just give the simple step-to-step instructions, and not the engineering powerpoint to enable your n900 on this?

i have already been set up by tmo.

thank you.

lemmyslender

2010-08-26 01:45

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

1) Is your N900 stock or are you using Titan's power kernel?
2) Did you download the scripts and copy them to the correct folders?
3) Did you make the scripts executable?
4a) Did you modify the enable script in the if_up.d folder?
4b) Did you edit the APN to either epc.tmobile.com or internet2.voicestream.com?
4c) Are the username and password blank?

ceroberts75

2010-08-26 01:57

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 798561)

1-yes
2-not sure of the scripts.the dialog was like rudimentry practice after 8 hours in.
3-see 2
4a-see 2
4b-yes i did. using ccinternet2.t-mobile.com as was in the email.
4c-yes they are.

ceroberts75

2010-08-26 03:25

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 798561)

actually, this is about 1/2 of exactly how it should be explained. just like your steps, only have the appropriate links and xterm codes with each.

tmojoe

2010-08-26 03:52

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 798540)

FYI, the dancing turtle is not a very good test for IPv6 connectivity.

I would not really believe that IPv6 is working unless you can see your IPv6 address echo'd back to you in http://whatismyv6.com

tmojoe

2010-08-26 04:07

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 798435)

I'll third that the ipv6 connection is dropped after some time, ipv4 remains connected.

edit

Sent form Friday night, got email late Monday morning.

This should not be. The standard idle tear down timer for the connection for both IPv4 and IPv6 is 60 minutes. When i was using the N900, i had to hardcode the T-Mobile IPv6 DNS server into the /etc/resolv.conf since the using nameserver 127.0.0.1 would result in some DNS queries going over IPv4 .... and only the IPv6 sourced DNS queries result in IPv6 google content ... if you are not actively pulling IPv6 content like Google over IPv6, the idle timer will kick in and the connection will drop.

So, my suggestion is hard code "nameserver 2607:FB90:BEEF:A::1" in /etc/resolv.conf to make sure all your DNS queries go over IPv6, which will keep your IDLE timer in check, .... it will also ensure the Google content including youtube comes over IPv6 ... DNS queries over IPv4 will not result in Google AAAA IPv6 DNS records.

If you are especially curious, tcpdump gprs1 to see what traffic goes over that interface.

Ps. this was when using the dual-stack method from garage. The new package that one of the folks put out for IPv6-only sounds very promising.

tmojoe

2010-08-26 04:15

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 798540)

I understand what you are saying about an eyesore, but it does work if each step is followed precisely .... N900's IPv6 is definitely a work in progress. The Symbians really have mature IPv6.

That said, if the garage instruction are a pain, you may want to try this process http://code.google.com/p/n900ipv6/wiki/README

Some other folks on this board have had good success with it.

lemmyslender

2010-08-26 13:15

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 798603)

actually, this is about 1/2 of exactly how it should be explained. just like your steps, only have the appropriate links and xterm codes with each.

OK - since you are using Titian's power kernel, you are off to a good start.

1) Download disable script and enable script and save in MyDocs
2)Open Xterm, and gain root, and switch to MyDocs directory

Code:

sudo gainroot

cd MyDocs

3a) copy the disable script to /etc/network/if-down.d

Code:

cp 00_disable_apn_ipv6 /etc/network/if-down.d

3b) copy the enable script to /etc/network/if-up.d

Code:

cp 00_enable_apn_ipv /etc/network/if-up.d

Code:

leafpad /etc/network/if-up.d/00_enable_apn_ipv6

4b) Change sip.intdt.intra to your ipv4 APN value (epc.tmobile.com or internet2.voicestream.com)

Code:

### IPv4 APN value to hook up when activating IPv6 APN ###

MY_IPv4_APN="sip.indt.intra"

4c) Change ipv6.indt.intra to ccinternet2.t-mobile.com

Code:

### IPv6 APN value ###

MY_IPv6_APN="ipv6.indt.intra"

4d) Make sure name and password are blank, not indt

Code:

### IPv6 APN username ###

MY_IPv6_USERNAME="indt"



### IPv6 APN password ###

MY_IPv6_PASSWORD="indt"

4e) Change no to yes

Code:

### Add prioritary IPv6-specific DNS server? ###

ADD_IPv6_DNS="no"

4f)Check to verify newer DNS server is used, this should be 2607:FB90:BEEF:A::1, if not change it.

Code:

### Prioritary IPv6-specific DNS server ###

IPv6_DNS="2607:FB90:beef:3::2"

4g) Save and exit.
5) Make sure the scripts are executable

Code:

chmod ugo+x /etc/network/if-up.d/00_enable_apn_ipv6

chmod ugo+x /etc/network/if-down.d/00_disable_apn_ipv6

6) You should now be set to run ipv4+ipv6. Disconnect from your 3g connection, then reconnect. Alternately, you could just reboot. Make sure you are on a 3g connection and not a wifi connection.

lemmyslender

2010-08-26 13:34

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmojoe (Post 798615)

When connecting to ipv4+ipv6 per the instructions, checking /var/run/resolv.conf.gprs, it shows namserver 66.94.25.120 and nameserver 66.94.9.120

changing

Code:

### Add prioritary IPv6-specific DNS server? ###

ADD_IPv6_DNS="no"

to yes adds nameserver 2607:FB90:beef:3::2 as the first line in resolv.conf.gprs.

I'll leave this up for a while add see if it disconnects. *edit* just noticed this was at the very end of one paragraph in the directions, missed it when I set it up originally.

geneven

2010-08-26 14:07

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemmyslender;799041
4d) Make sure name and password are blank, not indt[CODE

### IPv6 APN username ###
MY_IPv6_USERNAME="indt"

### IPv6 APN password ###
MY_IPv6_PASSWORD="indt"[/CODE]

This helped me get the IPv4 and IPv6 connection. I hadn't changed "indt" to "" twice.

tmojoe

2010-08-26 15:33

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

[QUOTE=lemmyslender;799059]

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmojoe (Post 798615)

This should not be. ... hard code "nameserver 2607:FB90:BEEF:A::1" in /etc/resolv.conf to make sure all your DNS queries go over IPv6, which will keep your IDLE timer in check, .... it will also ensure the Google content including youtube comes over IPv6 ... DNS queries over IPv4 will not result in Google AAAA IPv6 DNS records.
.../QUOTE]

When connecting to ipv4+ipv6 per the instructions, checking /var/run/resolv.conf.gprs, it shows namserver 66.94.25.120 and nameserver 66.94.9.120

changing

Code:

### Add prioritary IPv6-specific DNS server? ###

ADD_IPv6_DNS="no"

Very strange. That is an old DNS server that will not work well for a variety of reason.

I just checked the script from garage and the DNS server is hard coded in the enable script. So, you can change the enable script to have the new DNS server and that will work correctly.

Ideally, the DNS server would be pushed from the network to the handset dynamically ... this is how it works in Symbian ....

I will follow-up with the author of the garage script to have the new DNS server updated into the script.

lemmyslender

2010-08-26 16:55

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Using the old nameserver that was in the script, I have had a steady connection for 2+ hours. I will change the script on my N900 and reconnect and see how that goes (2607:FB90:BEEF:A::1).

I believe that is what the ipv6 only setup uses. I was having difficultly last night connecting to google while on ipv6 (most other sites worked fine). As I mentioned TOR (google voice) indicates the network is unreachable (it is using python) and my SIP account is with Gizmo5, which is also a google product. SIP would occasionally connect, but not reliably.

PathFinder@9GS

2010-08-26 17:05

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 799041)

Code:

sudo gainroot

cd MyDocs

3a) copy the disable script to /etc/network/if-down.d

Code:

cp 00_disable_apn_ipv6 /etc/network/if-down.d

3b) copy the enable script to /etc/network/if-up.d

Code:

cp 00_enable_apn_ipv /etc/network/if-up.d

Code:

leafpad /etc/network/if-up.d/00_enable_apn_ipv

4b) Change sip.intdt.intra to your ipv4 APN value (epc.tmobile.com or internet2.voicestream.com)

Code:

### IPv4 APN value to hook up when activating IPv6 APN ###

MY_IPv4_APN="sip.indt.intra"

4c) Change ipv6.indt.intra to ccinternet2.t-mobile.com

Code:

### IPv6 APN value ###

MY_IPv6_APN="ipv6.indt.intra"

4d) Make sure name and password are blank, not indt

Code:

### IPv6 APN username ###

MY_IPv6_USERNAME="indt"



### IPv6 APN password ###

MY_IPv6_PASSWORD="indt"

4e) Change no to yes

Code:

### Add prioritary IPv6-specific DNS server? ###

ADD_IPv6_DNS="no"

4f) Save and exit.
5) Make sure the scripts are executable

Code:

chmod ugo+x /etc/network/if-up.d/00_enable_apn_ipv6

chmod ugo+x /etc/network/if-down.d/00_disable_apn_ipv6

6) You should now be set to run ipv4+ipv6. Disconnect from your 3g connection, then reconnect. Alternately, you could just reboot. Make sure you are on a 3g connection and not a wifi connection.

Thanks for the tutorial :)
But isn't there any way to run only ipv6?

ceroberts75

2010-08-26 17:09

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemmyslender (Post 799041)

Code:

sudo gainroot

cd MyDocs

3a) copy the disable script to /etc/network/if-down.d

Code:

cp 00_disable_apn_ipv6 /etc/network/if-down.d

3b) copy the enable script to /etc/network/if-up.d

Code:

cp 00_enable_apn_ipv /etc/network/if-up.d

Code:

leafpad /etc/network/if-up.d/00_enable_apn_ipv

4b) Change sip.intdt.intra to your ipv4 APN value (epc.tmobile.com or internet2.voicestream.com)

Code:

### IPv4 APN value to hook up when activating IPv6 APN ###

MY_IPv4_APN="sip.indt.intra"

4c) Change ipv6.indt.intra to ccinternet2.t-mobile.com

Code:

### IPv6 APN value ###

MY_IPv6_APN="ipv6.indt.intra"

4d) Make sure name and password are blank, not indt

Code:

### IPv6 APN username ###

MY_IPv6_USERNAME="indt"



### IPv6 APN password ###

MY_IPv6_PASSWORD="indt"

4e) Change no to yes

Code:

### Add prioritary IPv6-specific DNS server? ###

ADD_IPv6_DNS="no"

4f) Save and exit.
5) Make sure the scripts are executable

Code:

chmod ugo+x /etc/network/if-up.d/00_enable_apn_ipv6

chmod ugo+x /etc/network/if-down.d/00_disable_apn_ipv6

6) You should now be set to run ipv4+ipv6. Disconnect from your 3g connection, then reconnect. Alternately, you could just reboot. Make sure you are on a 3g connection and not a wifi connection.

THANK YOU for this!!!!

if the ip6v doesnt work the way we need it to, do you know how we would go about getting back to the original configuration?

frostbyte

2010-08-26 17:11

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

ipv6 only: http://code.google.com/p/n900ipv6/wiki/README

had problems with ipv4/ipv6 while using JoikuSpot. the ipv6-only setup leaves the ipv4 alone allowing two independent connections. works well!

lemmyslender

2010-08-26 17:32

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Just for completeness I am going to add a step to check for the proper DNS server

Check to verify newer DNS server is used, this should be 2607:FB90:BEEF:A::1, if not change it.

Code:

### Prioritary IPv6-specific DNS server ###

IPv6_DNS="2607:FB90:beef:3::2"

ddrown

2010-08-26 23:45

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 799269)

THANK YOU for this!!!!

if the ip6v doesnt work the way we need it to, do you know how we would go about getting back to the original configuration?

To disable the dual v4+v6, just do:

mv /etc/network/if-*.d/*apn_ipv6 /home/user

This prevents the scripts from being run by putting them in your home directory

geneven

2010-08-27 00:08

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

So, dumb question here. What happens when the beta testing ends? Do they roll ipv6 into their regular offerings? And, btw, was there a statement of how long the beta period is projected to be?

ddrown

2010-08-27 00:17

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 799558)

So, dumb question here. What happens when the beta testing ends? Do they roll ipv6 into their regular offerings? And, btw, was there a statement of how long the beta period is projected to be?

I have no knowledge of tmobile's plans, but I expect they will add v6 into their regular offerings. It's cheaper for their network, and should make it easier for developers targeting mobiles.

ceroberts75

2010-08-27 00:46

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

4a) Modify the enable script to reflect your normal APN (epc.tmobile.com for higher priced plan or internet2.voicestream.com for $10 plan) check in setup - internet connections - connections - T-Mobile Internet - Edit -Next, to see which one you are using. Use your favorite editor, I use leafpad
Code:
leafpad /etc/network/if-up.d/00_enable_apn_ipv4b) Change sip.intdt.intra to your ipv4 APN value (epc.tmobile.com or internet2.voicestream.com)
Code:
### IPv4 APN value to hook up when activating IPv6 APN ###
MY_IPv4_APN="sip.indt.intra"4c) Change ipv6.indt.intra to ccinternet2.t-mobile.com
Code:
### IPv6 APN value ###
MY_IPv6_APN="ipv6.indt.intra"4d) Make sure name and password are blank, not indt
Code:
### IPv6 APN username ###
MY_IPv6_USERNAME="indt"

### IPv6 APN password ###
MY_IPv6_PASSWORD="indt"4e) Change no to yes
Code:
### Add prioritary IPv6-specific DNS server? ###
ADD_IPv6_DNS="no"4f) Save and exit.

im a bit confused by this. was fine until i got to 5. where it said save and exit.

so do all those codes get typed in order to the leafpad?

how are they spaced and where do the get save to and what should they be named?

i was entering them in the cd MyDocs in xterm...didnt get any errors and wasnt directed to do differently.

when it said leafpad, i installed it then used your code. just pasted the ccinternet2.t-mobile.com and taped save, then went on.

thank you.

lemmyslender

2010-08-27 01:07

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 799582)

Dang! sorry looks like cut'n'paste failed me. the command in 4a should be

Code:

leafpad /etc/network/if-up.d/00_enable_apn_ipv6

I dropped a "6" at the end of the line.

That should open up the script in leafpad. Scroll through to find the sections I posted and replace the appropriate parts.

*EDIT* fixed in original post. You guys should probably go back and re-quote me or edit your posts to remove most of the quote to avoid confusion.

Upon further testing, I can normally get SIP working on ipv6 only. TOR still errors with "network unreachable". In the meantime, ipv4+ipv6 works just fine, will hold connection for several hours.

Anyone else out there using TOR?

lemmyslender

2010-08-27 01:19

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 799558)

So, dumb question here. What happens when the beta testing ends? Do they roll ipv6 into their regular offerings? And, btw, was there a statement of how long the beta period is projected to be?

I imagine that at some point more and more mobiles will be programed to use ipv6 exclusively. Those mobiles that can will be able to take advantage of the ipv6 connection. Those that can't will use the "old" ipv4 network.

The beta is just to help tmo iron out the wrinkles. Think gmail or google voice. beta first, then free to everyone later.

If I were tmo, I'd offer a cheaper rate to ipv6 uses to encourage adoption.

ceroberts75

2010-08-27 02:17

Re: IPv6 T-Mobile US Beta Test

i am sorry for asking....

i think my eyes are just hurting from this ...lol.

but i believe it is almost there thanks to that.

i remember reading somewhere a url to type into microb that would allow me into the settings to enable the ipv6 in the browswer.

after going through all the steps. and looking like it was all in ok...it still is giving me an ipv4 from the www.whatismyipv6.com website.

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