Re: Next phone after N900
 

i'm seriously considering HTC Desire. no doubt that N900 is a powerful device. but it sucks at doing the basic telephony stuff. sometimes, i need to reboot my phone just to make a call.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Not sure what I'll get after the n900. No doubt an Android-powered device, but you never know where Meego will end up. Easy enough to offload the n900 if need be, but it does what I want at the moment.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Had an N800, skipped the N900, waiting for a good tablet COMPUTER (not a cell phone) to come out from someone at a reasonable price. To me, it looks like it MIGHT either be a MeeGo tablet (I'll be avoiding Nokia, if at all possible) or an Android 3.x tablet. If you're talking cell phones, I already went Android with the Motorola Droid--loving it greatly, too... but I don't see how it aligns with a the 770/N800/N810/etc. so I consider myself still waiting for the next great tablet.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

I went from N900 to HD2 to Nexus One to IPhone 4. N95 8gb is always around. The iPhone is my favorite and the N900 is a very close second. I tried all the android phones and they were not my cup of tea. It seems all android phones have horrible battery life. iPhone battery can last all day with some heavy usage. All this open and closed stuff doesn't matter that much to the basic end-user. I haven't noticed any applications that were better from android to ios. Higher quality in ios and maybe more function over form for android. N900 could have killed with some more basic features and thought. Just my thoughts if anybody cared to hear them.

P.S. You will always want another phone that you can't have. Live with what you have and don't waste all your money on these devices that are outdated in 6 months. I know from personal experience.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

I basically want a phone that is thinner, lighter, and equiped with more ram than the N900, which is expected from the N9. I am just running out of patience!

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Its gonna be one of the nicer WP7 phones that will hopefully be coming out in the next few month. The first one is supposed to be out as early as a couple of weeks, and then theres probably gonna be a flood in November.

I'm really looking forward to the media capabilities of WP7. Coming from the N900, which can't even play some of my podcasts properly and constantly mixes up my album art, WP7 should be a godsend.

I will be sad to leave behind the qwerty keypad though, as I see more manufacturers moving to full touchscreen with only an onscreen keypad. I think the majority of WP7 phones will follow suit.

As for Nokia, I switched to them from the iPhone, and I will most likely never buy another product from them again.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Totally agree "Live with what you have and don't waste all your money on these devices that are outdated in 6 months"

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Sorry, what does that mean exactly?
Too slow for what? Have you even seen its video demo?

I hope we're not going back to the Mhz-war era.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Well, maybe he means that it's been ultra-hacked warezed awezome underclocked to 6MHz? ;)

Re: Next phone after N900
 

A guy in the office came in with a dell streak this morning - I have to say that Im am very very impressed - this 'might' possible be my next phone to replace my beloved N900.
The biggest surprise was just how pocketable it was - I really didn't notice it in my pocket and the screen is amazing.
It has everything I could want and is very responsive to use..
Downside - no hardware keyboard and Android - Im used to Maemo and the completely unlocked experience but I could always jailbreak it ;)
Im surprised at how much I liked it, I didn't want to, but after spending the last 15mins playing around with it - my N900 seems clunky and slow and dated and I so want one of these now...

Re: Next phone after N900
 

You should get the desire it's an awesome phone. I sold my n900 to my brother and since he's not at all familiar with tech i still get to use it once in a while. Written from my desire :p

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i like the look of the streak and iphone 4g,but can i do the things i can with the n900,access my online banking without the need of a simplified app.apps usaully lack full desktop function.On the n900 i can run my ebay auctions without any imput from a desktop or laptop ever, can any other phone do that?.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Remember the good old days with speculations about the RX71?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=27262

I am pretty sure I opened a TMO account because I believed that unicorn (RX71) existed in some far-away lab... but it must have been a typo...

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Just grabbed it back of him, and had another play - dont need apps, running the browser I was able to log in and check my banking OK, the inbuilt browser handles my webmail as well and youtube was a joy with the extra screen estate...

Re: Next phone after N900
 

I'm pretty sure Droid and Iphone can do that too. Jailbreak iphone4 is pretty close to N900 but better and it can use droid flash 10.1 hack too. That's why i think i might just go for the iphone4 since the droid drinks battery like juice. Maemo5 drinks battery too but still better than the droid.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

I wouldn't complained if the N900 got 512MB RAM. It would be the best device if Nokia didn't put only 256MB onto it.

I know linux doesn't need much RAM but 256MB isn't enough after all. No more Nokia for me for a while.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

That's good to hear - I bought a Dell Streak last night (should be with me on Wednesday), but I dont think it'll be my main phone. I'll keep my n95 or my trusty 1200 for that :)

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Only if I can change the damn battery!

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Sorry to inform you, but the "built-in electric razor" jokes already started around time when Nokia 3210 (one of the first big audience phones without an external antenna) came out.

Also, the work required to keep one's phone relatively clean is quite enough already with these touchscreens and all. Now imagine the amount of cruft the phone would collect if it actually doubled as a shaver...

Re: Next phone after N900
 

I've had my N900 since December/09 and I still think there's a lot of exploring to do... ;)

So far I haven't seen anything that would make me abandon the N900, but then again, I haven't really been looking for it... :)

I work with *nix systems and have Linux on my laptop - Thinkpad T400 (Ubuntu), "server" - Atom 330 (Gentoo), Sat box - Vu+ Duo (OpenPLi) and on my smartphone/mobile computer/whatever (Maemo) = Harmony... :)

For me "Other OS" = Non *nix... :)

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Actually, yes. Both Android and iPhone can do that. I've easily done banking and Netflix straight off my Motorola Droid just with the browser. Have you actually tried doing any of that with any other handsets? You might be surprised if you tried them for a week to do these things. Apps make things much more convenient, but the browsers on these newer handsets are very capable.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

The N900 meets my needs. I had an E90 until January of 2010 when I decided to make the jump to the N900. I got my E90 the first day it was available in the US and used it with Blackberry Connect software and other Symbian apps and that device at the time met my needs.

Now with the N900 I have had to make some adjustments with how I use my device. It has taken some getting used to, but for the most important aspects of what I do the support community here has REALLY made the N900 a viable device for a long time. I stand and applaud all the developers who contribute to this community. I hope Nokia recognizes that without many of your efforts, the usability of the N900 is greatly minimized. The biggest help to me was a simple VPN client that allows me to access the routers and switches I support. With the E90, waiting for Nokia to distribute a useable VPN client that worked was darn near impossible.

Although Symbian may have a bigger installed footprint, I see more innovation from the developers in the maemo world. It is disappointing that Nokia seems to operate like a rudderless ship when it comes to marketing and overall direction. I have used Nokia phones and I used to love their innovation and features. But in this new age of delivering smartphones to the masses when such a device was relegated to the truly geeky and early adopters, Nokia has lagged behind a little.

Us loyal Nokia users see adds all the time for iPhones, Androids, HTC, you name it, but I have yet to see the same effort from Nokia in the US to let people know what they have to offer. People would always ask me, "Who makes that phone?" Everytime I would pull out one of my Nokia phones, a 9290, a 9500, an E90, and now my N900.

I use T-mobile and in the US an N900 and T-Mobile service lets you use 3G the way it was intended. Wouldn't it have been such a wonderful thing for T-Mobile and Nokia to have an iPhone alternative? A subsidized N900 with the ability to have T-Mobile specific branding or have the user put the phone in "native N900" mode without the extra T-Mobile specific software but still have access to the 3G network?

But I digress... I fully plan to use my N900 for as long as it meets my needs professionally and personally. I have it overclocked and the applications I use work crisply and without much incident. Fortunately, I really don't make a lot of calls, so any shortcomings the phone application may have, I rarely encounter. I am more concerned with access to e-mail and Internet browsing from my N900. So naturally, I am concerned about the seemingly lack of future flash support for the device and seamless integrated printing. Admittedly, the flash 10 demo online was what convinced me to purchase the N900. It may be a poor excuse, but it was the thing that gave me a sense that the device would have support for sometime to come. At this point, I do feel a little lied to. Although I have not seen anywhere that Nokia would support flash 10 on Maemo. It does come across a little disengenuous to me that flash 10 would be demonstragted on a phone that won't have the software available to it's users.

Again I digress... It is hard to find the perfect smartphone/tablet that does everything you need from it. So I guess when you have lemons, make lemonade...

Re: Next phone after N900
 

No no, topdavis, you didn't digress enough...the topic is: "Next phone after N900", it's not about your current N900.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

i'll have a look at the droid 2 - looks fantastic but afaik it doesnt come with 32 gigs. though i dont want to buy a new device already.

i thought of going back to samsung, but they dont have a proper device with a hardwarekeyboard.

maybe the meego-device will be nice too, but after the n900 i'm really not sure if i'm taking that risk again anytime soon.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Give him another month without Flash 10. If he wants to stay a fanboi he'll switch back to the E90 and pony up for Symvpn.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Is it possible that Gingerbread will have a "Full" browser like Micro B on the N900? Android seems like the only other OS that will be running on slideout QWERTY form factor phone besides BB 6.0. Phone manufacturers seem so stubborn to the idea of high-end phones having slideout keyboards...I just don't see the justification...

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Built in? I truly doubt it. Stuff like Dolphin exists now though... and that's based off of the Mozilla. But... dunno. Gingerbread might get Chrome (I hope not).

Re: Next phone after N900
 

For example if the "N9" had a 12mp camera, Xenon flash, 1.3ghz processor, 1gb ram, 1gb rom, 32gb HD, 4in Super AMOLED capacitive screen, Penta band 3G, a 1500mah battery and 4row qwerty keyboard I would soo pay $750 for it.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

I don't want to exchange my computer N900 for a phone. I'll go stay with it until a new MeeGo device with resistive screen will come to the stage. I think it means forever, because nowadays all want capacitive (iPhone-like), but I don't know how to switch pages on this site (among others) with a finger.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

I'm avoiding Nokia at all cost! Got the hardware but go no support and apps = FAILED!

It needs all elements to make me buy it. Iphone4 is very close!! But still a little on the edge of what I need.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

If Nokia builds it... you will pay that much.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

It seems like some people in this thread switch their phone at the same rate they replace their socks. Personally, I expect to use the same device for at least 3 years, except under extraordinary circumstances.

By the time my N900 would be 3 years old, the N9 would become old news and 2nd-gen Meego devices would already be around. By that time, I would see want's available and pick the device that looks best for me. Brand loyalty is not a consideration for me. I picked the N900 not because it's Nokia but because it looked like the best phone for me. It could be another Nokia, and it could be another phone entirely.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

A few here are looking at the Samsung Galaxy-S (Vibrant). I recommend you wait until we see what they do with the software update in September. There are MAJOR issues with this phone. It does work, but frequently locks up (often requiring a battery removal), has GPS problems, and is often slow and unresponsive. And if you're used to the open feel of the N900, forget it when you switch to locked-down Android. T-mobile has removed tethering in all forms, there's no HID Bluetooth profile, and there's several programs that cannot be removed.

Also, Skype signed some exclusive deal with Verizon, so there is no Skype client for Android unless you're on Verizon.

I'm sure the tethering and bloatware can be resolved with a rooting, but I'd rather wait until after the update (and I haven't seen a good howto for people running Linux... most of the "one click root" programs are Windows only).

And to top it all off, here in the U.S, T-Mobile changes your data plan to an Android plan. They say there's no difference, and I am still able to use my SIM on the N900, but it seems like I have to restart the T-mobile data connection more than I used to before.

But the screen/form factor is much nicer. I like my N900, but it is just too small for my meathook hands. I really like having my Slingbox back on the phone (and it looks great), the Kindle reader, and the web browser renders very well. I'm still looking for a good podcast client, and media player that works as well as the N900's, but the bundled player isn't bad, it just doesn't support enough file formats.

So the best phone so far is the SamsungNokia Galaxy-N900.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

@Eric G:
You don't understanding the topic, are you?

1) What is meant by "full browser"? Aren't the browsers on Android "full browsers?" They aren't using WAP or some translation or degraded rendering or anything. So, I'm confused by the question. Near as I can tell, the Android browser is a full browser as is the HTC Internet browser (webkit based, just like Safari, Tear, etc).
2) Dolphin exists, that's Gecko engine (Mozilla/Firefox based) sure
3) There's also Fennec for Android coming soon (although, if you're just THAT impatient, you could go and get it now at http://groups.google.com/group/fennec-android-pre-alpha)
4) And if you liked Opera Mini 5.x on the N8x0 and N900, they scratched that itch too: http://www.opera.com/press/releases/2010/07/14/

I dare say there's a veritable PLETHORA of web browsers available for Android. At least one or two of them HAVE to qualify as a "full" web browser for crying out loud. :) If not, I'll boil this lobster alive and eat him, see if I won't!

Re: Next phone after N900
 

I love my N900 but Maemo is Dead and i think Meego is NOT PRETTY WORK.

I try 2 Android Phones last week, Samsung Galaxy S.
- it's bester more than legacy Samsung but it's "NOT Ease of Use" Android 1.6 - 2.2 lag of "User Friendly"

- x VGA or Higher Display Screen Android is not support, now it's look like ... "Not Shining Screen" may be Android Theme.

- iPhone it's bester ... look like "Old Man Standing" 4 Generations but not things new

I not try Meego or Android phone in couple years.

(may be going back to Nokia 3310 or Sony-Ericsson T610) :P

Re: Next phone after N900
 

You know, I've been bouncing that very question around for a while, but I have to propose that a "full browser" is more akin to a mobile browser that renders your favorite websites in the same manner as a desktop version without triggering mobile versions or having to override that behavior.

Just my 30,000ft take on that subject. And in that case, the built-in browser for Android fails, whereas Dolphin really doesn't.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Let's see. So far I have bought

--an ancient Nokia phone
--an N800
--an N810
--two N900s
--Oh, I almost forgot, a N500, a GPS device.

So, I'm tired of Nokia and its attitude and they will lose me as a customer.

I'll find some other phone to buy. I'm confident something will come along. I'll try not to announce it here. I'm tired of those threads too. I'm in no hurry.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

I had it in my hands, i wanted to buy it, yes i have seen the video reviews, and 6XX menas each X is a number from 0 - 9, because i dont remember the exact number, but you know what if you want it buy it, its not my money so go nuts with it.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

624mhz Marvell CPU - but RIM's OS is a bit leaner than the others out there.

Re: Next phone after N900
 

Yanno.. that's what several people here told me when I had a wad of cash and I was annoyed with waiting for Nokia to poop out the next device to properly replace my N800. I ended up buying a Dell Mini9 and a Motorola Droid. Combined, the two of them have done EVERYTHING I needed (podcast hosting with my mini9, Firefox and Talkshoe was GREAT, in addition to everything Ubuntu and VERY portable! My Android is just an incredibly excellent phone). But when the N900 came out, it was NOT a suitable replacement for either my N800 nor even my Dell Mini9. Muito triste. So--I await the next good pocketable portable computer.

So yeah, basically... if you someone to go spend their money elsewhere, they probably will. Good thing you're at maemo.org!