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theflew 2010-09-08 22:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 811074)
Unfortunately, what you are describing is probably the next version of the iphone. I'm not sure if Nokia "get's it", they don't realize they need a "super phone" (best hardware and software) to win back their reputation which was self inflicted (e72 stability, n97, n900 early death)

What cannot be denied is that Apple continue to add the latest hardware to each revision.
Apple adds hardware like it's a check list. Resolution didn't matter until they upped theirs (both camera and screen). What about adding a flash, wasn't important until they did it. In the end the new iPhone is more on par with the N900 than beyond it. It just has nice packaging.

bayernhan 2010-09-08 22:33
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sorry its 8 megapixels still 720p thought and resolution will be 960-480

maxximuscool 2010-09-08 22:35
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Who knows? If Nokia wants Customer then they have to risk it by releasing top notch hardware and providing top notch software support and upgrades.

patlak 2010-09-08 23:03
Re: N9 technical specifications appeared rumoured
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 811074)
Unfortunately, what you are describing is probably the next version of the iphone. I'm not sure if Nokia "get's it", they don't realize they need a "super phone" (best hardware and software) to win back their reputation which was self inflicted (e72 stability, n97, n900 early death)

What cannot be denied is that Apple continue to add the latest hardware to each revision.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but adding led flash, front camera, underclocked A8 with SGX535 is not the latest. The screen yes, since they had to quadruple the resolution in order for the older apps to work for which they had no choice especially by keeping the shitty ratio.

sachin007 2010-09-08 23:58
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It is looking increasingly unlikely that the N9 will be announced at nokia world. Especially i am surprised at the lack of leaks of specs.... something is not right.

riahc3 2010-09-09 01:18
Re: N9 technical specifications appeared rumoured
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 811155)
It is looking increasingly unlikely that the N9 will be announced at nokia world. Especially i am surprised at the lack of leaks of specs.... something is not right.
and on top of that:

http://www.gaj-it.com/24377/nokia-n9...t-nokia-world/

maxximuscool 2010-09-09 01:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sachin007 (Post 811155)
It is looking increasingly unlikely that the N9 will be announced at nokia world. Especially i am surprised at the lack of leaks of specs.... something is not right.
Nokia connecting people but expecting delay...As usual

shady 2010-09-09 14:50
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now nokia is REALLY on the ball ... A-15 eagle (which announced TI as a partner months ago) has been officially announced and will be ready come 2013! and according to the road map the A9 arch is about to see some releases this year, exciting!: http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/393/armroadmap.png

looking good :) fingers-X ... i hope there is no delay and i hope that they had foresight enough to have stellar hardware, and not also ran hardware.

in order for MeeGo to establish itself as a competitor, esp as the nerd.alt which is the air where it would be most successful, it needs to have hardware as discerning as its potential owners. but entering at a disadvantage to the WinMo7 hardware (also entering the scene) and potential Android upgrades ... eventually (same product cycle) will be more than a marketing mistake. it will create the framework with which ppl associate the software. first impressions and all that ...

tissot 2010-09-09 15:23
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Doesn't really belong to this thread but wont be opening new one for this.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...i/fsdfsfsf.jpg
It doesn't look like E7 or N9 to me. So what is it(top left corner)?
http://twitpic.com/2i4igl/full

lma 2010-09-09 19:13
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Looks a bit like what you'd get if you crossed a N900 with a 7710...

SAABoy 2010-09-09 22:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 811788)
Doesn't really belong to this thread but wont be opening new one for this.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...i/fsdfsfsf.jpg
It doesn't look like E7 or N9 to me. So what is it(top left corner)?
http://twitpic.com/2i4igl/full
wow, that looks crazy...

nilchak 2010-09-09 22:13
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Does it not look like all N8's ? The florescent ones (2) somehow look a bit bigger - maybe the E series version.

maxximuscool 2010-09-09 22:19
Re: N9 technical specifications appeared rumoured
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 811788)
Doesn't really belong to this thread but wont be opening new one for this.
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/b...i/fsdfsfsf.jpg
It doesn't look like E7 or N9 to me. So what is it(top left corner)?
http://twitpic.com/2i4igl/full
Is it me or just the picture makes all of those devices look like they all have the same shape but different size and thickness?

The design is identicle!!! o.O ugly

NikiSk 2010-09-10 06:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 811788)
It doesn't look like E7 or N9 to me. So what is it(top left corner)?
http://twitpic.com/2i4igl/full
A portable hard drive? ;)

quingu 2010-09-12 16:49
Re: N9 technical specifications appeared rumoured
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 811788)
Doesn't really belong to this thread but wont be opening new one for this.
It doesn't look like E7 or N9 to me. So what is it(top left corner)?
That would be a portable battery pack, I'd guess.

ScottishDuck 2010-09-13 03:46
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Ugh... 1GHz A8. Once again behind the curve.

Ayle 2010-09-13 03:57
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Originally Posted by ScottishDuck (Post 814582)
Ugh... 1GHz A8. Once again behind the curve.
How? What you said sounds quite uninformed.

CormacB 2010-09-13 10:11
Re: N9 technical specifications appeared rumoured
 
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Originally Posted by Ayle (Post 814587)
How? What you said sounds quite uninformed.
The N900 has a Cortex A8 which you can run at 1Ghz quite easily. A Cortex A9 (or equivalent) at > 1Ghz would be much better, and will probably be the high end standard next year

Lullen 2010-09-13 10:32
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The Cortex A8 at 1ghz is not the same as our A8 overclocked to 1ghz. The new A8 is built dimensions wich means better preformance and lower battery usage

Deaconclgi 2010-09-13 11:23
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It also matters if the GPU is more powerful or not. CPU speed will only do so much for you. The GPU will take care of the UI, video and games. Hopefully they will use the most powerful GPU that can be combined with the A8.

tissot 2010-09-14 14:52
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Would love to see this CBD(clear black display) in N9 as well.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....--engadget.jpg
(E7 in left with CBD and n8 with AMOLED screen in right)
Problem might be if it's not availabe for ~854x480 resolution. Same as S AMOLED isn't(pentile screens).

Jedibeeftrix 2010-09-14 16:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayle (Post 814587)
How? What you said sounds quite uninformed.
because the GPU used in the TI Omap3 SoC's is the SGX530, which is already less powerful than the current Samsung/Apple SoC's which currently sport the SGX535.

given that the MeeGo app/games market is likely to start very small, it will receive cheap ports at best which means it needs a performance advantage.

The new hummingbird chip uses the SGX540 gpu, and will be turning up in phones very soon.

This is why Nokia need Omap4, not just for the dual-core A9 CPU, but because it too incorporates the SGX 540 GPU.

tissot 2010-09-14 16:40
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Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 815956)
The new hummingbird chip uses the SGX540 gpu, and will be turning up in phones very soon.
Hummingbird with SGX540 is already inside my Galaxy S and in Wave also.

NOMOS 2010-09-15 00:19
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CBD nHD is not pentile. good

Jedibeeftrix 2010-09-15 08:41
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Originally Posted by NOMOS (Post 816426)
CBD nHD is not pentile. good
sorry, what's "pentile"?

i like 16:9, so i hope Nokia moves to 960x540, i.e. one quarter of full HD.

Rauha 2010-09-15 08:45
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Originally Posted by Jedibeeftrix (Post 816666)
sorry, what's "pentile"?
Samsung screen technology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PenTile_matrix_family

phr 2010-09-18 09:00
Re: N9 technical specifications appeared rumoured
 
Nokia swapped out its CEO for a Microsoft guy last week. I wonder if that had anything to do with the delays. Maybe the N9 will switch from Meego to WinCE.

mikecomputing 2010-09-18 10:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phr (Post 819606)
Nokia swapped out its CEO for a Microsoft guy last week. I wonder if that had anything to do with the delays. Maybe the N9 will switch from Meego to WinCE.
You have to be kidding LOL

And btw. what delays are u talking about?

tissot 2010-09-18 10:40
Re: N9 technical specifications appeared rumoured
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by phr (Post 819606)
Nokia swapped out its CEO for a Microsoft guy last week. I wonder if that had anything to do with the delays. Maybe the N9 will switch from Meego to WinCE.
I shouldn't even comment on these anymore and i can't be bothered to write all what Ollila and others have said already, but we wont be seeing wp7 inside Nokia phones.
I wont say ever but for the next 3 years, no.

It's funny that this guy have been working for Microsoft only for 2 years and hold many other positions as well but suddenly he is Steve Ballmer himself. It also tells me that people have no idea as how many agreements with example chip makers and work for services and software Nokia would need to do to make wp7 a platform for Nokia.
Something that Nokia has been working for years for Symbian, Harmattan and work done for qt altready.

Mike, Eldar Murtazin started rumour about N9 coming out in q1 rather than q4 this year. I wouldn't be too worried yet as he said the same about N900.

shady 2010-09-20 15:01
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the n900 was announced or shown already this time last year ...

tissot 2010-09-20 16:23
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Originally Posted by shady (Post 821522)
the n900 was announced or shown already this time last year ...
MeeGo announcements will be this year like said in the Nokia World keynote. Release date have been said to be 2H this year by two Nokia execs so lets see.

MeeGo a no-show at NokiaWorld, but CTO says it's "critically important

Quote:
The reason why MeeGo didn't figure prominently in Nokia's announcements during the event, he explained, is because the company isn't ready to disclose specific MeeGo product plans yet. He says that Nokia is becoming more disciplined about how it presents its roadmap and articulates its product strategy. The company will only talk about products that are ready to ship, rather than products that are in the pipeline.
This was the first thing Vanjoki said when he got his position as head of Nokia's Mobile Solutions in January this year. Anybody who have followed Nokia in the past knows the pain of device getting announced 6 months before the release.

Lullen 2010-09-20 16:56
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Maybe they announce it later so it will come to market faster from when its announced. I think I have heared something like that so I am not afraid that they will release it in 2011

Dave999 2010-09-20 17:01
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HoHoHo...If n9 will reach the market before the end of this year. I don't see how nokia can wait to present the new phone...I want the new phone before christmas.

Regards,
Santa

automagic68 2010-09-20 20:02
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Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 821623)
HoHoHo...If n9 will reach the market before the end of this year. I don't see how nokia can wait to present the new phone...I want the new phone before christmas.

Regards,
Santa
Would Nokia dare to disappoint St. Nick?

djs_tx 2010-09-20 20:25
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Originally Posted by tissot (Post 821584)
This was the first thing Vanjoki said when he got his position as head of Nokia's Mobile Solutions in January this year. Anybody who have followed Nokia in the past knows the pain of device getting announced 6 months before the release.
This definitely used to kill me with high end Nokias... When the device was announced 6 months before you could buy it, it usually meant I would hesitate to buy what was available because the "next thing" was already hitting the rumor mill. Why buy now when you know there is a cooler one just around the corner?

shady 2010-09-20 23:26
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the longer they wait, the more obsolete it will look when announced.

A9 + 128GB storage + 1280/720res

it should be a beast to rule H1 in 2011, but in my personal opinion it will be hardware found in devices that came out either during or before the summer. ie, before the iphone 4 ... i hope the "delack of announcement" was to upgrade the system board. TI is a HUGE sponsor of meego-fest 2010 i hope they arent showing up to just show off their old tech, esp when the new fabs are about to hit production. something fishy about reusing an A8, and the attention TI is giving this product release.

3beers 2010-09-21 08:11
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I'm sure that we won't see any meego device released this year. I think it won't be released neither in Q1 2011. the reason that make me believe this is today Handset Test Report on N900: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Handse...ptance20100921

Browsing website over 3G (WCDMA) - Not support in meego 1.1 release.

Not able to shut down the Device(N900) via power button - Temporary solution, should be handled somewhere else in stack for 1.2.

meego 1.2 is expected to be ready in April 2011.

What do you think . we will see a meego phone in Q1 2011 or it will be postponed until end of Q2 2011?

jsomby 2010-09-21 08:22
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Its totally different to release some specs of hi-end device than manufacturing actually even one or more to show off without heavily bugs... story of nokia: Delays after delays.

They promise future device now, but when it's actually on market there are several equal or more powerful devices already.

sunwong 2010-09-21 08:41
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Originally Posted by 3beers (Post 822083)
I'm sure that we won't see any meego device released this year. I think it won't be released neither in Q1 2011. the reason that make me believe this is today Handset Test Report on N900: http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Handse...ptance20100921

Browsing website over 3G (WCDMA) - Not support in meego 1.1 release.

Not able to shut down the Device(N900) via power button - Temporary solution, should be handled somewhere else in stack for 1.2.

meego 1.2 is expected to be ready in April 2011.

What do you think . we will see a meego phone in Q1 2011 or it will be postponed until end of Q2 2011?
These are current issues with 1.1 Meego on N900 device, nothing to do with the N9 current Meego status as It won't have this OS, but Meego-Harmattan, it has been commented a few times..

My bet anyhow is that it will indeed be postponed to Q2, but for other reasons than the OS

3beers 2010-09-21 09:17
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Originally Posted by sunwong (Post 822101)
These are current issues with 1.1 Meego on N900 device, nothing to do with the N9 current Meego status as It won't have this OS, but Meego-Harmattan, it has been commented a few times..

My bet anyhow is that it will indeed be postponed to Q2, but for other reasons than the OS
oh. so you say that the N9 will have the future version of maemo branded as meego? so it means that it will be debian based and not fedora?


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