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We shall wait and see..
Steve, we got our eyes on you. Don't let is down.

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stock is doing great
i think it is a good time to buy b/c if Nokia announce good products on Tuesday and Wednesday they will go through the roof on the other hand if the new products suck then.......

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Perhaps my N900 saw this coming. It had been freezing at least once per day for the last week. Was it really just trying to protect itself from impending viruses?

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As a Linux guy, this makes me.... nervous. Still, I'm willing to let the guy's actions speak for themselves...

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I think buy/sell or pump/dump investment advice really belongs to another forum and at least another section (OT?).

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now I am starting to get it why here are so much arguing etc.different people are from different planets. I kinda wished tru3 un1x p3ople would have grown up in 5+ years after the charm of a new thing has vanished but no.

there is no Microsoft behind the move. it is all about persons. they consider their options work chores vs salary. People in microsoft aren't working there because they want to enslave every single linux idiot....

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I liked that Finnish way of doing things after all. Farewell Espoo?

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Let's hope that is not just wishfull thinking.
There is also a thread about delayed N9. Let's hope CEO-change has nothing to do with it.

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I just wish Ansi Vanjokki would be the chosen one.

He seems like a guy that talks some sense and he was ready to admit many of the faults. I felt much better when he was giving interviews than OPK...

If in a year he has not done much to turn a company with a multi-billion dollar bank account he is as incompetent as the one that is now. The tech-pundits started this lets-replace-OPK-with-a-North-American one year or so ago when Nokia could not bring something credible to the table.

But if with all of this he still does not bring anything to table at least we have a theme song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAYMJnO9LBQ

Anyway, all we have left is this new guy. I truly wish him the best and hope he can bring Nokia back.

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are you serious? :D

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New CEO thinks there's a range of experiences to be delivered. Too early to say what combo of platforms for each. Where to emphasize which is a question. Seemed to be talking about internal platforms, not for example Android. I missed some other relevant comments.

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Nokia are in a transition into a Software Company makes sense hiring someone whose background is software to be leading them.
the last couple of years nokia have failed on software from services all the way down to specific device firmware, hopefully he will put a change to release of half baked service and firmware releases.
The OS strategy is as good as set in stone Nokia invested too much in purchasing Qt, Symbian and investing in MeeGo to change that

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I listenned the second half of the press conference. The last questions where about the smartphone market. He was making broad statement so it was difficult to know what he is up to:

- about Microsoft and Nokia : he can help with better communication. Coopetition : cooperation on the services, like Office for symbian, competition in "other area" (windows phone 7 obviously).

- about MeeGo and Symbian, platform strategy : you need a range of platform to adress every market from [dumb] phones to smartphone. To soon to tell what the change could be...

I didn't had the feeling he was willing to drop the current platforms (android was mentionned in the question)

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I think he is smart enough to focus on the truly troublesome areas for nokia.

-the software services need a lot of improvement. The Ovi store for Symbian is currently the most successful online software product together with Ovi maps for Symbian when looking at the amount of users. But both can still be improved a lot! Ovi music really needs to be pushed hard, needs to function much better and needs to be more easily available. Ovi files has already been killed, ovi mail has been ported to Yahoo mail and I suspect that ovi share will not last long, since I don't think many people use it (I don't know anybody)

-presence in the US. Nokia really needs get a higher market share in the US. Preferably with high-end devices. Mostly because of the media attention that product that are successful in the US get.

-Nokia needs to react faster. The Palm pre and iPhone 3GS have similar hardware and software specs to the N900, but it were released almost 6 month earlier. This makes a huge difference in the perception of people. Nokias high-end phone should also be perceived as "state of the art". I think that the N95 was the last Nokia device to be perceived as state of the art, mostly because of the build-in GPS, wifi and 3D OpenGL graphics (no other device had that mix of features in 2007, things change very fast indeed!)


-I don't think Nokia's platform strategy will change. The N9 (based on Maemo 6 / MeeGo compatible UX), will be released by the end of the year, and changing that now will just cost a lot of money, it is way too late to make huge changes. Maybe if the N9 is a complete commercial failure (like the the MS kin), that the platform strategy on the high-end will be changed (Android or WIndows Phone 7), but it definitely won't change anything for the N9 device. On the mid-range and low-end the strategy will definitely not change. Nokia is successful with Symbian in this market segment. That is where Nokia makes it's money. Changing that any time soon will put the entire company at risk

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According to finnish tabloids:

-He is a huge ice-hockey fan.
-Doesn't like salmiakki,
-Apparently has been travelling with Ollila for past month or so
-Ollila made him read tons about finnish history and culture.
-Ollila plans to resign after the transition period with new CEO is over.
-Did we mention he likes ice hockey? Oh well, let's just mention that in every article at least twice.

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huh who cares - nokia doesnt give a flying toss about the n900 anyhow, as noted here many times its only the community now - Nokia is out of the picture (unless you are THAT much of an optimist)

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I don't trust Microsoft... All they want to do is spread their OS and bloatware everywhere, we'll see Nokia's running *shiver* Windows Mobile before you can say blue screen of death

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YES! illuminati, nwo, rockafellas etc FTW!

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don't forget the Bilderberg Group lol

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Well, at least Nokia is still making money. Those bwankers were still getting their insane "bonuses" even when the whole economy was falling down around them.

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Press conference video can be viewed here http://www.nokia.com/press/media_res...nokia-webcasts

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For me these are very bad news.
Bad for meego open source because this guy is all for proprietary software.
Bad for symbian for the same reasons
Bad for any final hope of an alternative for this thought that all software has to came from states.

One of the biggest problems of nokia is a war lead by all American carriers, bloggers, news agencies, journalists to any idea of something that it’s not made in Silicon Valley. The inclusion of this potato head has a top general of nokia can’t be read has anything but a final capitulation.

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Read here.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07...nifesto_risku/

And then think is having ANOTHER American a good idea. Industry experts would argue not perhaps. Given MS can't organise mobile communication devices and their policy and internal politics can't bring anything of worth to market, not sure Nokia are going in the right direction.

I pity the firm and I my signature even more than ever, stands.

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Hey folks... let's get this right.

Stephen Elop is CANADIAN...

All of this "American" this and "American" that is utterly wasted because of that prior bit of knowledge. And if anything else, it shows that you think that Nokia is weak enough to bow down to bloggers and so-called popular whims.

I doubt that. But the rest... get it right. Canadian. Like RIM/Blackberry... and maple syrup.

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Who cares where he is from.

My only reservation is that he seems to have very similar background as OPK (good in business & management). I would've liked someone with more of the stuff that OPK was lacking (technology vision).

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Calm down already ossipena.

People (probably) more experienced than you have up to three decades' worth of history with Microsoft's corporate mono culture and also their executives' post-MS tradition of "corporate networking".

Do you reckon people who join Microsoft are either unaware or unsupportive of Microsoft's key corporate objectives of owning (proprietary) "standards" (data formats, protocols etc.) and wiping the floor with all competition, especially of the dangerous open-source kind.

There's little if anything in this guy's CV to suggest that he actually gets Linux and Open Source or open and standards-based collaboration (which also includes Qt, a key technology for Nokia, at least currently) or Nokia's old strength: hardware!

Equally little about him screams charisma (whether we like it or not, a desirable trait in today's world of CEOs).

Does he have experience or connections to fix the issue of lack of early or volume access to some of the latest hardware technologies that are being developed and manufactured in the far east (at key competitors' doorstep, or increasingly by them)?

The "linux idiots" you malign here en masse tend to compute plusses and minuses and whatever their experience tells and end up with rather understandable suspicion, yet tempered by the willing to give this guy a chance to prove himself.

If you've really got unbearable issues with that I can't help you.

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background is software, he is a Software engineer

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one canadian that lives in the states and works in microsoft is for sure an american.

of course nokia is weak enough to bow down to bloggers, jornalists, operators , etc. who isn’t? ultimately this sort of people can put countries on their knees and companies even more easily.

rim/blackberry i’ll pass definitely.

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I didn't really mean education, altough OPK had engineer degree as well, but more as in the kind of executive work he has done, which seem to be more in management than technology leadership.

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I hope NvyUs is right, rather than some of the more nervous commenters. My first response to the news was of course "Microsoft!? But what about open-source?"

OK, time will tell...:confused:

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Hm. Is Canada now afloat on its own land mass or what?

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He's been a senior executive at Microsoft, Adobe and Macromedia.

So there is something worse than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

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I have mixed feelings about this - of course as an outsider and not dealing with Company stategies in my daily life :D I can't really judge it objectively - but just an a end user of Nokia products and Nokia philosophy I am not too optimistic about this move.

At least if nothing else - with OPK we knew he was behind the Meego push - as Nokia said so openly that Meego was going to drive its high-end products.

OPK was behind the Symbian push to open source land also - as Nokia very clearly laid down its strategies regarding Symbian development.

So these were known constants - as CEO he was allowing these moves to Open source Meego and open source Symbian and its further developments.

Now with this unknown variable of a new CEO - these strategies might change over the long run. Yes not in the short run - I am sure no new CEO will come in and dictate new changes immediately - but over the long run he might move away from trying a new untested OS and instead think about going back with the tried and tested - Symbian only again.

All of this is of course conjecture - but these could happen.
I would hate to see such changes - and we can only see them after 1-2 years time maybe if that happens. But for now I am sure looking forward to a Meego N9 (or whatever).

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Last time I checked, Canada was part of the American continent.

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To be correct you can say North American. We don't like when you are lazy and just say American...it portrays the country, not the continent.

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well Americans like to call us Europeans even though we like to be known by our National Identity not the Continent we are on, so its just a taste of their own medicine.

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To those making unsubtantiated comments making wild inferences about:

- Having worked for Microsoft
- Having the name 'Steve'
- non finnish

"Oh hush already!"


Let's wait for facts. Go find something else to waste your time on rather than continuing with nonsensical hyphotesis.

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I don't get it how you think a new CEO can cjust change everything.

First of all he was just working for microsoft..receiving a (very big) paycheck like everyone else. What makes you think that he still owes anything to them and will try to bring Windows Mobile to Nokia?

Secondly I doubt Nokia would have appointed this guy if he has intentions to destroy their work for four years. He will not destroy the internet tablets and Nokia will never abandon Symbian and Meego to adopt Windows.

Plus the directors get a say in decisions too. And I haven't heard of them changing.

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Yes but we are not calling you Romanian instead of European. You calling us American instead of North American is completely different.

In the end I think this will be a good thing...as the markets are already showing...a change of leadership seemed to be needed.

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Hush yourself! You're bringing me down here, man. I'm busy working my way through a lengthy list of large tech companies, sending each of them a copy of my birth certificate. There's obviously at least one tech CEO position out there with, well, my name on it.