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longcat 2010-10-14 08:59

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vickyg (Post 840702)
I think they will release PR 1.3 before 21st October.
As Meego 1.1 release is schedule for 21st October to have it in our devices we need a dual boot solution.

yeah, that's the reason why nokia simply must release it now :P
otherwise we won't be able to boot meego

d4k007 2010-10-14 09:07

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Excellent News!

Looking forward to trying the new OS. Although with all the extra's installed on maemo and the overclock I think it'll have a lot to compete with. Maemo itself is an excellent OS.

Its always the way you get your device set up exactly as you want it and they release something to temp you LOL.

:):):)

twigleaf1976 2010-10-14 09:25

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Interesting to see Meego comments, might even make the N900 usable, assuming lessons learned with Maemo are not taken forward into Meego.

Hope yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by acvetkov (Post 840555)
damn where are all the whine trolls now :cool:

Even people who hate the phone and think it is crap want PR1.3 to come out, so at least it might fix some of the bugs that litter the OS, so not sure why anyone would whine about 1.3 finally coming out?

But it ain't here yet, no one knows exaxctly what is going to be in it till it is here and what lies beyond it? Could be utter pants that corrupts everyones phone afterall, it coule be a hack to fix the hack that the community created to stop them grabbing information from your phone in 1.2. It could be a 'lip service' patch with no real substance, just to keep the capitulating and swooning fanbois happy. At least Nokia can then say "Well you had a 1.3"

Matan 2010-10-14 09:30

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 840659)
Keep in mind that 1.1 will be just about usable.

So will it have a working xterm?

afaq 2010-10-14 09:35

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I have nothing useful to add to this thread other than its been a pretty bad week at work and this news made my morning so much better! :D

longcat 2010-10-14 09:38

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
it's interesting that pr1.3 is coming about 5 months after pr1.2

that's okay i guess ?

cjp 2010-10-14 09:44

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I am SO surprised.

I looked for my comment about predictions for PR 1.3 because it was so insanely negative that it would show you guys just how surprised I am.

This is excellent news! Albeit I'm still a bit skeptical if PR 1.3 is in fact "close" ... ;)

vivmak 2010-10-14 09:45

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
i am about to cry. 1.3 is comming, excellent.
But what other wonders it is going to bring? ovi maps with navigation, voice dial, flash 10.x . lets wait before we celebrate?

SirMuttley 2010-10-14 09:48

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Expectations set to low

longcat 2010-10-14 09:51

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
it will be fun next few days idling here hitting f5 until someone says - it's out!

if nokia had balmer he would dance and chant - updates, updates, updates...

F2thaK 2010-10-14 10:11

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SirMuttley (Post 840750)
Expectations set to low

im with you on this !!

atilla 2010-10-14 10:17

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
i peed in my pants if i had read this..........

lma 2010-10-14 10:17

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 840620)
Also, for good measure, dual boot isn't 'easily', what's being included in PR1.3 kernel is kexec functionality. [...]
The verdict on what specific technology to use for actual multiboot is still up in the air, but we're bordering on u-boot

Thanks for going for the best for the long term and sanest option :-)

ifraaz 2010-10-14 10:22

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Finally we have been waiting for this for so long ! YAY for Nokia . I thought they had forgotten about Maemo ! :) lol

atilla 2010-10-14 10:25

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
a integrated dualboot option would be really epic.
i guess it would be the first time you see a firmware update on a phone which allows you to dualboot.
n900 writes history!!!
i'm ****in love it

hara 2010-10-14 10:45

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vivmak (Post 840748)
i am about to cry. 1.3 is comming, excellent.
But what other wonders it is going to bring? ovi maps with navigation, voice dial, flash 10.x . lets wait before we celebrate?

REMOVED, I'm a troll

longcat 2010-10-14 10:48

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hara (Post 840779)
Sorry to say, but none of those. Flash10 is NOT coming with pr1.3.

and you would be someone from nokia ?

hara 2010-10-14 10:50

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 840782)
and you would be someone from nokia ?

Absolutely not, my name is Steve Jobbz

ossipena 2010-10-14 10:55

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vivmak (Post 840748)
i am about to cry. 1.3 is comming, excellent.
But what other wonders it is going to bring? ovi maps with navigation, voice dial, flash 10.x . lets wait before we celebrate?

excuse me? atleast I've only celebrated about the fact that Nokia enables multiboot to meego. but this is how it goes with every PR: someone has really unrealistic expectations and as soon as update is rolled out, you can see them trollin' and hatin' all over tmo...

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 10:56

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
The most saddest news is ISO and camera function will not be fixed and nothing will be added to it as well. Which mean no extra function to the camera app and No FIXED to the bunged camera app.

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?...84#add_comment

gabby131 2010-10-14 10:58

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
first the flash 10 from TI thing, now this.....meego and PR 1.3

someone please pinch me!

longcat 2010-10-14 11:02

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hara (Post 840783)
Yes, I work for the company.

K, can you tell us when will update go for masses, where is changelog, official announce, what exactly are good things about pr1.3 if there is no long awaited flash 10?

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 11:03

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I hope the new kernel came with more options to it like wifi hotspot enable so then we don't have to install Power Kernel just to get this hotspot working properly. Jukuspot cost money and not always working but I prefer the Community version instead. Realistically, hoping to see more extra enabled functions for the community to take advantage of.

I really wish Nokia would just release the drivers and everything to the tmo lol. Would be the dream come true. truely opened source

mece 2010-10-14 11:04

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aligatro (Post 840583)

Yes, I tried it. You can't boot to UI directly with that one due to bug #8330. Fixed now though. Wait for a new image next Wednesday or roll your own.

Raubtier 2010-10-14 11:15

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
i am a n900 owner, but unlike the clear majority of geeks here i am not technically skilled :-) i have the following questions:

1) what does it mean to be able to "dual boot both maemo and meego" on the n900? does it mean i get to choose between maemo and everything i have on there and meego on a screen after turning on the n900? having both os with saved stuff doesnt fill the n900 storage capacities?!

2) what limitations will meego have running on n900 given that the n9 is more powerfull in terms of hardware?

hara 2010-10-14 11:15

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 840790)
K, can you tell us when will update go for masses, where is changelog, official announce, what exactly are good things about pr1.3 if there is no long awaited flash 10?

No idea, I'm only a troll

sdesai 2010-10-14 11:23

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hara (Post 840797)
As an employee I must obey to Nokia's rules. One of those are, that release dates of updates are not published outside the company. I can only confirm pr1.3 will be released.

Changelog is accessible only for internals at the moment.

No OVI Maps again?? should hv got some low end device like 5230 rather than spending so much in N900 and not yet hving turn by turn. Thought nokia has learned and would correct in 1.3 but alas was wrong. Pretty bad !! :mad:

longcat 2010-10-14 11:24

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hara (Post 840797)
Changelog is accessible only for internals at the moment.

If that is so - why are you telling us that there will be no ovi maps, fl10.1, etc ?

nos4A2 2010-10-14 11:25

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Hi, thanks a lot for providing us the info, can u confirm if the inbuilt dual-boot will be included?? And can you confirm or deny if the features mentioned in the rest of this thread will be included or not (as you did with flash inclusion)??..Thanks

sdesai 2010-10-14 11:27

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 840800)
If that is so - why are you telling us that there will be no ovi maps, fl10.1, etc ?

exactly ! if ur sayin no ovi no fl then why is 1.3 coming out anyway??

ossipena 2010-10-14 11:28

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by longcat (Post 840800)
If that is so - why are you telling us that there will be no ovi maps, fl10.1, etc ?

bending the rules a bit?

sdesai 2010-10-14 11:29

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 840804)
bending the rules a bit?

or may b someone just fooling around

longcat 2010-10-14 11:29

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
lol :) bending the truth a bit ?

nos4A2 2010-10-14 11:31

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sdesai (Post 840805)
or may b someone just fooling around

All his/her posts seem to be mainly technical..no trolling.. however we can't be sure..

Larswad 2010-10-14 11:33

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
I'm very glad like everyone else here in this thread about the news of MeeGo at N900. The N900 is the best device they've ever made.

However, one thing confuses me a bit, what way is Nokia going to take when they now have both Symbian 3 and MeeGo. Are they going to divide their phones in two segments, where some get Symbian, and some get MeeGo. Isn't that somewhat confusing on their market focus, especially since they should keep themselves strong in the competition, iOS, Android and now Windows Mobile 7.
I'm curious about what strategy they have in mind.

longcat 2010-10-14 11:34

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
No, my point was not to intrigue, but to analyze this :

if nokia has internal policy about not specifying facts about product releases and updates, how comes that it does specify what the product won't contain ? Maybe i'm missing something ...

rash.m2k 2010-10-14 11:35

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raubtier (Post 840796)
i am a n900 owner, but unlike the clear majority of geeks here i am not technically skilled :-) i have the following questions:

1) what does it mean to be able to "dual boot both maemo and meego" on the n900? does it mean i get to choose between maemo and everything i have on there and meego on a screen after turning on the n900? having both os with saved stuff doesnt fill the n900 storage capacities?!

2) what limitations will meego have running on n900 given that the n9 is more powerfull in terms of hardware?

1) Yeah pretty much, normally if the keyboard is open then you see a menu otherwise it just loads Maemo. There's plenty of space on the internal 32GB for Meego or on the memory card - I wouldn't worry too much.

2) Probably run a little slower - but the N900 is still very powerful and it will run it just as well.

maxximuscool 2010-10-14 11:36

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hara (Post 840797)
As an employee I must obey to Nokia's rules. One of those are, that release dates of updates are not published outside the company. I can only confirm pr1.3 will be released.

Changelog is accessible only for internals at the moment.

Ifyou are a Nokia employee then show us you batch. No batch is no proof and so not genuine. Therefore you are just messing with out mentality at its current state of weakness.

Changelog is accessible only inside Nokia, that is true with every company out there. Internal work will not be revealed to outside world and PR1.3 will be released eventually. We all know that and we all know that anyone out there could have faking it for the sake to get KUDO thanks counts from people on the forum.

So if there is no proof of your Nokia employement then I'm not convinced.

nos4A2 2010-10-14 11:37

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larswad (Post 840813)
I'm very glad like everyone else here in this thread about the news of MeeGo at N900. The N900 is the best device they've ever made.

However, one thing confuses me a bit, what way is Nokia going to take when they now have both Symbian 3 and MeeGo. Are they going to divide their phones in two segments, where some get Symbian, and some get MeeGo. Isn't that somewhat confusing on their market focus, especially since they should keep themselves strong in the competition, iOS, Android and now Windows Mobile 7.
I'm curious about what strategy they have in mind.

If you have noticed, nokia has put all their eggs in the open source basket (symbian foundation and meego), so i guess they want two shots, just in case..also their strategy seems to be meego on high end phones and symbian on bread and butter phones.. And complete app interoperability with QT..

patlak 2010-10-14 11:38

Re: Some wonderful news considering N900, MeeGo, PR 1.3 and other good stuff
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hara (Post 840779)
Sorry to say, but none of those. Flash10 is NOT coming with pr1.3.

How about in PR 1.4 :D


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