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so does installing this override the 'stable' firefox, or do they install independently? I want to try this out but not if it means losing the current version.

Also, for browser discussion, Macuco is pretty good too. I have opera, firefox and macuco and although i invariably use microb, i use all of them depending on what i need the web for.

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The browser is still too 'bouncy' tapping on the link slides to the menu or tab views. Would be nice if you had to pull them out like microb imo

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Which one is better? Qt or GTK ?

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My experience was that the GTK versions (nightlys) were more stable about a week ago. I've moved to the GTK versions since that time. I would prefer to use the Qt version, since it is... well Qt. Fennec Qt is included in the MeeGo 1.1 handset release.

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I've installed qt version, nothing new and its not that fast either, gonna try gtk now

p.s. anyone knows a command in about:config to chage useragent to desktop ff ? its annoying

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This thread seems to have something regarding changing the useragent. Hope this helps.

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Happy to see Fennec/FF get better and better. But....
Keyboard shortcut are must-have for me.
Also, switching tabs using keyboard should be supported - even Java base web browser like UCWeb does nicely.

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whats the build guys? It shows me as Firefox 3.6.5pre/Fennec 1.1 from about browser. Is this the latest one announced on 10/4? I installed it from www.mozilla.com/en-US/m/beta

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Here goes the direct link:
http://moff.mozilla.com/latest-beta/.../binary-armel/

1.1 is ooold beta. I don't know how Mozilla managed to point you to it. Some out-of-date link. New beta is version 2, recently renamed to 4 to match desktop Firefox.

You will get 4.0b2 at
http://moff.mozilla.com/latest-beta/.../binary-armel/

However, as posted above in this thread, you can get nightly (the most recent, daily updated) version 4.0b3pre

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That's been there for ages - several versions.

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Fennec will be the best browser for Maemo if they can solve the resource hogs. Which i think are the main reason why people have different experience how fast it is. Functional wise it is awesome.

I miss a cursor mode though.. or some good way of selecting text and similar. I like the MicroB zooming better.. don't like when it autozoom on click (guess it is an option i can change somewhere).

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hy guys usually ,if I downloaded from fennec previous version.Downloaded item stored at document folder.but its weird . cause it doesn't shown under document folder.
so where is it? item which has downloaded .
thanx

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Same here. Firefox 1.1 has been my default browser since it came out because of the terrific UI and because it handles some webportal-type sites I use for work much better than MicroB . I'd like to try the v4 nightlies but can't risk trashing v1.1 in the process. So if anyone has successfully installed the beta alongside stable 1.1 I'd like to know how to do it.

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Same here. I installed it twice just to make sure I wasn't seeing things (second time I made sure to uninstall the existing version before reinstalling).

Then when I did "apt-get -s upgrade" it shows the 4beta3 as being available for upgrade so I did an upgrade and at last I have this beta installed.

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Answer #2 of the faq:

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Anyone else having problem with loading pages. Maybe half of the pages i try to load give me a error that firefox cannot load the page. Same problem with beta 2 and this.

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I like UI of MicroB better, and the swirl-zoom is great of course. However, I like the tabs a lot in Fennec. And of course the more modern rendering/javascript engines.

I think Fennec uses way too much RAM and N900 simply doesn't have enough available memory to handle it much of the time. Just like everything else on N900, once you're hitting swap everything slows down like hell...

I wonder how it runs in Android? I thought android devices don't have swap. Perhaps the OS just has a smaller memory footprint.

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Installing beta/nightly Firefox from mozilla.com via application manager has not worked in like a year... you need to use apt or dpkg. I think app manager always goes for the ovi version instead no matter what's in the other repos.

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how can i open *.xpi by Fennec 4 beta 3 ,it`s always open by MicroB
i want install Plugins for Fennec without net.

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1. Open your folder in Fennec, type in the address bar:
/home/user/...........
2. If after finding the folder and clicking the file Fennec:
ignores/downloads/opens with MicroB
this file, then Fennec still has the bug.
You might have to install Firefox 1.1 in order to install an .xpi and then install Fennec 4 to see whether the add-on/extension works with the latest version.

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Wheres the portrait virtual keyboard though?! :(

Why do browsers incl MicroB offer portrait browsing without the fecking portrait keyboard!

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Is there a way to clear browsing history and remove the tab bar at the bottom when entering text i

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3 people already asked and got no reply. How does one enable Flash in the nightly build? Or is it impossible?
Someone please answer this. Thanks.

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Been using the new beta for long enough to say, "Wow, what an improvement". Hopefully the development keeps building in the right direction, some performance tweaks and whatnot and the final could be a winner in the mFF vs MicroB stakes.

I was slightly disheartened by the near unusable mess of the first official release but this has just pricked my interest.

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Still run like shyt. Slow as hell like usual. Takes forever to load up my page and that is unacceptable. BMicro load up almost instantly.

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Where can I download the last beta2. I tried to go to the link above, but there is a newer version which has some problems. Instead, when I go here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/m/beta I get the "package not found" problem. Can somebody help me?

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Here you get latest beta:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o...mo5-gtk/multi/

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microb is in the faster flash memory, of course it loads faster. your post is unacceptable. why don't you say thanks to the developers at least? rome wasn't built in a day.

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MicroB is also pre-launched when the OS starts up. (MicroB's "browserd" process runs silently in the background all the time, so that browser windows can be opened faster.)

There's been some work on letting Fennec pre-start in the background like MicroB does: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572329

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I would be very glad if I could prevent MicroB, image-viewer, calendar, modest and others from such pre-launching. Is there a way to do it? I don't mind slow opening of window, and I dislike running a lot of applications in background when I use none of them.

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fennec beta 4 released anybody tried it?

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Link? I don't know the current repo for FF anymore.

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fremantle-qt>>ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/repos/trunk_en-US/dists/fremantle-qt/extras/binary-armel/
fremantle >>ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/repos/trunk_en-US/dists/fremantle/extras/binary-armel/

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Iunno, seems like the ff I had before. Kinda slow, slow startup, mobile site versions..

Iunno, opera and microb feel faster and easier.

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have installed beta 4 today and every site with flash content crashes.

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I'm gonna give it a shot, seems like a beta 4 release shouldn't have this crashing issue.

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What about WebGL.

Is it implemented?

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I am using the fennec 4 beta since beta 1 and I'm upgrading it every few days to the latest nightly build.

Its really fast to use already, and scrolling seems even smoother than with microb. Its also using slightly less memory (quite incredible) and I'm not even counting the mem usage of the browserd daemon that's always running.

Start-up time is ok, though not quite as fast as microB (and I doubt that it will ever be as fast as microb as it has its browserd daemon running all the time). But on the other hand I observed that while microb starts really fast, it takes a long time until it loads the first site, so I think that it still has to load its browsing engine. Therefore I think it doesn't really take any longer to display the first site on fennec even if the GUI starts up slower.

There are still some shortcomings though:
-There's no possibility to enable the mouse pointer you can activate to select text.
-Flash (should be fine later on though)
-not all plugins are working right now
-the chat panel in facebook (and similar panels on few other sites)
aren't staying on the bottom of the screen when scrolling

I still prefer to use fennec instead of microb, except for some sites like facebook or when I need to copy some text, etc...

Re: Fennec 4 beta 3
 

Those are nightly trunk builds. Beta 4 is not even in candidate stage yet. There are a lot of blocking bugs still outstanding:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist...-fennec:2.0b4+

Public released builds are placed here:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/mobile/releases/