Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

i want one!

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

Uhmmm! How to "nick" an old idea improve on it and run away with it years later. Or how an idea was ahead of its time for its own good!:p
Design-wise it is a much improved model for sure! No flaming please! I'm very fragile....:D

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

More like nicking the video out on the N8, as the dock has a hdmi and usb side by side. So basically it is video out via hdmi, and keyboard and mouse in via usb.

That redfly is more like a VNC session, as it sets up a virtual screen and transfers the data over the usb cable (this is why a later model introduced a separate video in port as the virtual screen can not handle proper video). And i recall there is a program for windows that can do the same, putting the winmob "desktop" in a window.

Hell, Microsoft toyed with a similar idea around the turn of the century for hooking a winmob phone up to a tv to provide "computing" to the developing world.

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

Is this for real or some kind of sick joke?
The price of pre-order is $150USD

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Atrix.../ref=de_a_smtd

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

From your link Notice that last bit, that means the low, low price of $149.99 will only be available with a (probably very expensive) contract.

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

it's pretty cheap consider the hardware inside it. $600 cash without contract :D Hell I would love to get one if it was a MeeGO device.

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

Speaking of "nicking" - (c) IBM MetaPad, circa 2002. :)

This is the direction I'd like to see Nokia heading in, with all their "mobile computer" mumbo jumbo. The mobile computer as a home computer would be satisfactory for many users who only need it for email, web browsing, instant messaging, document storage etc. Of course to offer this kind of functionality Nokia will require extensive, reliable and easy to use cloud services and sadly Nokia are years away from having that, if they ever have it. :(

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

Can someone elaborate on the security key situation? This phone is tempting to me if Nokia does not announce something soon but I don't want to support draconian anti-consumer lockdown practices.

What can and can't you do if they lock it down? Is it confirmed it will be locked down?

Would much rather support the next gen of Maemo / Meego assuming the hardware is good but getting tired of waiting. Especially waiting on EDGE on ATT.

David

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

It is a 1024-bit RSA key, breaking it is unlikely to happen during the lifespan of the universe barring blind luck or revolutions in factoring.

You cannot replace the kernel. This means if a version of Android requires a new kernel, for any reason, you cannot upgrade. And it's Motorola, barring a wild change in policy it is guaranteed to be locked down.

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I believe it's built into the hardware itself. So I doubt they would make a different hardware variant for unlocked versions.

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I think it would have to be blind, deaf, dumb, and drunk luck...

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While playing a mean pinball?

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I wish to see some day company selling descent devices but naked.
Made up of small replaceable components. Same revolution as PC has broken proprietary MAC idea for life. I'm just not getting why we, customers buying this s**t that something smaller should be locked by manufacturer. Because is so small? pff..

We all know how those devices are close to PC from tech point of view.
You could put whatever you like on it. iF you need to pay for commercial OS is up to you, but open source stuff would be also available.

PC came almost naturally on the market as a quick response to opponents as well. Why not on this form factor?

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

a gumstick with a 3g radio?

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did you get a discount (especially if you're in North America) for your unlocked phone?

if you're in the US, you won't. that's why subsidization is so popular here.

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

i was waiting for N9, now I'm thinking of getting it.. -.-

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http://www.engadget.com/motorola/atrix-4g-review/

Nice review but no mention of battery life? Or did I miss it?

also, $500 for the laptop dock?!!? what a waste of money.

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

I thought it was $500 subsidized with the dock?

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The N9 is out of question.
The Xperia Play is old in hardware.
The Atrix is locked out of the custom ROM game.

... anything revolutionary to come out in smartphones for power users??
(the Optimus 3D seems a gimmick)

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/07/l...mus-2x-review/

There is also Samsung and HTC with dual-core-CPU + 1GB RAM:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/13/s...er-amoled-plu/

http://htc-phones.net/att-will-launc...omb-phone.html

Nokia Windows phone with dual-core-CPU comes late in 2012, if MS gets WP8 ready by then and if Nokia is not in bankrupt - so maybe never.

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

This is cool:

Full Ubuntu running on the Atrix 4G!
http://www.xda-developers.com/wp-con...4G-238x190.jpg
http://www.xda-developers.com/androi...-on-the-atrix/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1000316

I assume this is running with the laptop dock, though I could be wrong -- there is no mention of VNC. Either way, it's a very neat project!

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

Are you paid by Motorola?

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No, no, I'm not! I use this forum as somewhat of a blogging outlet to post information that I find interesting and to extend the conversation.

In this case, I am really interested in Ubuntu on a mobile phone, as the implications are somewhat large.

The Atrix 4G has a laptop-dock, when coupled with Ubuntu becomes a laptop. Now, it may not be able to handle complex tasks, but it should be capable of simple productivity, which is very cool.

Mobile SoC devices will soon meet entry-level netbooks in terms of performance, which has very interesting implications!

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I just got a chance to see the Atrix 4G laptop dock. What an attractive package! The laptop dock is so thin, that it looks like it would make a fantastic travel companion for some serious productivity.

Here's what I would do to improve it:
1) Make the experience far better, with a scaled up Android, rather than a separate 'gimped' shell. This would keep file management, app selection, speed, and system updates far easier. If users want firefox or other linux apps, why not use the NDK to port it to Android with a simple X client/wrapper?

2) Move the 'dock' from the back of the device to the trackpad region . The phone is essentially a large touch screen, so why not make it the touchpad of the device? In this way, the touchpad could display context specific functionality for certain apps -- the visual touchpad. Also, I'm afraid someone will steal my phone if its out of reach and run off with it.

3) Include a backlit keyboard. I mean, seriously, the dock is basically just a screen and a battery. This shouldn't be hard nor that expensive to implement.

4) Lower the price. Since the laptop dock is simple in terms of its components, the price should be far lower than it is. The price is ridiculous.

5) Expand the line to include a tablet dock. Why buy a separate phone/tablet when you can have both is a relatively small package? The key here is to make the dock attractive and sturdy.

It's a very attractive idea, though the implementation needs some work. I hope that this experiment is further explored, though I have a feeling it will not perform as expected and be dropped.

Here's a scathing review of the LapDock's functionality:
http://www.greatereader.org/?p=17222

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

When Atrix is out , I am very excited with it. However, when I know the truth of Motorola firmware and their update policy. I must say , I am luck that I didn't got Atrix yet.

Because Motorola Android system is so stupid that it can't disable haptic feedback.

May there have a lot of people like haptic feedback , but there also have many people hate it. Due to Motorola's bug , you have no choose. And they don't have plan to fix the problem.

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

wow! I turn haptic off, I don't *hate* it but I don't like it, I find it somewhat irritating and thus pointless, and I imagine it's a power drain too.

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

guys, so finally, is the verdict it is good?

"raw power." was used for N900 and it turned out be not so good for end users

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

Atrix is now released here in Australia but by Telstra on an expensive contract. There is no 4G, only Telstra's "Next-G" which is like 3.6G which is decent.

I don't see the point in having a Tablet-dock, a netbook+smartphone combo seems to suffice. I also thought about having the keyboard backlight and having the phone double as the touchpad. CC, great minds think alike ;)

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"raw power" has nothing to do with it. Nokia dropped the ball, nothing more. Saying that giving "raw power" to end-users is bad for them is to play into the silly lies of fans of DRM and lockdown.

Re: Motorola Atrix 4G
 

Pls any one could help me how to downgrade the os version. Currently i m using atrix and yesterday i upgraded my android to 2.3 gingerbread ( in order to use skype on it) but it seems to me after updating the phone i it has created pain in my arse:mad:. Previously i was able to use google talk on froyo however now even google talk have stopped working. Actually i am used to skype so as a solution a friend told me to update the android version to get it work as his 4g version is capable to run skype. Well this seems that i have completely messed up with the stable version of my phone's os after upgrading which i shouldn't have done. :eek:

Also i dont understand his atrix 4g can run skype but why dont mine. His phone came with built in gingerbread version but it doesn't matters whether the phone comes with built in os version or else the availability of os upgrade for the phone wont be important if every upgrade would have to cause such problems. Even i am facing problems with wireless it keeps scanning without connecting and after upgrading the phone i have lost 6Gb free space.:( I dont understand what is wrong with the phone and the phone surface catches heat soo quickly which i haven't experienced before since i bought the phone.

Moreover many of the apps keeps running in the background those which i hardly use. I am unsure is it 2.3 gingerbread upgrade which have caused this problem or is there something wrong with my phone. Will reseting the phone solves the problem with out having to lose any data (as i have never resseted a phone b4) or is there any process through which will be able to downgrade the version with out any hassle.:confused:
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