Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Except the parts they can't.
THANK YOU!

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Nothing is perfect LOL .
Just gotta live with it or find another way..

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Its what's left out that is usually stupid.

E.g. Lobotomised Bluetooth stack.

Implementing a proper bluetooth stack is too dull for the "super-smart" android developers

That's like removing the thumbs from your hands and saying:

"But I have 8 fingers - thumbs are redundant and what would you use thumbs for anyway?"


E.g. "Cut/copy and paste"

Hello? the 80s called and want their feature back.

It's laughable that Microsoft is actually proud to announce that "cut and paste" will be available in the next Windows Phone update.

That's like designing a steering wheel that only turns left.


We seem to be entering the "Regressive Computer Age".

Features are so last decade - removing functionality is the new kewl aid.

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

But they need to remove features so they have something to add in the next version.

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Name an application, and somebody will name a requested feature for it. If you want to add something in the next version, there is no need to remove something in the previous version.
:)

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

as long as i cant microwave my food with it, its not high end yet..
so give it up..

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

It does if you live in Love Canal!

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Everything can be fixed. But fixing is like a million dollars. Trivial for a behemoth company like Nokia or the Linux community, impossible for a small village like us. And only one is handy. And he's Amish. And hammer's got a hole in it. And he has the runs.

I kid, I kid.

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Erm... NASCAR?

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

cant think of a more appropriate video

http://positiveeconomicnews.com/2010...-one-is-happy/

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

I still think the n900 will be counted as one of the all-time greats. Too bad there hasn't been variants with bigger screens, no keyboard, wimax etc so that people could buy the model that's perfect for them

as to openness, consider that motorola crypto sign bootloaders etc so that when they decide to end support, your device is given the death penalty. I wonder when apple will start doing that or fix it to prevent jailbreaking?

it will be interesting to see what happens in the PS2 community now that the master key leaked making it effectively an open platform. people can now sign their own binaries. rampant piracy yes, but amazing homebrew too!

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Any examples of this ever happening? I mean, not rumors. But actual folks showing evidence of this actually happening.

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Did you mean Sony PS3?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/...tion-hack.html

Is it rumours or actual folks?
Petitions:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/109285
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/311110
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/160363
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...98&topic=13747

News:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2010/07/mot...t-custom-roms/

Hacking:
http://www.droidxforums.com/forum/dr...ootloader.html
Hacked:
http://www.gadgetsdna.com/milestone-...d-broken/3574/

Motorola's response:
http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/1...r-controversy/

EDIT:
Motorola said that eFuse can be used to prevent booting with unapproved software:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/m...sy-says-efuse/

That's the most likely reason why hacking involved booting with approved software and then later replacing it with unapproved software without rebooting.

I see no kill-switch mentioned here. At least, it seems that Motorola cannot silently activate eFuse on one particular device.

But, you obviously know Android much better.

Best wishes
:)

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

I knew about eFuse, however take a look over at XDA-Developers and the activity on the Droid is more than the activity here on the N900.

The question I have though is have they ever pulled the kilswitch? So far, that's been a no.

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Everything can be fixed, except unless it's closed for any number of reasons.

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

I see you're going for infamy now... lol.

Well, you've been elevated to a new tag by somebody here... Dan the Troll.

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Hey, can't be that bad, wikiwide seems to like the show.

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

It's not a killswitch, per se, but a staked chain. Once changes to Android come down the pipe that require a new kernel, buyers are dependent on Motorola releasing a newly signed kernel. Otherwise, they're stuck on the old version and hoping for whatever backports they can get.

This serves Motorola, because they can then use things like Honeycomb or 2.4 or whatever as a selling point for their newest shiny phone, despite the older hardware likely being more than capable of running it.

Yet for some reason, Motorola is the only vendor to enforce this.

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

I prefer to see it as a compliment and that someone feels that they have nothing to contribute. It would seem that when someone can't make an intelligent, cogent argument back in a discussion, the only thing they have left is that ancient, caveman reaction to grunt, gnash their teeth and perhaps call the other person names or label them negatively.

Troll, though, hm? Can I begin charging people for posting comments? :)

Not true, actually. I've been reading up on several other manufacturers doing this, including Samsung--which surprised me. Apparently, there's something along those lines implemented in firmware on the Samsung Galaxy Tab but it's been disabled and unused so far, except for some recent updates in European versions of the Tab's OS.

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

I'd pay for this Gervais-like performance...

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

I expect to see a dance performace, infusing flash dance and mc hammer styles...

oh btw, here's your sergio giorgini jacket :)

Re: Why all high end devices have something stupid in them?
 

Sorry to disappoint you... :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nigRT2KmCE