Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

I know what you mean its deeply disappointing.

As a european I was hoping Nokia would offer credible competition to US companies.

Oh well I guess an android phone will be my next device (if it can run a chroot version of linux and proper bluetooth support - keyboards & mice)

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Succeed in what? dominating the world with closed OS's and devices you have spent 600 euros or dollars or more to buy that you cannot have control over like the ****ing i-crap?

I am simply devastated today, I really cannot believe Nokia did that to themselves and us.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Should that not be Goodbye Meego HELLO Nokia ?.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Nokia made a big mistake hiring M$ exec. Right now Elop signed death warrant for Nokia. Such a waste...

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So you're saying that if Nokia ships many WP 7 phones, the market share will be big enough for developers to take it seriously and develop lots of apps.

But, this wouldn't apply to Meego (if Nokia had instead decided to select Meego as the 'primary smartphone platform')?

The Nokia Qt SDK is available for multiple platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux), whereas the SDK for WP7 is only available for Windows, so iPhone developers (who will develop on Mac OS) will need another platform to develop for Nokia?

Existing Qt apps for desktops (which would need minimal porting work to Meego) are of no value.

Existing Qt apps for Symbian were a total waste of developer investment?

Nokia promised "a Meego device", so we shouldn't assume it is a handset yet.

I think I'll be looking at Web OS, especially since they appear to be shipping Qt, otherwise I think I will go with Android. Or, maybe I'll buy another N900.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

That's for sure. Im getting myself a new N900 incase my old one dies on me. I can't see my life working without this phone. I love it to damn much <3

--Futtawuh

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Your definition of fully functional could be very different from the definition of a lot of people here, is like calling light the moonlight when we all have been seen the sunlight already. You think would be anything similar in WP7 of what happened i.e. around kernel power or fcam, to put 2 easy examples?

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Well buchanmilne the problem is we are obviously stuck with what Nokia decide to do and as it now has a ex Bill Gates wiz kid at its helm you can only expect by reading in between the lines as to the area he will take Nokia.

It is of no use quoting anything right now but my bet is we will see a new generation OS from the Windows stable that will have huge development going for it and as Nokia are in trouble i would think from a bussiness strategic point of view the teaming of 2 of the worlds giants can only mean one thing... a Windows OS of the future and personally i am all with it IF it gets the development going for a much improved Windows Mobile platform, just look at the interest on this very thread... should that not tell us something?.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

I guess it depends if you're here as a Nokia fanboy or as a Meego/Maemo/Linux fanboy. You're clearly in the former, most people here are the latter. Why would anybody hear give a s**t what happens to Nokia and WP7? They've given their time and effort trying to help the platform and have been stabbed in the back IMHO.

If you want to blow smoke up Nokia and the WP7 tie up this perhaps is not the best place to do it.

(BTW I'm a Windows on the desktop man myself and like MS - but have less than no interest in WP7)

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

I guess I will go back to owning two devices.

My n900 is a great little linux computer. I will probably go back to a "proper" mobile phone or low-end android device.

I hope the development of stuff like getting linux distros like ubuntu running on the n900, easy debian and stuff like that continues.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

The sad thing is, if there's really going to be that one MeeGo device announced in 2011, I am probably going to consider buying it. Knowing in advance it will have no company support, no future, no upgrade path.

It'll be a community phone, Nokias step child, but it might be the only phone on the peak hour of a most powerful platform.

The N900 is unique, like the Openmoko was. If there ever is going to be a MeeGo product, that might be yet another dying star in that night sky.

And who knows, a generation after that, Nokia might make desktop Windows 8 phones, as opposed to Zune phones.

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The problem with the Maemo OS was simply the lack of team effort and more like a hobbyist get together, certainly nothing that would gain success, so the idea as such of a perfect OS ... can that really exsist? My bet is it will certainly gain momentum IF it gets going with the Gates stable behind it !!.

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Actually abill_uk has a point. If this is a genuine partnership between Nokia and Microsoft then some intersting things might develop from it.

Even if the partnership is successful I still won't buy a Windows Phone device or even a Nokia device (regardless of os). I've been spoiled by the relatively open nature of the N900.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

I am with you as i am also a windows man and as for Nokia all i can tell you is NO i am not a Nokia fanboy far from it but i AM an N900 owner and as it has the potential of just about anything OS wise i look to the future that will be viable unlike the Maemo and Meego was supposed to be, remember Windows has been with us for a long time now so i would obviously go with a future that can exsist , not one that is brought out and ditched for whatever reasons.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Thats the moment where all developers of meego and maemo should center their aktivitys to develop nitdroid!!! Give nokia a kick in their a**

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I wish all penguins unite and create an open nokio ;)

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HP should thank NOKIA for this step.
Palm is my next point of interest.
SInce I had the chance to try some Palm apps on n900, I think HP means it seriously and want to cooperate with big commercial app. developers. Is WebOS at least so open OS like maemo? AFAIK it is using the regular linux and Xserver - so development of gtk/qt apps should be possible.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Indeed these are very good news for HP.

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I have to agree, I'm seriously looking at HP/Palm now. Nokia is definitly dead in my eyes. I won't be getting another Nokia anymore. I hope my N900 will last for a while, and If it's time to get something new it will be something with WebOS, if no better competitor appears out of nowhere (which is unlikely)

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

The only reason Nokia is partnering with Microsoft is because of Elop, who is a Microsoft guy.

Nobody else in their right mind would join with Microsoft on smartphones now, because Windows on smartphone usage is dropping like a stone over a black hole. As far as I can tell people can't leave it fast enough - all those former HTC/Windows users are now HTC/Android users, or want to be.

Bad move by Nokia. Elop is guilty of this, but what could you expect when you hired him, Nokia? Stockholders will suffer.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

This is really bad, I'm sure meego would have been great with more support, hell even the N900 was great, only a bit unfinished.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

What do you mean the N900 WAS great????? the N900 IS great !.

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Whatever, just feeling sad right now, hope nokia employees will rise up and give elop the treatment he deserves.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Goodbye from me to nokia. I had such high hopes, and I know meego is still coming, but with windows as their main OS (and lets be serious, it will be their main OS), I will be moving to android, as meego has much less of a chance of ever picking up.

I will miss you nokia.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Yep, android or webOS, here I come!

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I'm thinking about HP/WebOS as well. Only thing holding me back is that, I don't wanna again invest again into platform that might die soon. I'll keep watching for a while how it goes with new HP products, and buy one if they start selling well.

Android is the Plan B.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

I don't think "smart phones" are even worth $60 a month or whatever. I think I'll just pass next time around and go with a cheap phone and a cool tablet.

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It's probably for the better that most Maemo early adopters have long since left this forum. Otherwise it'd be a lot more busy and "interesting" here...

I've had enough of popcorn to put me off it for a long time.

It's friday so I'll probably switch to wine later. It's Nokia's wake for me after all, after a long and for the last few years rather painful association.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

This is the beginning of end of Nokia as a double digit marketshare producer with a brand name.

Now they'll descend into the "noname" category of the 5-10% producers.

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Elop is a murderer.

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I keep thinking of a brief interchange in "The Wire".
One character: "The writing's on the wall."
Other: "FK the wall."

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

By Nokia! I have been suporting Nokia for many years. I can only say that I will not buy never more a Nokia phone. Before that Microsoft, google.

Nokis is dead.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

It seems Symbian is to be phased out, Meego will remain as 'experimental platform for future platforms' (source: All About Symbian livestream)

I know it is wishful thinking, but I could well imagine that WP will not do as well as they hope, in which case Meego could be pushed to the front again.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

bye bye Nokia! Palm (HP, webOs), I'm coming back !

P.S. if my N900 will die ;)

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Some amazing comments coming out here and hardly a word of inspiration for the future of Nokia.

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future? that's optimistic!

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I can absolutely guarentee that Nokia will bounce back in one form or another but i am absolutely stunned at the hate being thrown at Nokia now..... oooer talk about put another hole in a sinking ship !.

It certainly is the fault of Nokia treating us N900 owners the way they have and all the empty promises but i still say they will bounce back into glory and you lot will eat your words haha.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

Nokia will turn into a windows phone 7 brand, and they will not die. They may even do reasonably well, as a windows phone 7 maker, but they will NEVER do as well as they could have done on their own.

Mind you, they could have also completely failed with meego and pretty much died, so this will make sure they survive, but they will never be the "big boy" on the market again.

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

It's like you've been putting in multiple shifts putting out fires (here) on Nokia's "burning platform", with the vast majority of even the most recent (and least hurt) Maemo adopters disgusted by MS-Elop's handiwork.

As someone who incessantly extols the pleasures of "partnering" with MS (yeah, studying contemporary history is overrated... :rolleyes:)

Could you kindly elaborate on your absolute guarantee that Nokia will bounce back!!?? Like, in what kind of disguise might that be??

Because while I can certainly see Nokia ending up with a very different form after MS-Elop's play has played itself out, I can't even at my most charitable see it as "bouncing back"!

Re: Goodbye Meego, goodbye Nokia
 

If Nokia N9 gets released with WP7 can we not install meamo on it? I'd rather stick with an open platform!