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richwhite 2011-02-11 21:31

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
There is literally nothing on the market i would even entertain buying right now. I'm going to keep an eye on WP7 developments and if by the time i want to buy a new phone it becomes attractive, i'll buy it. But i'll also keep an eye on MeeGo, if Nokia release one device i'll buy it, just like i bought the only Maemo 5 device. I'm sure MeeGo will have a strong community like this one, and that's enough for me if the OS works properly. The only other option is Android, and i don't trust Google or like how Android works. I'd get used to it if i really had to though. Depending how the N8 updates go, i'd consider that down the line too. I *was* intending on buying the MeeGo device Elop announced today, but now that there won't be one i'm just going to hang onto the N900 until i need to move on or something really catches my eye.

eikido 2011-02-11 21:35

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Multitasking is a must!

Laughing Man 2011-02-11 21:37

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
WP7 hasn't excited me so far. When I first saw their commercials I rolled my eyes but I thought their integration with XBOX LIVE was cool. But then I saw that it wasn't actual integration (e.g. gamers on 360 can play with you on your phone) and I lost interest in it. So far the games on there don't really interest me compared to the 3DS, or Sony's NGP.

maxximuscool 2011-02-11 21:41

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I would buy the Windows Nokia phone only if it has dualboot with MeeGo. Two OS in one so atleast I got MeeGo to use while the stupid WIn7 to grow some functionalities like multitasks, tethering etc..

This is pretty dumb things to do for nokia for going with just Win7. Seriously they could just release two OS MeeGo and WinMo and fine tune MeeGo until it is solid then abandon MS crappy functionless Win7

maxximuscool 2011-02-11 21:42

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does anyone know if Win7 supports Multi cores processors?

RFS-81 2011-02-11 21:45

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Been succesfully avoiding all MS software products for the last 8 years. This is *hardly* a reson to change that..

louiegoat 2011-02-11 21:48

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
My last Windows phone was a Cingular branded model 3125 from HTC (The Q-tek) clamshell type smartphone. Everytime you used any application on it you would have to use the task manager to close the app or they would all reside in the memory slowing everything down to a crawl. Every screen was accessed using either the "next" or "back" key and it seemed that you were always pressing them just to do anything on the phone. It really was a pain in the arse. By contrary the I love my N900 and my E71.

windows7 2011-02-11 21:50

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Shares in HP must be on the rise :)

Look i already have windows 95 & 98 on maemo but it runs too slow, nokia non technical bosses, really dont realize what they getting into.

and above all, what cool mobile apps can a MS OS offer?
It will be a worst move then maemo/meego, at various levels, hardware power, lack of decent mobile apps & more waiting in hope for apps to appear = total failure!

if all the above can be overcome then it could be a sucess, similar to netbooks.

louiegoat 2011-02-11 22:05

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
I will use my Kempler & Strauss GSM Watchphone before I buy a Nokia / Microsoft collaborative smartphone !

mohannad 2011-02-11 22:07

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Hell No!!!

eti1 2011-02-11 22:09

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
When my n900 will die, I hope I will find an upgraded equivalent (n9?).
I'll definitely not buy WP7. Android isn't bad, but debian is way better, and I'm not ready to let Google datamine my phone.

Rugoz 2011-02-11 22:18

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
I would buy a WP7 device with the camera module of the N8. Assuming there is no WebOS/Android alternative out there.

But I have never used it extensively..

PowerUser 2011-02-11 22:21

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
I would NEVER buy anything from MS. Actually, after such Nokia f**kup I have each and every reason to hate MS more than ever. What a bunch of tricky bastards. Why the hell Nokia allowed to get itself tricked? I bet Nokia will disappear from scene soon, at least as decent and competitive mobile phones vendor I knew and loved. I have a very little idea why the hell I would need third rate, proprietary, restricted OS which lacks any software and which has already failed for Samsung, HTC and LG all together. Why the hell I should see how Nokia will fail as well? Are they so dumb that they want to completely destroy their company? Ouch. I would miss you, Nokia! Farewell and rest in peace. You were a great company once but everything that haves begin would have also it's end, unfortunately. So, this seems to be Nokia's end at the moment. It's sad.

maxximuscool 2011-02-11 22:21

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These is why Nokia Win7 is not going to get my money!

[edit] Features removed from Windows Mobile

Windows Phone 7 lacks some features that were found in earlier versions of Windows Mobile. Among the features that have been confirmed to arrive in the near-future include cut, copy, and paste,[65] full multitasking for 3rd party apps,[66] and Adobe Flash.[67] Windows Phone 7 supports upgradable storage via an SD Card; however SD card memory is merged with the phone's internal storage, and changing the SD card causes the phone to reset to factory settings.[68][69] Windows Phone 7 does not support connecting to Wi-Fi (wireless) access points which are hidden[70] or have a static IP address,[71] tethering to a computer[72] (although it can be done via a hack on the Samsung Focus[73]), videocalling,[74] VoIP calling,[75] USB mass-storage,[76] universal email inbox,[76] universal search,[76] a system-wide file manager,[74] Bluetooth file transfers,[74] USSD messages,[77] or custom ringtones.[78]

Windows Phone 7 devices only support syncing with Exchange ActiveSync[79] over the network. There is no support for syncing with Exchange ActiveSync using a cable or cradle.

In the enterprise, Windows Phone 7 does not support Office documents with security permissions,[80] IPsec security,[81] on-device encryption,[82] strong passwords,[71] or internet sockets.[75] While the older Windows Mobile phones supported the full range of Microsoft Exchange Server policies, Windows Phone 7 only supports a small subset of Exchange features.[83] The Calendar app no longer has a 'Weekly' view.[71] The list of past phone calls is now a single list, and cannot be separated into inbound, outbound or missed calls.[71]

RFS-81 2011-02-11 22:24

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Too bad I'm not any more interested in Android than I am in WP7. So I just finished ordering an E7 (hopefully there's still enough life in Nokia to deliver it?). With that and my trusty N900 I should be fine for a while..

maxximuscool 2011-02-11 22:26

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Minimum Windows Phone 7 device requirements
Capacitive, 4-point multi-touch screen with WVGA (800x480) resolution
1 GHz ARM v7 "Cortex/Scorpion" or better processor
DirectX9 rendering-capable GPU
256 MB of RAM with at least 8 GB of Flash memory
Accelerometer with compass, ambient light sensor, proximity sensor and Assisted GPS
5-megapixel camera with an LED flash
FM radio tuner
6 dedicated hardware buttons - back, Start, search, camera, power/sleep and Volume Up and Down.

eikido 2011-02-11 22:30

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 943300)
These is why Nokia Win7 is not going to get my money!

[edit] Features removed from Windows Mobile

Windows Phone 7 lacks some features that were found in earlier versions of Windows Mobile. Among the features that have been confirmed to arrive in the near-future include cut, copy, and paste,[65] full multitasking for 3rd party apps,[66] and Adobe Flash.[67] Windows Phone 7 supports upgradable storage via an SD Card; however SD card memory is merged with the phone's internal storage, and changing the SD card causes the phone to reset to factory settings.[68][69] Windows Phone 7 does not support connecting to Wi-Fi (wireless) access points which are hidden[70] or have a static IP address,[71] tethering to a computer[72] (although it can be done via a hack on the Samsung Focus[73]), videocalling,[74] VoIP calling,[75] USB mass-storage,[76] universal email inbox,[76] universal search,[76] a system-wide file manager,[74] Bluetooth file transfers,[74] USSD messages,[77] or custom ringtones.[78]

Windows Phone 7 devices only support syncing with Exchange ActiveSync[79] over the network. There is no support for syncing with Exchange ActiveSync using a cable or cradle.

In the enterprise, Windows Phone 7 does not support Office documents with security permissions,[80] IPsec security,[81] on-device encryption,[82] strong passwords,[71] or internet sockets.[75] While the older Windows Mobile phones supported the full range of Microsoft Exchange Server policies, Windows Phone 7 only supports a small subset of Exchange features.[83] The Calendar app no longer has a 'Weekly' view.[71] The list of past phone calls is now a single list, and cannot be separated into inbound, outbound or missed calls.[71]

The Windows Phone 7 system is very young and by the time Nokia has implemented it and started selling it, it will most likely have some of those features ready.

shallimus 2011-02-11 22:35

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eikido (Post 943313)
The Windows Phone 7 system is very young and by the time Nokia has implemented it and started selling it, it will most likely have some of those features ready.

So how is it any different from MeeGo?

PowerUser 2011-02-11 22:39

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Quote:

it will most likely have some of those features ready.
The "only" problem is that other competitors already have them and by looking on system requirements I can imagine WP7 devices to be expensive as a hell, which warrants quite limited sales. And since it lacks "iconic experience" of iPhone and cooperation of Android, it's doubtful this can succeed. At least, HTC, Samsung and LG have failed so far. Nokia hadn't performed great recently as well, so it's strange to expect epic win. F00k you, Elop. F00k you, Nokia. It looks like I would not buy your devices anymore. There was already a bunch of useless WP7 stuff. Why the hell I would need to see several more units of this crap?

ShadowLFC 2011-02-11 22:40

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Just got sent this link. I'm not interested but I have to admit they're pretty good looking ...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/e...cept-revealed/

PowerUser 2011-02-11 22:49

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowLFC (Post 943328)
Just got sent this link. I'm not interested but I have to admit they're pretty good looking ...

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/e...cept-revealed/

I can remember that even HTC was not able to develop custom UI regardless of the fact they always using custom UI on other platforms, even WM6.x ones. MS does not supports this in WP7 and you can't do this. So it looks like Nokia could be just as "exclusive" as any other WP7 phone. And technically they're just as any other device. What makes 'em exclusive? Just MS? MS is such a boring company, it can't make exclusive things, they only can make something that you would hate but would be forced to use "due to corporate policy" or other silly stuff :D.

richwhite 2011-02-11 23:01

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerUser (Post 943343)
I can remember that even HTC was not able to develop custom UI regardless of the fact they always using custom UI on other platforms, even WM6.x ones. MS does not supports this in WP7 and you can't do this. So it looks like Nokia could be just as "exclusive" as any other WP7 phone. And technically they're just as any other device. What makes 'em exclusive? Just MS? MS is such a boring company, it can't make exclusive things, they only can make something that you would hate but would be forced to use "due to corporate policy" or other silly stuff :D.

MS have told Nokia they can customise the UI and design, but Elop said nokia probably won't.
No, i can't work it out either...

eikido 2011-02-11 23:02

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Any release date on the Nok/win 7 phones?

u2maemo 2011-02-11 23:12

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Never buy a Nokia WP7 phone.

Elop go home

davbost 2011-02-11 23:57

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Sure, why not? That would depend on the hardward, take a hundred bucks off the price for the crap OS, then I would find some way to put Linux on it.

Gucky66 2011-02-12 01:03

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
I don't think so... I like some of the things the n900 can do like no other.

Probebly end up with a very simple phone and using a tablet for everything else.

want more to read... http://blog.dawid.lorenz.co/2011/02/...n-sad-but.html

Btw I am one of those 2 year guys... ask me again oktober 2012 :)

I must say the n900 does more things then I hoped fore.
Some things it does not.

maybe a 'n9' or a n900 :) as the next replacement ... ... ...

PowerUser 2011-02-12 01:21

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Quote:

then I would find some way to put Linux on it.
So, you can defeat Ti's "secure" boot feature for example? oO ("secure" means that it securely prevents you from taking control over your device, hehe :eek:). Hint: take a look on xbox360. Then try to boot Linux on it. And at least Ti OMAP can implement similar feature (Nokia uses signing a lot on Symbian devices and you will have some trouble with signatures for sure).

TiagoTiago 2011-02-12 01:39

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
The only reason i can think of for me buying a phone running a MS OS would be to scavenge for parts.

shockgiga 2011-02-12 01:47

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
i'm open minded enough. i'd try one. as long as its constructed with aluminum parts too, that would be a plus. lol

i just dont like the windows logo button at the bottom so i may apply dark black heavy car tint on that area.

plus i'd buy anything TOM ARNOLD is trying to sell. LOLOLOL

RobbieThe1st 2011-02-12 01:52

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
After using a Rockboxed iriver H320, an Archos 605 Wifi(Horrible mistake, IMHO), a Nokia N770 and now a Nokia N900, I am -never- going back to anything without a Linux terminal and root privlidges. Oh, and a locked-down bootloader is also a no-no.

WP7's just about the opposite of what I want, so... No way.

paulkoan 2011-02-12 07:31

Setting meego free
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davbost (Post 943415)
Sure, why not? That would depend on the hardward, take a hundred bucks off the price for the crap OS, then I would find some way to put Linux on it.

And I think this sentiment is what might turn meego into the OS we all want. A proper phone OS, open and linux based. Creating independence of the OS from the specific interests of individual hardware vendors is key to that. I see the reliance on Nokia to date as being a hindrance rather than a benefit - other than funding and technical details surrounding their specific hardware environment.

It is the specificity that is the issue. Imagine how successful server and desktop linux would be if it only worked on a single hardware platform? And I am not talking a specific processor architecture, I am talking about its success if it only ran on a single processor type, a single motherboard chipset, a single graphics chipset etc.

Obviously this is more a description of maemo rather than meego - the meego project was about alleviating this tight coupling between hardware and OS.

But two hardware vendors rather than one and both aiming toward their respective reference platform.

We have to get through this part of meego developement and a reference platform is important, but the goal should surely be meego developed in such away that it works with a wide range of hardware, and hardware vendors see it as a benefit, and so producing kernel and graphics drivers so that they can take advantage of meego.

Nokia and WP7 reduces the importance of Nokia to meego - any new hardware they produce will be aiming at a WP7 solution - so Nokia pushing their hardware suppliers to produce open drivers will no longer be important to them.

But there are plently of other hardware manufacturers out there some with a more mature interest in open source. Identifying one of these existing phones, one with a good open source of drivers, would be identifying a far better reference platform for meego.

Meego running on HTC would be awesome, on something that already runs android. Dual boot.

That is a phone I would buy. And that might be incentive enough for vendors to consider meego as a secondary target to android when buying components.

pocale 2011-02-12 09:04

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
I'd rather buy another N900 than a latest gadgets win-dose-phone

tuxsavvy 2011-02-12 09:21

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
Hah! buy windows phone and be happy to show off the stupid windows icon as a button? It speaks loudly than Apple's Iphone which has a logo of Apple on the backside of its device and doesn't even function as a button.

Viqsi 2011-02-12 20:18

Re: Poll: Would you buy a phone running WP7?
 
The approximate odds of my ever buying any Microsoft mobile were zero when they were Palm-sized PCs, they remained zero when the iPaq came out and took over the world, they remained zero when they started calling it Windows Mobile, and they will continue to remain zero through Windows Phone 7.

Never. Absolutely never. Not in a thousand years.

I might consider buying from Nokia - say, if they're able to use WP7 to finance Meego handset research and put out more "developer" devices like the N900. But I will never buy WP7. Or WP8. Or any other successor when they decide to rename it again to try to get away from its hackneyed, poor-quality slow garbage past.


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