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Holy hell, if the people on Engadget are supporting it, quite simply if this doesn't get promoted and supported, Elop is on another planet

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Its Nokia. Don't presume anything or you're going to get f***ed in the a**.

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It doesn't matter. They will be criticized for being behind if it uses a 2 year old single core processor. Personally, I'd like a spec bump beyond a basic clock increase.

You can only get so much out of optimization, after which you must improve the hardware.

Doubtful. But MeeGo inherently will be from the get-go.

Yes, compete with crap. That's exactly what Nokia wants to do.

Or you could be right, and Nokia could just dump a sad, underpowered device out there and walk away to promise a brighter future for Windows Phone.

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Seeing this and all the hype about MeeGo/Maemo 6 over on that engadget page really makes me sad all over again that Nokia went WP7. This could have so, so much hype and word of mouth promotion. And even then, i have no problem with them making WP7, but i would like clarification on the situation, because Elop hasn't said whether or not they'll make exclusively WP7, or just replace Symbian with it and also have MeeGo when it's ready. It's all speculated so far.

And of course the other question is that of apps - will the Maemo 5 apps run on it, will the Intel apps run on it, and will big names develop for it?

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Well this spec discussion has been discussed so many times so why not repeat my self like everybody else.

As this will very likely be the last and first MeeGo device from Nokia why not have some real umph inside. If it will have HDMI out(it better have) there's also things like pushing 1080 out of that port that example OMAP36xx simply can't do.

Also while i totally agree that the Android CPU madness isn't keeping up with the software at all at the moment and unfortunately Apple will come behind Android with iphone 5 and again actually got soft that's ready for it. Part of Nokia's receant downfall is this "it's enough" thing. So far it unfortunately just hasn't been enough.

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The opensource community who prefer the most open platform will develop for it. Even if some apps will is closed Maemo/Meego is more open than Android.

Apps writted in Qt(Quick) in Maemo will work from begining. apps written in old Gtk+ API will have problems but it should be that hard for the community to add those libs in extras-devel.

Both OS:es is using X11 and most of the Linux libs are the same as in Meego/Maemo.

I dont see any problems with community not supporting it. Problem is more like: when the hell Nokia will release it? or IF they even will release it?

I mean the FCC seems true but it could be some ****ing WP7 prototype too.

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i really don't understand all the scepticism about whether it will get released.

Nokia's own released documents indicate an ongoing investment into Meego/QT in the region of $200m/year.

Meego hasn't gone, it has just failed to become Nokia's major ecosystem with which it intends to compete with IOS and android.

http://jedibeeftrix.wordpress.com/20...-qt-and-meego/

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And they've already announced that they'll be getting out of it completely within the next year and a half. Microsoft doesn't want Nokia to have any outs like MeeGo.

This will be released, and they'll support it until it gets EOL'd and walk away.

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So in other words, it'll be a community effort for apps again?

They'll release it, and as has been said, i see little reason for WP7 requiring such hardware. Nokia has stated it will release a MeeGo device, this is no doubt it. Besides, i'm pretty sure that a WP7 device by Nokia will be called a 'W8' or something

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They'd be fools for doing it. Just about everyone who has made a Windows phone has eventually moved on to another OS. Betting everything on an OS that you don't own is potential disaster.

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But will they continue to support this one or just release it because they have to?

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Sorry, i meant the comments, not the bloggers

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I must say I am very very hopeful after looking at the FCC reports. I feared the keyboardless Lankku was the one nokia "MeeGo" device to be released.

Anyway, here's what I gather are the commonly believed facts:

- To everyone's surprise It's a revision of the N9 we were all drooling over a year ago. (source: FCC report combined with year old highly detailed leaked photos)
- It will run Maemo6 aka Harmattan and not MeeGo (or WP7) (source: maemo community mailing lists)
- It will be announced very soon, possibly 17th of may or during MeeGo conf in San Francisco (source: Zehjotkah's tweets)

I'm very excited. :-)

EDIT: In regards to Nok not going forward with MeeGo in a large scale: It doesn't bother me at all, as long as they keep making these niche, high quality linux devices and release every 2 years or so like they have been doing since 2005. I don't want stuff made for masses, I want stuff made for me. Like the N900. :)

EDIT2: The name of the device is yet to be determined. The Rich Green coined "N950" was, as I understood it, done to illustrate how the device is a natural successor to the N900. He even gestured towards airquotes. Anyway I'm guessing N9, since it was written on the prototype from last year.

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i haven't read anything that isn't rank speculation which contradicts any of what what nokia said on feb 11th.

what do you know?

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Why should this matter? Nokia is not competing on Meego devices.

This device is not going to be promoted at all.

The only question is if it is interesting on its own.

Personally, if it is at least as open as the N900 and if it gets cheap enough it could be an interesting replacement if my N900 dies.

But hopefully there will be alternatives...

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I really hope the N950 will still run meego. I fear they put WP7 on it and recycled the old N9 design for meego...

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Nokia support is useless... QT support is more important.
With continued QT support, I see no problem for CSSU on Harmattan, maybe even a merged effort with Meego DE on RM680.

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given that their own documents indicate a continued invested to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars a year i am not too worried.

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I'm excited. And if this does actually get released this year but doesn't stand up to my hopes and dreams (and of everyone here), I'll happily return it and keep using my N900. But I AM excited...! :)

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finally, someone who makes sense! yes!!!! i want something made for me. not made for the masses. who cares about the latter? i buy a phone because it works for ME!!! :)

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My hardware prediction:

Processor: Ti 36xx 1Ghz + PowerVGR540
RAM: 512MB
Camera: 5MP-Rear-LED flash (720p 25fps) + 0.6Mp-Font
Screen: Capacitive touch 4" 800x400
Internal: 16GB or 32GB
OS: Harmattan MeeGo transition
Supported media: 720p
WLAN: b/g/N
Bluetooth: 2.1
Extention: MicroSD


Here is the link: http://www.engadget.com/photos/nokia...china/#3277330

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If you check this photo and this one, you will notice that keyboard cover (white part) is not the same shape.

EDIT: It is the same, just turned around (back and front) :rolleyes:

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What not the same shape about it? Looks the same to me.

Here I made a bit of change to the picture and now see how is it not the same.

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Actually in the second photo it's same keyboard cover but turned upside down :D:D:D

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Forgot the link. I alter the top right a little
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...02600x584.jpg/

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9...502600x584.jpg

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agreed, but some app support would be nice i must admit

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This device will have worst support than Nokia N900. Nokia will drop its balls 6months after the release date. Will only be used by geeks, linux guru and fanboys. Though, the OS will be opened, but not everything else like applications will be partially just like N900. Hardware wise this device will always be closed and don't even dream of Flash10 or downloadable applications

Those are my predictions

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I really just need turn by turn voice navigation and pentaband on m N900.

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Perfect !

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money waiting.

dear nokia/warehouse/shipper employee,

put a few on ebay early for ridiculous price, I will buy one.

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uhhh?? yey??? well im gonna get this one instead of any android device.....(almost purchased one).

i hope...well i wont hold my breath that this would be at least like an N900 with upgraded hardware.....or different :)

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I would only buy it if Nokia allowing the equal value trade-in of my N900.
Got my N900 for $479USD and If they want me to buy this then I'd swap. Not because I don't like N900 but I want something abit up to date.

Oh what the heck, N9 will be like a cheapy android :) I doubt it will worth more than $500USD at launch. Since all other Android (LG and SONY) dual cores are about that price. With all the rubbish hardware blast from the past, it will probably hard to take a flight.

Edit: My heart still set with SGSII

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It will be Sisyphus all over again!

I just love it!

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Pentaband? This is hexaband

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Didn't intel say as soon as Nokia said they are dropping meego the other manufacturers changed their minds about not making meego phones and started showing interest?
I think they didn't want to get involved with meego because of fear Nokia would have too much control over the OS.
If that's true then releasing this device and then dropping meego and standing back and watching where the other manufacturers are going to take meego and coming back into the game 2 years later if they have to drop microsoft or even start making dual boot phones would seem like a "keep your options open" strategy.

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I'm just afraid that it'll come with that idiotic EDoF camera.

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Anything about an IR port?

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THis is incorrect. Quim has said that although the code is not entirely Meego it is also no where near Maemo. In reality it is more meego then maemo5. People need to just accept that.

Also,. Nokia plans to make it compatible with the official Meego builds so that it will get updates, etc..

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I think the pentband reference is to umts.
If the n900 had 850/2100, I wouldn't be looking for a new device for another 5 years

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According to the Engadget post, this is hexaband while others haven't even done pentaband yet.