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Regardless of context, these words are BS in the current mobile industry.

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Can't we just enjoy this release, please? `:) I for one am very pleased to see MeeGo N900 DE come along at any rate it comes along.

This isn't anything we're paying for nor is it something that Nokia's future success will be riding on. What's happening here is a bunch of volunteers are making a platform for devs to play on and power users to entertain themselves. That's it!

So download the image, burn it on a microSD and just have fun with it! Leave the analysis of the significance of this release for other discussions.

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Dual boot anyone ? I've found this link but it's not helping much..

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I could not find info on how to boot meego with v47, so I rolled back to v46, installed uboot for v46, and it worked well.

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Please explain further the why 'no Sony' ?

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The UI looks fantastic. Most functionality are working but still slow and buggy as hell. Not good to use for everyday OS. May be flashing it onto the device might speed it up but running from class 6 card is not good.

A good start and a big improvement on the UI from the previous version. Still lots of room for improvement. Sometimes virtual keyboard slide in and out none stopped, and random freeze when opening apps is not pleasant. :)

Oh did I mention that the scrolling is super duper fluid. It feels like iOS scrolling smooth just slightly better :)

Stay away if you're not a risk taker.

As for dualboot goes, please read wiki or youtube. Install into microSD card and off you go.

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Personally, I don't think Nokia will still be making phones in three years. Take my words in that context. :D

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Probably, because they are Evil. :D

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I hope not, but it's definitely possible.

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Is this the final version?

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not sure where to provide feedback for this. Just loaded this up. Performance has definitely improved, I've tried the odd release here or there, and this one has definitely been the fastest. still a heck of a lot of work to do with speed though.

In attempting to send a text message, when entering my phone number in by hardware keyboard long press (aka press and hold q to get 1), by the time i get to the final digit, if i click send it says

"error. phone number is not valid: 04**********y (where the asterisks are the rest of my number). Take note of the 'y'. Even though it shows as 6 on the screen before pressing send, it changes it to 'y'. Pressing and holding the blue arrow, then pressing 6, also gives a 6, but it is able to send.

Nice improvements on the UI. Was able to create a new contact... though perhaps itd be more logical to have a "save contact" at the bottom of the new contact screen, rather than having to scroll back up, press the down arrow, and then click save contact.

did not receive a notification sound for an incoming text message, but did receive the green bar at the top right.

first time the camera app opened, there was a horrible purple tinge to the photos. Second time it was ok. Each time as soon as the shutter was pressed, the camera app closed. was not able to see the taken photos in the photos app.

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Not really, it's just a version to be shown off at the conference. There will be another release by end of June, although I'm not sure even that can be called "final". See http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900#Target_schedules

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How you rolled back to v46?

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I used the command from this post.
Worked for me

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and this is only one way to install u-boot for power kernel?

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What kind of effort have you made to make this happen? What have you contributed to make anything you say worth a damn?

It is easy to sit by the sidelines and throw feces. It is harder to actually get into the middle of it and try to improve things. Certainly, there is a team working on making improvements to what is open sourced on Maemo 5, and other rewriting some parts which are not.

While I'm disappointed in the progress of MeeGo and I'm concerned that it will not end up making an impact on anything, I'm not going to be rude about my opinion of this. I still hope for the best, but my expectations are rather low.

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I dont get it. Why do they say its 1.2 when the dl page say 1.1?

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It's based on 1.1.99 which according to http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engine...ase_Versioning is the Release Candidate version of 1.2, in other words, as close as possible to 1.2 just before release.

I guess because the final 1.2 release has only just happened, they haven't yet had time to re-base the DE release to use 1.2 version numbers, but still, this is pretty much based on the same code as in the core MeeGo 1.2 release.

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There is now a developer preview of Opera Mobile for n900 meego

It is actually really usable

http://labs.opera.com/news/2011/05/24/

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It seems that my comment was ignored so...

Is there a method for install meego in the eMMC with maemo dual boot??

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Wow! That was unexpected!

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Didn't know we have a "vanilla" version in the making... :D

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No U-Boot and Power Kernel v47 can coexist

http://forums.internettablettalk.com...2&postcount=21

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If by device you mean emmc, then apparently not. A couple of filesystem tests showed the emmc performance to be inferior to a Class 6 card :(. Maybe a NAND flash will provide better results, but they (understandably) don't support that method at all right now.

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Obviously there is a solution but unfortunately until now noone have published a detailed guide.

It is still possible but for now you must find out yourself how to make it

Of course you must rearrange your eMMC partition table to make a partition for MeeGo.
It is not possible to load it on /home as Nitdroid because MeeGo is too big for that partition

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I don't know how to remake meego DE image but I can tell you that MeeGo 1.2 DE uses only 1.3GB of disk space so it is possible to make 1.5 or 2.0GB image version

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I made an attempt to do this a while back and gave up on it and just did the standard emmc install. I think the way MeeGo seems to boot is to look for a FAT partition #3 to boot from with the rootfs at partition 1 and swap at 2.

So to dual boot you would need to repartition the emmc (I used the BackuMenu method with GParted) either pushing the MyDocs and /home partition further back and editing your maemo configuration to match, or put the MeeGo partitions at #5 and #6 (sharing the swap partition shouldn't be an issue) and then editing the MeeGo configuration to boot from there.

I'm not sure how to do that or if it is possible - I managed to get as far as writing the rootfs to partition #5 and before I managed to extract the boot partition I got impatient and just went with the emmc install method.

When I get a chance I'll give it another go. Oh btw this link here might help you configure bootmenu (make sure you point the menu to the FAT partition - I didn't realise this until after I gave up with it. I also had BackupMenu installed and needed to rename the /etc/bootmenu.d/backupmenu.item file before I could get my menu item to show.

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If you think Intel is the only contribute for Meego your really is out of line.

Meego is NOT only Intel! It maybe true that Nokia doesn't invest what was expected before february but you are wrong if you think Intel is behind N900DE they probadly unintrested in that codebase.

Meego is a community project with some of free contributers and also alot of companies involved not only Intel.

And the team behind N900 is "Hobbyists", engineers inside Nokia and some Hardware adoption engineers outside Nokia! None of them is working on Intel AFAIK!

But one is correct N900 is not hipriority for the "payed engineers" for obviours reasons.

We are all free to contribute dont expect Intel or even other companys to do it. The device is discontinued but its upto the community too decide if we want Meego progress on N900!

Oh I forgot some of the new UI is infact based on Meego-ux(Intel) but still Meego-ux(was closed now open) is a rework of qt-compont(Nokia was open now closed in January).

Qt-components still closed, dont know why this still is the case I hoped it should opensource it at the conference but it seems not :@

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Flashing it on to device is not eMMC. eMMC is eMMC, device is NAND ROM. It's too buggy at the moment to even consider flashing it onto NAND. It won't be usable for anyone, everything crashing every once and a while which not very nice. But the UI is nice.

I kind of disliked the idea of multi-tasking windows overlapping with the Home screen. I would want my homescreen to be just that for widgets and other stuff. But there is no way to get back to home screen after you opened an application.

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Just flashed this new DE version and improvements are visible from previous alpha release.
Still slow, though, but it's at least beautiful.
Testing opera right now

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Hey daneel, if u plzz cannot help any1 then at least dont make fun of their problem. chill out... :)

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But ... but... don't you see the impossible nature of your request?

What you asked us to help you with was equivalent to asking how to fit 5 gallons of milk into a container than store only 3 gallons.

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What can i do as a mere person on my own but i tell you this community is far more capable to make an impression.
I have looked at the progress of MeeGo so far and it is clear to see they are NOT developing this for the N900 as the efforts are just not acceptable after this amount of time they have been at it, so you should see the work is more for the future development of new devices and not the N900.

OK i have an idea and as you have said what have i done, well apart from try to get everyone to realise what is going on they simply sit back and wait for it to happen and trust in the MeeGo dev team to make this miracle os for the 900 and it is just not happening is it so here is just my idea.....

This organisation is called Maemo.org and MeeGo is another site from this one and a site i have kept away from because my interests are only with the N900, the CSSU is kind of progressing but not getting very far in my estimation but i do feel very strongly that the only future that can exsist for the N900 is in fact Maemo and not MeeGo because of the hardware limitations involved.

Having said that i have an idea i will kick off and it will all depend on the members of this community as to how far it gets.

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its not even a problem to begin with.. if u want to install meego 1.2 go buy yourself a microsd card that was recommended.. at least 4gb.. *facepalm* man, where have you been?

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It is impossible to install a 5 gallons tank on the same space used by 3 gallons tank, but if you are only interested to the milk (MeeGo) it is of course possible to use a 3 gallons tank because the total milk presents (on your 5 gallons tank) is about 2 gallons.

You must extravasate from one tank to another.

But today's MicroSD prices tell us that it is more simple and fast to buy a 4GB microsd :D

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As MeeGo is open you can view and edit the code, just need to do a lil searching on their repos. I mean the MeeGo code from Nokia for our lil N900 is basically just slightly updated but based upon the original maemo code running on our N900's atm. Such as the telepathy stuff and phone apps. All of the code for Maemo phone application is in the MeeGo phone application BUT the MeeGo one is probably slightly updated and COMPLETELY OPEN! :)

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I am not flaming at ya or anything, I really don't see the point with childish arguments on this forums. Its just some people seem to grow Internet balls and start stupid arguments that waste time..

If you don't feel the CSSU progession isn't great which I do in actual fact disagree with as IMO the CSSU is miles better then what ANY phone manufacturer has ever pulled off with the amount of updates and features included :)

You are a developer or used to be, so dust up your prgramming and take up some CSSU projects! Maybe help rewrite open sources replacements for the base closed source applications within Maemo.

You can try and use the open MeeGo code and then use that to help create the reqrites, this would allow the community to do all the bug fixes themselves and also would mean that YOU will be able to show your skill and even make our N900 better. fterall a community is meant for people to contrubute their talents and help everyone out.

If I could program Qt,QML,GTK or any of them, I would definately help with these rewrites, unfortunately im swamped with exams and college work :(

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I have just read both of your posts in reply to mine this minute and i could say so much it would fill a few pages, i agree with your comments on most everything buttt sadly to say i believe strongly that if a job is worth doing it must be done right and that is where the problem begins......

Maemo is as you said far better than MeeGo would ever be for the N900 as lets face it it was designed and written by Nokia, if only only the drivers were that easy with all the closed components then i would have a stab at it regardless.

To emulate an os on an sd is not my way at all as it must be a complete flashable image over the current os, the bme alone is going to cripple that sufice to say without any of the other components so where does someone start?.

Since my last post on this thread i kicked off a poll for this community to try and get some movement on here towards squeezing some essentials out of Nokia for the CSSU, now the CSSU i have nothing but admiration for because them guys as you say have done bloody well considering and i know they are a minute away from the image i strive for as a working flashable os for the n900.

Yes i argue on here with some but it kind of vents my frustration at Nokia because i am more than peed of with them i can tell you, do not take any of my arguments serious as i am just as childish as the portrayers themselves at times and it kind of lands me in deep water haha.

Water off a ducks back but end of the day i would really love this community to make the impression they are sooo close too on Maemo and as the forum is full of all sorts including dreamers and pro's alike it can be a constant battle of wits to which i always in the end let them rattle on, this in fact stops progress in the area's it should be and that i feel is a great sadness for this community (i am just as guilty sometimes i tell you)..... wait and see is all we can do and i will jump in when i feel i can but it must be when at least 50% of the closed code is released to enable progression without having to guess.

Your posts are great to read keep up the good humor !.

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Just tried this release (first time I dared to install it) and I have to CONGRATULATE the SMALL team that made this possible.
Things start slow - well it is running from SD. It's like comparing running a Live distro from DVD to a proper install from SSD.
Things aren't implemented - well it's a first DEVELOPER release.

<rant>
So everybody stop all the whining and opinionated drivel and get on your bike and make this better.
</rant>
Now I just have to work out where to contribute. Too many things to chose from.

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First boot is always always slow due to it caching data for future startups. After letting it settle (may take many minutes) it helps