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I have never seen that i can remember 2 companies as big as what has happened here join together and if you look at some of the answers you gave such as "True, they are the biggest software company" you will see why i am really wondering just what will come out from the merger between these 2.

At least the OP's question should have been firmly answered on this thread in that MeeGo is not the future or next commitment from Nokia in any way or form.

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I take that as two big desperate companies losing market share faster than their mothers can <CENSORED>... aka a desperate act of saving their market share, which if you are to trust the Flint ratings means Nokia shares are pants!

MeeGo won't die, but it'll curse the day Nokia f**ked Intel... obviously somebody forgot to tell Nokia that parenting doesn't end after conception... :cool:

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They are incredibly huge, also billions (not millions) of people use products of both of them, recognize their brands.... I think this is almost unparalleld in history.

But size does not always matter. At least not for innovation and agility of a company.

But you are right, we are getting way off-topic. Sorry, I'll stop now.

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HAHAHA 2 very good replies there from both of you ;).

Maybe the OP don't mind us rattling on as the question of MeeGo is a forgone conclusion anyway.

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Personally i would have liked both Maemo and MeeGo to be developed much further by Nokia but i got this feeling that MS can outdo both in an instant if the hardware is right and that is the easy conclusion to make i guess as Nokia are very capable hardware wise but lets hope they aint peed off Intel too much hahaha or they will have to go elsewhere for a cpu :p.

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I am switching to an ANDROID Phone ASAP !!

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Android should always be your second mobile anyhow, i have a few myself to get me out of trouble if the N900 has any problems.

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Me too, as long as they both have Qt for app development.
Probably, but then: why do they have no monopoly in the mobile sector already, like they do with desktops?

It's because their usual strategy, to copy the technology leader and to kill off the competition by a series of fouls has not worked yet.

But soon it will. They copied a minimalistic UI from Apple and nailed their system down like Apple. I'm sure they joined with Oracle to sue Google on Android, they use their patents to charge hardware manufacturers for every Android device. Then they destroy Nokia by planting a CEO that kills off MeeGo.

Playing a little unfair (not letting the market alone deceide) to win, but that's how it's done obviously.

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That seems to be the conclusion if you still had hoped for MeeGo on your next Nokia phone.

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If you look at what MS are and do you will see that mobile hardware is not there thing at all, if i was CEO of MS and i wanted to go big in mobile software then i would look to buy a company that manufacturs mobile hardware.
They like everyone else in the world have been watching Nokia and with Nokia obviously failing mainly because of there software weakness, MS obviously seen what was happening with Nokia knowing full well the potential of a merger or buyout.

Buying out Nokia is not an option unless you have THAT much capitol to use so they waited for the right time to jump in with the merger offer bringing the 2 together as one basically.

Nokia WILL benefit no mater what in the long term as MS have a huge past record behind them and can sustain this for a very long time.

MS on the other hand needed to develop further in another field so with mobile hardware technology improving tremendously, they have made the move probably at the right time on mobile software now, having the right company to develop the hardware.

This merger will not be short lived in any way or form and people who think otherwise do not look deep enough into the 2 companies.

Something good has to happen on the law of averages alone so my mind is set on a wait and see basis but i bet we will not have to wait too long.

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two :O :O

my message is too long

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MeGo is dead as far as Nokia is concerned. Why waste money on an OS that is never going to be?

Short list of dead OS'es:
MeeGo


I am sure threads like this kill (MeeGo) more than even Elop could hope to accomplish. Christ I am looking forward to the date when Nokia ships the first device with WP. Hallelujah :D

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I'd even suggest that mobile software is not their thing at all. Even with the new approaches.

I almost fully agree.

Not the "old" Nokia, that would do everything for themselves (from design over hardware manufacturing to their own OS). They loved their independence. They were quite open for a large company in adopting new idears and approaching the free software communities (almost as consequently as Google)
This "old" Nokia is dead now. And almost all software they had. (Including MeeGo for Nokia phones to get that reference to the thread's topic)

Probably the best one for hardware, ture that in terms of quality. But what about price? I think the asian companies will soon rush the market with a lot of cheap devices with fair quality. (Including WP7 on those, but no MeeGo as far as I can see)

It's not a merger quite yet, but I think it will be some sort of soon.
But I'm not sure on the outcome. A thousand engineer's brains is not always better than 500 engineer's brains. Only if the steering is right. To harness the full potential, the management has to do the right job. And I'm afraid the "old" Nokia philosophy, to which some engineers there will still adhere, is fundamentally incompatible with that of Mircrosoft's engineers. I wonder if any Microsoft developer would ever work on MeeGo or Qt passionately (not that this is anywhere near any debate).

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I'm not saying it's dead. It's not dead at all.
It's a Linux Foundation project with strong support of Intel. That's more than most Linux distributions can offer.

It's just dead on Nokia hardware as long as Microsoft has any influence there (and they have with big $$$).

But we'll for sure see MeeGo Netbooks and Tablets (espectially with the comming Intel Atoms), maybe even smartphones by some asian manufacturer.

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Too bad we don't get good insider information, or if we do, its buried in all the speculation. Good information is what I want, and I have not seen that in a while.

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I even got MeeGo on my netbook, but so what? I also got Joli Cloud, and it beats MeeGo any day. And then it's that OS that widens the scope of your netbook like no other, open up endless possibilities, it's called Windows 7.

List of ecosystems:
Apple (suck the money and soul out of you)
Android (suck every bit of privacy out of you)
MeeGo (doesn't suck, doesn't anything, doesn't even exist, and never will)
Windows (the perfect blend of quality HW, and balanced software to support and boost your life)

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Alright, no comment.

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Maemo (A OS with a *****y support forum thats never happy with anything)

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lol you guys...

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why not ask Elop to come over here and just announce whether meego is still up or down forever ?
better than just babbling around .
2-3 devices will come upto 2014 ..so wait up guys .

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Look at Duke Nukem Forever! 12 years in the making! Many fans have waited! Just wait! Meego could be worth it... (maybe? I don't like what I see :( )

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Boot to the head. *whoosh*-THUNK!

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lol king odd ball

I want to vote your response as one of the best hah ha

that is so true - many ppl just wrote of the duke, and now its coming back !

but i think thats really the exception that proves the rule

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MeeGo is not a path to a door, but a road leading forever toward the horizon.

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MeeGo most definitely is dead on any Nokia devices. Symbian is also dead, and that is hell of a lot more earth shakening.

In a couple of weeks I am gonna stride down to some kiosk and get myself the last good Symbian phone that is ever going to be produced, the E6. After that the world will evolve around WP, and I predict that the first communicator-like device will not be out until at least a year.

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Everytime I read the subject, a dialog plays in my mind....

MeeGo: "Nokia, why have you turned your back on me? Intel and myself need you on this journey!"

Nokia: "You are dead to me :( Go away...."

(Nokia slowly walks away, heads down with hands bounded by chains together and a long leash on it's neck held by a sinister figure in the shadows...)

And scene.

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I knew it, Ballmer is satan :p

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I believe Nokia see Meego like a zombie, is dead but still walking, jeje. Sorry for my bad english.

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http://pleco.org/heh/Evil_Ballmer.jpg
Balmer:
"YOU WANT MICROSOFT BOB!
BUY A ZUNE! THEY'RE BETTER THAN iPOD!
YOU NEED WINDOWS PHONE 7!
COME ON! IT'S MADE BY NOKIA!"

"No? Not working?"
"DAMMIT!"
[begins throwing chairs like Donkey Kong throws barrels]
"WHY WON'T THEY ROLL?? ARRRRGH!"

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Meego is a dead horse. Get over it.

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WP7 is at much as dead. just released as unfinished product =) and not fixing any of the problems it have.

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You're right, WP7 is really a dead-end such that only Nokia would appreciate it.

Microsoft has solid plan to release Windows 8 (not WP8) on ARM next year and applications natively run on Windows 8/ARM would not compatible with WP7's.

Though Microsoft didn't say Windows platform on ARM is meant to replaced Windows Phone platform, but the collision in market segment is so obvious. Given same hardware, say I would want to use the platform that can run full version of Microsoft Office rather than cripple Office like Document to Go, etc.

Too bad Microsoft proactive obsolete WP7 way before Nokia could make a phone with it. So much for a partnership. :p

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This is what elop said about meego at the Uplinq conference:

We also had a second effort underway and that was an assessment of MeeGo. We had a lot of good work, a lot of innovation that had taken place around the MeeGo platform. But what we assessed was that we could not create a portfolio of devices, covering a full range of price points, fast enough with MeeGo, in order to respond to the competitive threats that we were facing. Because it is the case, in this marketplace, that a company like Nokia, certainly serving the high end, but also all the way down the price point ladder, in regions all around the world, that is the nature of our global position... While MeeGo helped us at the high end, we couldn't see it coming down fast enough, in order to help us solve all of our problems.

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UM I think not!

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Because... Windows Mobile 7 has proven itself of doing a spectacular job of meeting all those points? The more he opens his mouth, the more he demonstrates literally stupid thought processes and decisions. To quote Abraham Lincoln, "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

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Agree 100% with your comments Dan.
He's arguing the removal of Meego from their lpatforms because it can't serve all price points (and hardware spectrum) of the Nokia device base, but neither can WP7.
It certainly can't run on low end stuff, and sure as hell isn;t good enough to support the "top end" of town wrt devices.

If elop thinks Microsoft has an ecosystem in place because WP7 has Bing integrated and yo can pay to use x-box live on it, his concept of ecosystem is skewed indeed.
Methinks he uses the word to describe the idea of making profits in all areas related to mobile technology as opposed to an environment that meets the consumers wants and needs
then again, coming from a guy who used to work at a company that tried to describe bugs as product features, anything is possible....

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In a battle of wits Elop is a pacifist out of necessity. He's like the kid in the school orchestra that chimes a triangle once per song... at the wrong time. Nokia... what have you done? Ugh.

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I guess both can, but the question is at what cost. With wp7 microsoft has made a phone-only OS, while meego should run on all kinds of devices. I have no problem with nokias current strategy as long as they keep developing meego for the high-end.