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Stskeeps, you might not remember, but you have helped me countless times at meego irc when everyone else failed to.

It really saddens me to hear of this, since you're one of the valuable members that we can't afford to lose.

I wish you good luck at whatever you decide to do. Good day to you sir.

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It's really a shame that a single a55hole can take such a huge sh1t! Linux communities aren't nearly as good-natured as they were, say, 10 years ago. I guess too many whiny beotches wanting free sh1t! Please ban me if you want....there is not much to see here anymore..... Take care stskeeps and thanks for your work=)

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It is sad indeed, but I would also like to thank you, Carsten for all your efforts here. Also sad to see it took this announcement to find many *oldies* viewing this thread. Hope that the N900DE turns out to be everything you set out to do a few years back!

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Cheers for all your efforts, Carsten, and I'm sure we'll get to benefit from more of your great work in the future :)

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All the best Carsten and thanks for the support and info you've provided to so many at TMO.
See you at Meego and keep up the great work!

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Well, this is probably the first time I answer to one of your posts.

Still, I'd like to say thanks because I always enjoyed to read your posts.
Your posts have always been very informative, objective, polite and to the point.
Or to put it short: you always posted in a very professional way.

Thanks! and have a good time wherever you go ;)

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Carsten, thanks a lot for your consistency and integrity.

What a sad day!

It seems that there is a big interest in killing Meego as soon as posible, and breaking Meego and Maemo community is a good option.

See you at Meego.

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so long, thanks for everything <3

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It's one guy's opinion, but you're exactly the kind of person the world needs if free and open technology is to remain a realistic, sustainable possibility. My deepest appreciation for everything you've done for all of us. Best of luck to you.

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He is still on atleast Meego IRC channels :-) And contributes too MeegoDE ofcourse :-)

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Jesus guys, you sound as if this is a funeral, a the stskeeps just got backstabbed, cooked, skinned alive ... :mad:

I don't see stskeeps crying, so why would you?

As a matter of fact he will direct his positive energy to something positive, unlike the rest of us sitting here.


So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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All the best STSKEEPS

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Thank you Stskeeps for your work on Mer and MeeGo. I'm sure there are many silent readers like me who admired your dedication and contribution to the NITs over the years, keep up the good work.

P.S.
We all saw this coming, distro bashing is a big "no no" on any linux forum. MeeGo bashing and carsten bashing should have been harshly delt with.

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Stskeeps all the best for the future, I just hope this is not the first sign Meego DE will never really function on the N900 and the project will be ended.

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Stskeeps isn't going anywhere WRT MeeGo. Just saving his sanity by leaving TMO ;)

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Before a consensus forms that someone should be strung up or put down for this, I'd like a clearcut statement from the proported victim that he found the criticism so hard-hitting that he just couldn't take it any more.

Because I found the criticism absurd. I suppose there are a lot of people here with high-strung egos who would like to suppress opposition in general, but I never thought of Stskeeps as one of them.

I personally thought the petition thread was dumb and I criticised it harshly enough that a moderator issued a warning I thought was partly aimed at me, but I didn't feel sorry for Stskeeps -- I just felt sorry for sentient beings.

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May GOD BLESS YOU :)

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Well, take care and good luck with your future endeavours. And remember:

Bada rox - always :D

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He is doing what he should be doing and that is to concentrate his work on MeeGo in the right place, you can not serve 2 masters and he is clearly needed in the place he should be.
He cannot contribute to Maemo because of legal reasons and that is where the conflict derives because this is Maemo.org.
I want to see MeeGo much more established and he is doing the right thing to make this happen.

The 2 banners for MeeGo in the top right corner should not be on this Maemo.org community, wrong place for MeeGo.

Maemo and MeeGo do not belong together and I hope now Maemo is given the attention it deserves on Maemo.org.

Let Carsten get on with his work and we should do the same here.
We ALL can go join him on MeeGo.

Conflict over.

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may you you get a lot of cake in your life mate by that i mean women lol... anyways it seems like you was a huge contributor, may you get alot of good karma your way peace out :)

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geneven, Stskeeps isn't the victim. The community is the victim. Stskeeps got tired of correcting deliberate misinformation, the constant hijacking of threads, and completely unconstructive attitudes of a tiny (yet screeching) minority of the talk.maemo.org community. So, he's going to continue his work, still in the open, but not on this forum.

The departure of Stskeeps means that the number of members who actually contribute, and bring technical information to light, has been reduced, leaving the discourse here to be just that much less useful. Even in cases where he might not do the work himself, he consistently provided detailed and helpful information in order to aid those who might step up.

For this reason, the community is the victim. Perhaps you believe that Stskeeps hasn't contributed all that much, but post after post in this thread is a testament to his influence. The whole ban petition business was indeed ridiculous, because the disturbances caused by abill_uk should never have been allowed to continue on and on as they were.

P.S. talking **** is not criticism, nor is it opposition. Demands that the all others deliver to you all of your heart's desires are not arguments. It is just petulance.

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Perhaps you believe that the Pope is a hari-krishna.

Has Stskeeps appointed you his spokesman, or are you just making stuff up? It's hard for me to tell.

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ffs sake dont fight and piss in this thread

so stskeeps isnt posting here - no fvcking big deal and i dont mean it in an offensive way - if you want to keep talking to the guy go over to where the meego guys hang out and talk to him there - some of you act like u never see him again

its a shame - the internet always have trolls and the ONLY way to combat it is to ignore them - bans dont do sh1t if the guy is persistent enoiugh

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Once upon a time, this forum used to be a develop-friendly web, wich many of us, "curious hippies", with sincerely free contribution make this forum grow and attract both people and project / ideas.

Sad to see last year, this slowly turns to the opposite, with much more talk and winning with no real contribution, with more of us acting like politicians, with the "unquestionable truth" behind us, and doing more talk, less work. More hindering and creating a bad atmosphere, that hurts EVERY SINGLE person loged on this forum, owned of a NIT.
This is it.
Because every one of us wants our device to success and grow on projects, apps, usability and mods / hacker-friendly options. Call it what you want. And the leave of such a huge member of t.m.o like stskeeps is a huge miss for all of us.
And now i'm thinking about what's the cause this forum change so much, from a linux-hacker atmosphere to a low-end warez zoo. And have no answer.

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Check out the many wonderful threads here; I read them every day. Your generalization is unfair and untrue.

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He is doing what he wants because he wants to do it, not because you think he should. He is free to concentrate his work on as many things as he wants, and can serve as many "masters" as he wants. Help is needed by everyone everywhere.
He can contribute to Maemo or Meego as much as he wants. There is no conflict.
Meego wants Meego to be more established.

The 2 banners for Meego in the top right corner should stay. This is one of the right places for them.

He will get on with his work because he wants to, not because you are letting him. You have done no work here and will do no work here because you have no work to contribute.

Anyone that joins him on Meego will do so because they wanted to, not because you said that they can.

You are conflict incarnate.

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As dwaradzyn pointed out, we really need good moderators to prevent this thread slide from value adding discussion to a "low end warez zoo"...

more than half the posts I come across are e.g. useless speculation of the number of pixels in N9.... cmon guys, over and over, over and over people discuss the same @@@@ again and again...

In a way Stskeeps departure echoes that of qwerty12 (if you can remember the giant that guy was).

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Thank you Carsten for all that you have done and all that you are still doing. Looking forward to a wonderful N900 DE.

All the Best.

PS- Will still be stalking you meego-arm irc :)

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I guess this is a chance for abill_uk to step up and lead the community as he always wanted to, get all that work done that he has promised with his fabulous engineering skills, right?

Sad to see you leave carsten, hope to get my n900 fixed soon and help the Meego team squash bugs.

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Please, let's place the blame where the blame is due; not on a single person, but on a corporation. Nokia is the root cause of much of the whining and complaining here at tmo. Nokia mis-handled Maemo and the N900. If Nokia had invested the amount of support the N900 deserved there would be far less whining going on here.

For instance, imagine what would or wouldn't have happened if Nokia had properly addressed and fixed the usb port issue.

I think Carsten is understandably frustrated seeing so many unimaginable things happen lately: elop, microsoft, abandoning Meego, failing to release the developer device, lackluster MeeGo conference, elop's o **** moment, etc. I bet whether or not he will admit it to himself, Carsten is suffering from feeling like a good portion of his life for the last several years is collapsing around him. Yes, MeeGo is continuing on, but without a strong Nokia influence, where is it really heading, and does Carsten truely believe it meshes with his vision?

I thought Carsten should have been banned (for a short time) after starting the poll, clearly he needed a vacation away from here. It should have been clear to everyone that he would be leaving shortly after such a childish outburst, and not getting his way.

A lot of people looked down on the way qwerty left, and to me this is much the same. Unlike qwerty however, I think Carsten will be back, although not for some time, and not with the same activity level. After all he will need N900 users to make the DE a success, and where better to find them than here?

In the meantime, we'll all miss his contibutions. Hopefully he enjoys his well deserved vacation.

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In a way, except qwerty12 seemed angry at Nokia, and no one claimed his disaffection was caused by abil_uk, or Orange_Box, or whoever the Menace of the Moment was. Perhaps some helpful mindreader will explain all the emotions qwerty12 was feeling; I never understood them and never closely read the infamous parting obscene rant. We seem to have some proficient mindreaders in this thread -- someone was actually able to speculate about my inmost thoughts!

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Stskeeps, I also want to thank you for all your endeavours on TMO. You among many others have been great influence to this community and to me personally. Since N900 and TMO I fell in love with OSS and the open and free(as in freedom) way of creating new innovations and the OSS communities in general. Thanks again and all the best.

Hope to see you back here some time, even if just briefly :)

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ciao......

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Stskeeps is awesome. Sad to see tmo getting less awesome. :(

About the general state of affairs... The whole problem is Nokia's slowness to take "step 5" IMO. That will be a gush of fresh Harmattan wind the forum and the community are in much need. Then we will go on to having Harmattan newbie threads, N900 users angry with lack of backporting new apps, and finally the cool hacker threads exploring the new device!! :cool:

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Unlike qwerty12, stskeeps didn't pull a childish stunt with a software "update" and trash community members who didn't deserve it.

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Goodbye, drama queen.

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As such, Stskeeps you leave at bad timing. Some people might not acquaint you as well as other veterans do, and only remembered you by your recent debates with abill_uk.

Nevertheless, Godspeed and good luck.

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Man..we'll miss u...u were one of the best..thanks for all ur support...All the best...

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No.
http://twitter.com/stskeeps/status/79040873198923777

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You are kidding right.

He had "disaffection" for TMO posters alright - in particular the members of the council.