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@ daneel would extra swap on a class 10 mem card cut it for

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A compass! If only the n900 had that....

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Better keyboard, Harmattan, multi-touch, sexier construction..

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Already have it, it does help a bit but it does not really cut it.

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And don't forget 1GB RAM, 8GP camera, 4-row keyboard...

The only disappointment is the capacitive touchscreen, I would have preferred resistive.

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its got a 12mpx sensor i think ... the english in the whitesheet is a bit rough. it was specifying that the FRONT sensor's were identical, not the back .. it only said the back was capable of taking 8mpx shots. nothing about it being ONLY 8mpx.

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I like this idea, it shouldn't be a big problem for Nokia to produce for example a N900 version with at least 1GB RAM. If there are enough interested customers (1.000+) the chance is high that they accept this deal.

They could also make a version with 2GB RAM and call it the first smartphone with 2GB ram or something like that :P

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Resistive would have been preferable, obviously.

The front camera needs an upgrade much more than we need the extra megapixels.

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Ah, I really wish the wifi/bluetooth/etc chip on my N900 were user swapable :D It's the only thing not working, I think.

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They won't do it only for 1000 people. Also, 2GB RAM is as unlikely as the producion of a consumer N950. But I like N9 anyways.

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Wow, going by that huge list of "what the N950 doesn't have compared with the N9", it kinda made me think, y'know, Nokia *could've* done a Nokia and released this in Q4 2010 and it would have sunk like a brick. Maybe it is better of being a dev device. The N9 is like the N900's super sexy, slutty neice. The N950 looks like it's adopted, overweight brother.

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And just as impractical, IMO.

Personally, I'd rather have the overweight adopted brother.

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So there is no way to get one of those N950? :(

How do other people (developers) get it? O_o

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Commercial developers apply through developer.nokia.com. Community developers apply through the MeeGo Developer Device Program. qgil has a thread at forum.meego.com where he has described that process and is answering questions.

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I think that simile is 10km west of off-topic and accelerating away, but as with niece/brother, it's very much a matter of taste and requirements. Sure, the brother can fix your computer or go fishing with you, but I can think of some things I'd rather have the niece for...

Cutting the dodgy simile right out: there is a worrying lack of understanding here (often from very intelligent people) that things like 'practical' and 'desirable' are all relative. Lots of people who would be miserable with an N900 may well end up buying and loving the N9.

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Stupid decision. What do they loose by making it buyable?

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They would loose nothing, but ADD a lot off common sense to their hustle.:confused:

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Thanks for the pointers, submission sent. :D

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They would lose more money and time refining the hardware or in warranty repairs. They said 'no warranty' for a reason - probably the same reason they replaced it with a unibody device where nothing can be replaced (so not much can go wrong).

It's a sensible idea considering a qwerty keyboard doesn't sell a device (see sales of Android devices, as an example). It's just a disappointing one, considering I don't think I can bear using an eyes-free input device for my main phone.

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Wait.

I have this awesome idea for a NFC app -- how do I use a n950 to develop that if it has no NFC capabilities... ?

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Woot. I cant wait for the n950. I was getting worried the n900 would be my last Nokia phone.. but i guess now =)

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You can simulate it with some sort of sticker. It was done at the MeeGo SF conf with a C7. Don't ask me how it works ;)

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Not my image of how a phone manufacturer should operate, I would hope they would be confident in producing excellent hardware with a qwerty keyboard -- after all, they made the N900 and have the opportunity to learn from their mistakes to make the perfect device many of this forum have been desperate for..

They are very close with the n950, except the specs are not he same as the n9 and it loses some awesome features in the n900.

I think we are from different schools of thought, no biggies - if your point were to stand though, .. sell it without warranty (if legal)

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Great, if anyone knows a little more about this please post a link (i will do some research and do the same)

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Search for the video coverage of Engadget on the MeeGo SF conference hall. They visit the stand and the guy does the full demonstration.

NFC have some kind of one-sized mode of some sort, so some functionalities (if not all) works with an non-NFC-enabled hardware. Even the Google Wallet thing, that is NFC based, is supposed to work without it.

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This is why I get the feeling the N950 is just being given out to clear stock of a device they canned.

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The Nokia C7 does have NFC (albeit incomplete from a software point of view).

Sorry again, but if a handset doesn't have NFC capabilities, it just doesn't. It can't be emulated unless you add additional hardware to it (a simple sticker wouldn't cut it).

By the way, NFC does have different modes of operation. A handset that supports NFC can act as a reader/writer, communicate in a peer2peer fashion with another NFC enabled device, or act as a card (card emulation mode). In all threee cases, the handset must have NFC hardware. You just can't emulate that without the needed hardware.

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It's easy - QWERTY keyboards add bulk and complexity, and people don't buy them anyway (in appreciable amounts). Out of those that do, a large minority would buy the same phone without a keyboard if they weren't given a choice (check out the droid forums for many examples)

A general N950 release would cannibalise sales of the N9, increase warranty repairs & returns, reduce the scale of production for each device and not sell very well. That's not counting the extra R&D costs, marketing, etc.

It's a shame, but it just doesn't make sense.

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They are making HW KB phones smaller by the year so I seriously doubt that's the case. Simple Nokia wanna run the candybar store. Cause trust me my HTC G2 is a pretty slim HW KB phone my man. Bottom line is this as long as business users are around (me being one of them) than I'll need a full HW KB. I can see me now editing a doc on the go full touch screen. Oh the errors I just might make ;)

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Other manufactures do it anyway, marketing it as business devices. Well, didn't Nokia themselves release the E7? Something isn't right in the reasoning here.

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I suspect that the statement that people don't buy devices with keyboards just isn't true unless you find a way to skew the statistcs.
I'm looking at a Samsung phone with TWO keyboards. Then I have a couple of Kindles with keyboards. I have an N810 and N900 with keyboards. A Palm Centro with a keyboard.

So, you are saying people hated these devices? I doubt it.

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The answer is simpler than that: MeeGo is not the focus, so they don't want to focus too much energy on this. The MeeGo/Harmattan team is lucky to still exists, so Nokia is not betting too much cards on it.

On the current condition, they could scrap the idea entirely, or bet as much as possible in a single shot, to make it more polished, and easier to develop - so it's obvious with the design choices followed the mainstream crowd to be "safe" (closed battery, unibody, slate design, simple interface, etc)

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Ok so i assume there is an error on the spec. list then for the n950

How am I going to develop a NFC orinetated application without any NFC hardware on the n950 ?

Something here doesn't add up particularly well

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as a (very random) post -- I'd like green keys on a black n950

a little like thishttp://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/...tgreenkeys.jpg

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Your HTC Desire Z is much fatter and heavier than a standard Desire though.

Well done on your collection. I like proper keyboards too, but go to a phone retailer and ask how many people ask for a QWERTY keyboard (if any keyboard at all). This is why there are many android touch phones but only very few QWERTY phones. In fact, I'd suggest that HTC aren't in a rush to update the Desire Z because it's not a big seller, and they know it's a good way to shift a low-specced phone to the small hardcore that still want physical keyboards.

Yeh, and they're having a hard time shifting the E7. From my own experience, the majority of 'business' users want you to support their iPhones. There are a few Blackberry stalwarts, but I don't know many anymore.

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I take it you never saw the phone in person. Compare to candybar phones its not that might fatter or heavier. I for one like a phone with weight on it so it feels solid that's just me. And guess you haven't seen HTC new line up a few HW KB phones are coming out and soon. My touch slide is one of them. I have pretty much every HTC winmo slider and they are getting smaller and smaller every year and by smaller I mean thinner. Hell the N950 isn't too much thicker than the N9 so the whole thicker and heavier is a mute point IMO.

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I think Nokia got it backwards. The N9 should be given to developers to create applications for everyday consumers. The n950 should be marketed to smart consumers that would take advantage of the hw keyboard and see it as a real plus!

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Apple is also tinkering with the idea of a hardware keyboard, apparently, many of their users requested this feature.

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I want an i7Mobile 16-cores @ 5.0Ghz, a Quad-SLI of GTX590Mobile's, 32GB of DDR6 RAM @ 3000Mhz, a freaking huge QWERTY keyboard and a 10" Full HD LED screen on it. It will still need to be pocketable.

But I guess we'd need a whole nuclear station to power it...

So,
All I ask is a revised N900 with a "better" on everything, specially battery.

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Lol, well I´m going to make a few mentions of the desire for the N950 on conversations.nokia.com and twitter feeds. Make some noise about how awesome it would be to also get the N950 released :)

http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...es-is-a-swipe/

Is it going to work? Probably not a chance in hell.
Is it worth it? Absolutely!