Re: [Mockup] Hildon Redesign
 

wow, looking good

Re: [Mockup] Hildon Redesign
 

If you want to redesign hildon, then you can not use
Qt Quick. Hildon is an extension to GTk (some extra
widget, some extra (maemo5-related) functions and
of course the hildon theme).
You can implement some of your changes with a custom
theme. For other things you may have to reimplement
the maemo5 hildon desktop (hildon-statusbar, hildon-home
and hildon-desktop).

It is not impossible, but you need a developer who is
familiar with GTK and hildon-desktop/home.

nicolai

Re: [Mockup] Hildon Redesign
 

*chuckles*

I recommend you read up on the process of Paper Prototyping. It may well change your attitude.

Nothing beats a whiteboard, some post-it notes and a pen when it comes to design. Programmers are frankly the worst designers on the planet when it comes to UI design and the concept of HCI.

Re: [Mockup] Hildon Redesign
 

yet another member that dont understand my point....
i did not say that the design on this hildon mockup is bad...it a gud idea to create a different kind of desktop but like you said...
programmers are the worst designers & the same way around so if the designers can produce a wonderful works of art doesn't mean that he can create a program/codes that work with it...so what is the important right now...
a proper program that works on our beloved n900 or just a wonderful design that only look gud on paper???

Re: [Mockup] Hildon Redesign
 

The production of a really good UI is a process of trial and error. The usability is not something you can work on without having a large set of humans outwith the design process to pick up the ball and run with it. If you are a programmer, you have preconceived ideas how a system will operate (which are 100% correct in your own mind) and you will work towards that target.

A good, intuitive system is the product are many cycles of design, implement and test. While prototyping through may bring about a very quick piece of software and hardware, it still takes time, limits you to the framework you are implementing in (either in terms of software restriction, or the time to implement framework to cope with the new concept).

If you work with a piece of paper and get the end-user to "click the button" on the piece of paper with actors taking the roles of modules and components, it may seem a little silly at first, but you have the means of many cycles of POC within the same session. How many software prototypes can boast multiple iterations and vast design changes within the space of a single hour.

Carolyn Snyder's "Paper Prototyping" is an incredible read. Well worth a look, because it avoids completely the aspects you discuss about the real restrictions, and deals wholly with what the end product is like to work with.

E.g. the redesigns here are really nice but I have reservations straight away about the size of the components. The mockups look great on my 24" monitor, but I'm concerned if look at them on a screen the size of my N900 then I would quickly get weary of the them (just a case example - not a criticism, but something that needs consideration).

I'm digressing! But my point is designers should not be restricted by what a coder can do and vice versa. And above all else the HCI champion should have the casting vote :)

Re: [Mockup] Hildon Redesign
 

Yeah, the pixel density on the N900 makes it hard to approximate the size of the items on-screen (unless you view the picture fullscreen on the device)

Anyways, I made it a point to make letters/glyphs at least as big as the system font (which is around 4-6pt in Photoshop)

Re: [Mockup] Hildon Redesign
 

will this ever be available on the N900?

is any one working on it?:confused:

really really like the design

Re: [Mockup] Hildon Redesign
 

+ 1

Regards Dousan...

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+ port it to harmattan too :D

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would be very happy to donate something to get the ball rolling :D

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seems like Hurrian is still downloading Qt Quick :p lol

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I never got around to it, that's all.

Now that my N900 isn't my main phone, I'm free to poke around Fremantle as much as I like in my free time.