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momcilo 2011-09-07 09:23
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Here is an update: the flash 11 will work for about a year. :mad:

Then everybody will join a new thread: "When can we expect flash 12 update? :eek:

jalyst 2011-09-08 06:25
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Jolo, please tell us what's happening.
<SNIP>

prankster 2011-09-08 09:55
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
fennec does not have the official version of flash player at all ,not yet .ARM versions of flash player are not freely available cuz of licensing issues .meego UI is very much limited than maemo5 but the current rage from devs is too much for meego and ye nokia support still with no luck .ciao

jalyst 2011-09-09 05:34
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by prankster (Post 1084122)
fennec does not have the official version of flash player at all ,not yet .ARM versions of flash player are not freely available cuz of licensing issues
Um yes we know that, that is why we're waiting for jolo to give us an update.


Quote:
.meego UI is very much limited than maemo5 but the current rage from devs is too much for meego and ye nokia support still with no luck .ciao
Huh?
It's debatable whether it's limited, work-arounds can/will be found to loosen things.
Besides, that has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

jalyst 2011-09-12 15:51
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
C'mon Jolo, please tell us what's happening!!

Don't ignore us, that's not cool, esp. when 8wks ago you were sure things are looking +ve.
Don't drag this out anymore, if it's fallen-through just tell us!

Thank-you.

olympus 2011-09-12 16:15
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
lol.. just give it up i guess..

jalyst 2011-09-13 07:07
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Nope, not until they have the decency to give us an update.
Doesn't have to be the update we want to hear...
But the polite thing to do is to close-it-out properly, not leave us hanging.

rentze 2011-09-13 07:09
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
You'll get the update when the phone is out...

jalyst 2011-09-13 07:24
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Not good enough, jolo was going to let us know before then.

In all fairness....
We should have had the "update" when it was revealed in June.

By that stage we should have at least had official word that:

"Yes it's coming, either for launch or the 1st major update"
OR
"We've no plans to offer flash 10.x/11.x for the N9 launch, or with future updates"

jalyst 2011-09-30 02:34
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jolo (Post 1062968)
The application development is moving forward in a good way, business discussions are also positive.
I don't have a planned date, as we need to get the implementations certified, but I am feeling positive about this.
jolo... can we PLEASE get come clarity on this now!?
It's dragging on way too long....

If we still don't have a yes or no answer at this late stage.
How can we possibly er on the side of positive thinking.

BigBadGuber! 2011-09-30 03:00
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1099348)
jolo... can we PLEASE get come clarity on this now!?
It's dragging on way too long....

If we still don't have a yes or no answer at this late stage.
How can we possibly er on the side of positive thinking.
when u buy it and it doesnt have it and u rant, the community will say that u didnt do enough research. go figure

jalyst 2011-09-30 06:47
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
I just think it's pretty uncool to ignore people...
Esp. since it was made out that attempts were being made to deliver something.
The very least one could do, is inform us that it hasn't been successful.
Seems like even that's asking for too much...

Markosib 2011-09-30 07:02
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
perhaps no news is good news!

jalyst 2011-10-01 06:49
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Nope, silence is usually non-delivery... :/
In my experience over the years with Maemo/MeeGo, & soon Meltemi/Tizen.
Very uncool to not at least update people with the the sad news.

erendorn 2011-10-01 10:11
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
have you contacted him directly? He may just not follow those threads regularly/at all.

misterc 2011-10-01 11:04
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
1 Attachment(s)
from his profile... last logged in about 2 months ago...
unless you have some external e-mail addy...

misterc 2011-10-01 11:42
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1100203)
from his profile... last logged in about 2 months ago...
unless you have some external e-mail addy...
found another profile, as NOKIA developer...
last log-in on 18th of june....
but s/he never seemed very active there (1 post in 8 yrs)
stopped working @ NOKIA maybe?

jalyst 2011-10-02 15:00
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1100184)
have you contacted him directly? He may just not follow those threads regularly/at all.
If I had a means of doing so, I would.

Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1100203)
from his profile... last logged in about 2 months ago...
unless you have some external e-mail addy??
Alas no... :(

Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1100216)
found another profile, as NOKIA developer...
last log-in on 18th of june....
but s/he never seemed very active there (1 post in 8 yrs)
stopped working @ NOKIA maybe?
2mth since last post here, & once in "8yrs" @developer.nokia.com?
Geez... You're right, probably moved on... :(
Would've been nice for whomever took over, to let us know what the hell's happening.

Frappacino 2011-10-02 15:07
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
if you have no news, it means nothing is being delivered duh - how can it be otherwise ?

jalyst 2011-10-03 07:19
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Well... that's what I've kinda been asserting, duh.
Doesn't change the fact that it's not very cool, not updating everyone.

erendorn 2011-10-03 07:35
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
But I really think that no one knows that you are waiting for updates, nothing else.

jalyst 2011-10-04 04:04
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
you're probably right, but I've no idea how to get in touch.
So I guess we just let this thread die....

gerbick 2011-10-04 04:10
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Flash just more than likely wasn't meant to be. But as of right now, it's not on WP7 either despite me anticipating it was going to be there as well.

Blame whomever you wish - most folks will say Adobe, I blame the people that don't license it.

jalyst 2011-10-05 09:43
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Yeah everyone but Nokia seems to be supporting Flash 11 this time round.
iOS, BB, Android.... sigh :(

[cynical]
Nokia prolly will end-up supporting flash for WP, just to make N9 look even more crap
[/cynical]

anonymous 2011-10-05 10:53
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
If you guys are still looking for him, I think I found him. @j_loughney

jalyst 2011-10-20 09:19
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Thanks, I've tried tweeting him...
If I get a response (I doubt it) I'll update this thread.

jalyst 2011-10-20 14:55
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Well, this might be positive news, or it might mean nothing
https://twitter.com/#!/j_loughney/st...26492466139136
But in the context of what Konttori's been saying, it does sound 'mildly' positive.

jalyst 2011-10-20 20:25
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1111358)
Well, this might be positive news, or it might mean nothing
https://twitter.com/#!/j_loughney/st...26492466139136
But in the context of what Konttori's been saying, it does sound 'mildly' positive.
And so the non-answers, & cryptic response continue, sigh :(
https://twitter.com/#!/j_loughney/st...40636921716736

Creamy Goodness 2011-10-20 22:44
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
that sounds pretty good honestly.
"working on it" > "no comment"

erendorn 2011-10-20 22:58
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
What I like with Nokia and the Maemo line, is that they have two ways of tackling issues:
  • They don't talk about it, and they don't do it
  • They don't talk about it, but amazingly it still gets done

Although to be fair, the same versions with "they talk about it" also exist.

So let's see how this goes, it's not lost :)

jalyst 2011-10-21 16:12
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 1111511)
that sounds pretty good honestly.
"working on it" > "no comment"
Yeah & then later Konttori graduated from "no comment" to "maybe flash".
(something along those lines, same blog-post, in the comments IIRC)

Sigh... the painful mystery will have remain for a bit longer!!
Hopefully we'll definitely know in a month...
I'm assuming it's definitely not coming at this point, it's easier that way.

https://twitter.com/#!/JediTWang/sta...24607739248640

rafpac 2011-10-22 03:53
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jolo (Post 1050222)
N9 browser is a fast, mobile browser. Fennec is a full featured browser. We are attempting to get the Adobe Flash app certified for use with Fennec. This would allow users to install Fennec and have flash for it. People who don't want/don't care about Flash can use the N9 browser. We have it working already, but just need to get it certified.
Jolo I could Kiss you.

rafpac 2011-10-22 05:25
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
I just took the time to read the whole thread. congrats jalyst you have successfuly scared off jolo from maemo.org. pretty soon jolo wont even bother with twitter. so Stop harrassing jolo. Now boys and girls i guess, we strike the heart of this problem......adobe. I say lets open up a thread massive on their forums with the cast and crew of maemo and meego forums ofcourse and force them to get nokia to accept flash. in all seriousness maybe pushinh adobe might bring us some luck as well. i like jalysts idea of paying for flash by the end user. so lets tell adobe so. they might like the idea. who is with me????

Creamy Goodness 2011-10-22 05:55
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3914096#3914096

jalyst 2011-10-22 08:26
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rafpac (Post 1111934)
I just took the time to read the whole thread. congrats jalyst you have successfuly scared off jolo from maemo.org. pretty soon jolo wont even bother with twitter. so Stop harrassing jolo.
Get a life, I've done nothing of the sort. If you'd read all the posts properly.
You'd know he's very rarely visited this forum in the past, nor in more recent times.
In fact, for the past 11-weeks he's not logged-in at all, & hence not even seen the posts I've made.
I've been one of a handful of users that's proactively tried to determine the status of this issue.

I don't deny I've become somewhat whiny at times, but I'm far from alone there.
In many other threads the issue is "incessantly" raised...
Which is why I've tried to find-out more about it's status in this more appropriate thread.
And besides, I fail to see the logic that my *****ing has "scared him away".
It matters little as far as an end results goes....

Quote:
Now boys and girls i guess, we strike the heart of this problem......adobe. I say lets open up a thread massive on their forums with the cast and crew of maemo and meego forums ofcourse and force them to get nokia to accept flash. in all seriousness maybe pushinh adobe might bring us some luck as well. i like jalysts idea of paying for flash by the end user. so lets tell adobe so. they might like the idea. who is with me????
It's got nothing to do with Adobe....
And everything to do with Nokia management deciding whether they want to fork-out the $$.
I doubt approaching Adobe directly & suggesting they remodel their licensing just for maemo/meego users will work.
It can't hurt to "have a crack" I guess, but 1st we should let Nokia<->Adobe discussions take their course.
It's clear something is still ongoing, hopefully we'll now sooner rather than later if it was successful or not!

jalyst 2011-10-22 08:27
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 1111946)
Yeah we know about that, it predates some of the more recent responses from Konttori & Jolo.

rafpac 2011-10-22 19:18
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1111968)
Get a life, I've done nothing of the sort. If you'd read all the posts properly.
You'd know he's very rarely visited this forum in the past, nor in more recent times.
In fact, for the past 11-weeks he's not logged-in at all, & hence not even seen the posts I've made.
I've been one of a handful of users that's proactively tried to determine the status of this issue.

I don't deny I've become somewhat whiny at times, but I'm far from alone there.
In many other threads the issue is "incessantly" raised...
Which is why I've tried to find-out more about it's status in this more appropriate thread.
And besides, I fail to see the logic that my *****ing has "scared him away".
It matters little as far as an end results goes....



It's got nothing to do with Adobe....
And everything to do with Nokia management deciding whether they want to fork-out the $$.
I doubt approaching Adobe directly & suggesting they remodel their licensing just for maemo/meego users will work.
It can't hurt to "have a crack" I guess, but 1st we should let Nokia<->Adobe discussions take their course.
It's clear something is still ongoing, hopefully we'll now sooner rather than later if it was successful or not!
Sorry Jalyst. I was not really accusing you dude. I was just kidding...my failed attempt at humor it seems. I was just playing on the fact that Jolo disappeared and you were also asking him questions so it must have been that he was hiding from you. Sorry
no offence intended.

jalyst 2011-10-22 19:32
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Oh I see, LOL, well no "biggy" then! ;)

rafpac 2011-10-22 19:40
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Just created a thread...people start pouring your hearts out and Adobe might listen if Nokia wont:

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/916652

Viva La N9

shallimus 2011-10-22 20:02
Re: Is this true that the n9 will have flash with fennec ?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jalyst (Post 1111968)
Get a life
Argh! jalyst, nooooooo! :( It's just rafpac's [slightly wonky] attempt at humour. Don't wear your heart on your sleeve!

Quote:
Originally Posted by rafpac
Jolo I could Kiss you.
If anything is likely to scare jolo away from TMO, this is surely it? ;)


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