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IcyMoustache

2011-07-09 08:32

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

http://dgui.wordpress.com/2011/07/08...he-aha-moment/

IcyMoustache

2011-07-09 09:11

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

I so wish it is Nokia.!!!!!

1. Nokia killed off wearemeego, which was wearemaemo. Now it is wearetabco.... Maybe after all they are rebranding the MeeGo for TabCo... A change of brand, badly wanted?

2. I seriously hope it is not the Win 8, which is very likely too,.

mrsellout

2011-07-09 10:15

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

I liked this article from MeeGoExperts, back in April. I'm surprised no-one has mentioned it.

Other sources have meltemi down as either the codename for the windows phone project (but then again wasn't that Mango?) or the adaptation of the Swipe UX to Symbian.

There was a leaked internal that memo said, “There will also be opportunities within the Meltemi organisation, for personnel working within the MeeGo teams.”

This could be in line with Harmattan MeeGo naming process, maybe there could be a Meltemi MeeGo device, perhaps with an Intel chip?
Who knows?

benny1967

2011-07-09 12:25

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

According to this blog post, the PR company behind the whole campaign is 3marketeers. They are located near HP and in the past have worked for Apple, HP, Samsung and Sony (among others). No documented common history with Nokia so far.

The blog also claims they had received a German language mail from those PR guys.

Dave999

2011-07-09 12:33

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1047699)

I want that German language mail...

gerbick

2011-07-09 12:54

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1047701)

I want that German language mail...

Was wird gewünscht?

Dave999

2011-07-09 12:58

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1047705)

Was wird gewünscht?

was sagst du? Ich spreche keine deutch. :p

So back to the mail, the tablet and tabco...

glabifrons

2011-07-09 14:54

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Has anyone considered the possibility that it could be a new company started by all those who've left Nokia's Maemo/MeeGo teams?

Edit: Left intentionally or otherwise.

benny1967

2011-07-09 15:06

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by glabifrons (Post 1047747)

Has anyone considered the possibility that it could be a new company started by all those who've left Nokia's Maemo/MeeGo teams?

Thought about it. I'm not sure if they would have had enough time, though. Founding a new company? No way. Bringing their ideas and expertise to an existing company? Yes, possible. But to create a whole new product from scratch within the Elop-timeframe? I hardly think so.

benny1967

2011-07-09 15:10

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

BTW: Tabco sounded so familiar to me... now I realized why.

lma	2011-07-09 16:16

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by glabifrons (Post 1047747)

Has anyone considered the possibility that it could be a new company started by all those who've left Nokia's Maemo/MeeGo teams?

There is some precedent along those lines. The result wasn't a million miles away either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 1047752)

But to create a whole new product from scratch within the Elop-timeframe? I hardly think so.

Not impossible, if adding a new UI on top of a relatively mature platform and someone else's pre-existing hardware designs.

slaapliedje

2011-07-09 16:50

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Another point in this thread that someone hasn't mentioned.

The tendency for Nokia lately to be poking fun at Apple.

The huge "Forget the Fruit" would piss off Apple, and since Intel sells processors to Apple, I would tend to think it's not them.

Nokia made the joke about not needing to worry about holding the N9 incorrectly during their announcement of it.

And American companies generally don't have a huge sense of humor (with perhaps the exception of Google).

It could quite easily be a startup, especially with the ex-Nokia people being behind it. It may be an actual tablet I could get without having to Hack MeeGo onto it, which makes me happy!

slaapliedje

Cassio

2011-07-10 09:06

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quoting the article from The Register about an internal memo on Nokia cuts in the company, this is the interesting part of the memo:

"The Windows Phone organization has started to ramp up its operations and a large part of that organization will be in place by the end of 2011, and Nokia aims to retain as many people as possible from other areas, such as the Symbian and MeeGo organizations.
There will also be opportunities within the Meltemi organization, for personnel working within the MeeGo teams."

From this memo it seems that the Meltemi organization and the WP organization are two different things.

From TabCo's twitter:

"SupaKeith Keith Dean
@WeAreTabCo what's your stock symbol?
6 Lug
in risposta a ↑
@WeAreTabCo
TabCo
@supakeith We're a privately held company backed by some great investors."

They could be a private USA company backed by Nokia or Intel...

Oh and one last thing. They asked via Facebook this question:

"We have another question for you. (We're full of them, if you couldn't already tell by the name of our page.) How many apps do you have on your smartphone or tablet?

-Enough to get me by – weather app, map app, Angry Birds app, beer locator app...
-All of the apps in the Apple store. Yep, that’s right, all 350,000 of them.
-Well…um…ok, I don’t have a smartphone OR a tablet. There, I said it!
-No Games, only useful apps. Games are much worth to play in PSP or NDS"

If they were using MeeGo as their OS it would make sense since they couldn't offer a huge selection of apps. ;)

casper27

2011-07-10 09:27

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Im going on record to state it's Zehjotkah's new company with a MeeGo OS. Date stamped today...

Cassio

2011-07-10 09:55

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 1048155)

Im going on record to state it's Zehjotkah's new company with a MeeGo OS. Date stamped today...

I doubt Zehjotkah is involved. From zeh's twitter:

"WeAreTabCo TabCo
New blog post: How to Sell your iPad on eBay http://bit.ly/qid8sp #WhoIsTabCo
8 Lug

zehjotkah Cosimo @
I love TabCo's marketing campaign... @WeAreTabCo
8 Lug

WeAreTabCo TabCo @
@zehjotkah Glad you like it! Have you seen our new blog post? http://bit.ly/qid8sp
8 Lug
in risposta a ↑
@zehjotkah
Cosimo
@WeAreTabCo I don't care if it's an "Aha!-OS"... I care if it's based on Linux and standard FOSS."

phedders

2011-07-11 09:07

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

The quote here really gives me hope:

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...1&postcount=46

"Just for clarification: the whole thing about future disruptions is about what comes after the N9, not the N9 itself."

See also http://www.slashgear.com/meego-focus...stem-11132759/
And http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...101_page_3.htm

Quote:

Elop's third priority has been dubbed New Disruptions. It's a fully sanctioned skunkworks, with teams in Helsinki and Silicon Valley, staffed by top technical talent from the discontinued Symbian and MeeGo efforts, especially MeeGo. That initiative began when Nokia hired a crew of inventive open source evangelists in 2009 with orders to dream up entirely new devices. A few months later they were reassigned to develop a replacement for Symbian. The goal, as Elop told a group of engineers in Berlin on Feb. 29, is once again to "find that next big thing that blows away Apple, Android, and everything we're doing with Microsoft right now and makes it irrelevant—all of it. So go for it, without having to worry about saving Nokia's rear end in the next 12 months. I've taken off the handcuffs."

Please please please make tabco be a Harmatten/Meego device!!!

ericsson

2011-07-11 09:35

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by phedders (Post 1048739)

"Just for clarification: the whole thing about future disruptions is about what comes after the N9, not the N9 itself."

What's the point? The N9 is as disruptive as they come. A disruptive device is something that changes peoples attention from something that is to something new, or is perceived as new. Clearly the N9 has changed peoples attention away from Symbian, away from Android, away from WP and away from iOS and toward the N9 and Nokia.

A disruption kicks in all directions. What is the point of disruption when Nokia is going Microsoft?

Hurrian

2011-07-11 09:42

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by phedders (Post 1048739)

"Just for clarification: the whole thing about future disruptions is about what comes after the N9, not the N9 itself."

Hmm, Elop green-lighting a MeeGo skunkworks team disconnected from Nokia?
This looks interesting. Also, someone said earlier in the thread that red and black -> opposite of Nokia colors.

Also, since Microsoft will definitely disallow making a swipe UI for WP7 this looks like a sensible decision, instead of simply canning Nokia's R&D.

Should the N9 be a hit, and Nokia's WP7 spectacularly fail, they'll likely ride the wave and start making successors to the N9.

Finally, they'll hopefully not pull a Nokia and close-source everything that stops up from porting the UI to other devices, or simply fixing what's broken on ours.

Dave999

2011-07-11 10:12

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

What about elop realized that he can't push the issues he wants with ms/win7 and are not able to differentiate nokia products. So he starting on this new company to kick down doors and give free hands to keep producing meego devices. That way he dont break his word about no more meego from nokia.

bergie

2011-07-11 10:41

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassio (Post 1048148)

From this memo it seems that the Meltemi organization and the WP organization are two different things.

If you really want to be conspiratorial, then it should be noted that meltemi is a wind.

The list of winds includes some other famous ones, like Chinook, Diablo, Elephanta, Fremantle and Harmattan :rolleyes:

Cassio

2011-07-11 11:07

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by bergie (Post 1048772)

And Mistral, Scirocco, Gregale and Sardine too.
Still I'm not sure that this TabCo will be a nokia-maemo/meego tablet, IMHO just a (true)meego device with some kind of new/innovative UI. Of course it's just speculation :P

PS: I forgot where, but I read that Amazon will introduce two new (android?) tablets this summer...

jnack95

2011-07-11 11:29

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Maybe it is the "something" from Samsung that "somebody" said we should keep an eye out for.......we can only hope@!

jo21	2011-07-11 15:23

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 1047379)

think it will have a swipe UI kinda like N9, Nokia was clear that would live on but would not say in what form?
Nokia have been talking a lot about not releasing just another tablet and being the 201st with nothing new and will look to bring something different to the market unlike the other 200, TabCo seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet as Nokia.

if have windows i doubt it.
it will have those annoying tiles.

richie

2011-07-11 18:56

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnack95 (Post 1048794)

Maybe it is the "something" from Samsung that "somebody" said we should keep an eye out for.......we can only hope@!

It would be disappointing if Raster's project is only for tablets

NOkk3r1

2011-07-11 20:39

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Two weeks ago my friend told that he's going to be assigned to new team called meldsomething(didn't pay the name much attention...) as his work within meego team is ending. He didn't wanted/couldn't talk about it anything more. I thought it would be something to get new job within nokia, but it would be natural to him continue to work with the winds...

So Nokia is continuing their journey with their winds and they are recruiting meego/harmattan people to that team. Don't know if this has anything to do with tabco(or maemo/meego/n9), but at least they aren't completely burying linux.:rolleyes:;)

jflatt

2011-07-11 20:49

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by bergie (Post 1048772)

The WP7 project should have been named after this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loo_(wind)

tzsm98

2011-07-11 20:58

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Here is what whois search returned for me:

Code:

WHOISTABCO.COM SITE INFORMATION

IP: 216.75.60.76

IP Location: San Diego, United States

Website Status: active

Server Type: Apache/2.2.17 (Ubuntu)

Alexa Trend/Rank:  1 Month: 200,313    3 Month: 554,057

Page Views per Visit: 1 Month: 2.5    3 Month: 2.5



REGISTRY WHOIS FOR WHOISTABCO.COM

Domain Name: whoistabco.com 

Updated: 1 second ago - Refresh 



Registrar: DOTSTER, INC.

Whois Server: whois.dotster.com

Referral URL: http://www.dotster.com

Status: OK



Expiration Date: 2012-05-23

Creation Date: 2011-05-23

Last Update Date: 2011-06-07

Beats me who it is.

tzsm98

2011-07-11 21:00

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by jflatt (Post 1049128)

The WP7 project should have been named after this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loo_(wind)

Now I'm sorry I looked it up. I was happier assuming it was the breeze after crossing a line of festival porta-potties.;)

gerbick

2011-07-11 21:08

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

San Diego... isn't Quim in SD?

Dave999

2011-07-11 21:20

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1049137)

San Diego... isn't Quim in SD?

Yes he his, unfortunately there are other people too. Otherwise we could be sure he and nokia was behind it ;)

gerbick

2011-07-11 21:21

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1049146)

Yes he his, unfortunately there are other people too. Otherwise we could be sure he and nokia was behind it

Stop making sense. I need folks to speculate wildly.

Dave999

2011-07-11 22:00

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

We need a leak...

JohnLF

2011-07-11 22:02

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave999 (Post 1049165)

We need a leak...

are we back to the portaloo post? ;)

geneven

2011-07-11 22:07

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1049137)

San Diego... isn't Quim in SD?

Yikes. I was born there and return often. I had no idea.

marrat

2011-07-11 22:10

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

At least it seems to be not related to the HP TouchPad...

On Twitter, I told them I'm considering buying a TouchPad, or they give me a reason to reconsider... ;-)

They answered that the wait will be worth it... I don't think HP would stop me from buying their current products... OTOH, what do I know about marketing?

olighak

2011-07-12 03:37

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Todays hint on twitter was a Rubicks cube (and possibly the fact ithe company started in 1974)

SO WHAT COULD THE rubiks cube as a hint mean? Finger/hand gestures, where you can swipe from left/right/top/bottom? Just like you flip the cube on all oour sides to align the colors?

Cassio

2011-07-12 04:03

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by olighak (Post 1049285)

According to wikipedia the Rubik's cube was invented in 1974, what they're trying to hint I have no idea.

Hurrian

2011-07-12 11:03

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassio (Post 1049290)

According to wikipedia the Rubik's cube was invented in 1974, what they're trying to hint I have no idea.

Okay, I'm calling it. You saw it here first.
http://goput.it/zf9.png

jnack95

2011-07-12 11:07

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1049422)

Okay, I'm calling it. You saw it here first.

Saw what? Compiz on meego?

Dave999

2011-07-12 11:27

Re: Do we have a Nokia Internet Tablet in waiting? Tabco

The cube was found in the desert 1974. Tabco have now been able reproduce these cubes so you can create your very own transformer or tablet from any plate.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....8/04/a7416.jpg

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