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mikecomputing

2011-07-21 17:40

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1055222)

i want an n950.

nokia why you do this to me :(.

i'm jelly all you developers.. i can't even given a option to buy it. later.

Do you think Nokia marketing deparment is reading this thread!? If you and others is so damn desperate after n950 why dont you ALL contact the marketing deparment at Nokia!?!? Instead of sitting in a halfdead forum and whine over and over and over again like a bunch of ten year old kids!

mikecomputing

2011-07-21 17:43

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1055235)

ORLY?

N900 - supported at the time and the penultimate step towards the future of nokia. 8 months later, ABANDONED.

N9 - A publicly denounced meeto. 8 seconds later, ABANDONED.

Do you HONESTLY believe that this thing will get support? Really? REALLY? What is wrong with you people?

I better tell you and other what is wrong with you people!? Why is you even sitting here still on a halfdead forum and complains!?

Does it help anyone!? Do you think Elop will come to you and say "Oh I am soo sorry I readed your messages att TMO so I decided to give you all a nice device here is a N950 for you. Now are you happy!?"

ysss	2011-07-21 17:43

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1055609)

..and what are you doing? :)

misterc

2011-07-21 17:44

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

does anyone know if the Ignore List does have a size limitation?

mikecomputing

2011-07-21 17:49

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1055613)

..and what are you doing? :)

I trying to be more positive about a feature of N9 and Meego but going in here reading 99% negative ******** and FUD makes me wonder if people here is working for WP7, Andoid or Iphone.

Or more exactly TMO is a dead OpenSource forum!

Thanks all for killing it!

gerbick

2011-07-21 17:56

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1055617)

If that's you being positive, what's you being negative?

ysss	2011-07-21 17:56

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Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 1055617)

Sure, sunshine :) You always brighten my days with your always-positive posts!

*here's a napkin to wipe that dripping sarcasm*

misterc

2011-07-21 18:19

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by PMaff (Post 1055607)

I just tried to dial blindly with my (very) old phone with keys.
You can only do it if you know where the keys are situated.
Are you sure that this is an issue? :rolleyes:

i don't know about "very old"
on the 1100, the 5 key has two notches; guess what for?!?

Quote:

And btw: all so called smartphones that only have a screen
have this issue: you won't be able to dial blind.;)

my post

Quote:

Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1055447)

[...] the limitation of the N900 as a mobile phone comes from the lack of physical keys to dial (SMS, message, aso.) blindly.[...]

but again, getting annoyed (like vi_ ?) about *****ic idiots picking so unbelievably constructively on posts, tearing them apart to find every single mistake, spelling or otherwise to pick on.
what an unbelievably wonderful forum TMO is, isn't it?
again, had Elop ever known about it, that would have been an outstanding reason to get ride of the platform ASAP :D
or why Intel isn't too excited about getting those folks over onto MeeGo, maybe? :rolleyes:

erendorn

2011-07-21 18:35

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

easy guys, this thread is about unexpected cool features of the n950 ;)

Rauha

2011-07-21 18:43

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1055636)

easy guys, this thread is about unexpected cool features of the n950 ;)

N950 can remotely turn interesting threads into whine threads. Bet you weren't expecting that.

misterc

2011-07-21 19:21

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1055636)

easy guys, this thread is about unexpected cool features of the n950 ;)

just thought that merging it with the N9 vs. N950 thread would allow to compare directly which of those features would also be available to common mortals, but maybe that's not the purpose, is it?

erendorn

2011-07-21 19:41

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

All the cool features given in this thread will apply to the N9, so this is not really a "N9 vs N950" thing. Of course the same thread about the N9 would be nice, but there are not so many non nokians with N9 around.

misterc

2011-07-21 19:56

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1055675)

All the cool features given in this thread will apply to the N9, so this is not really a "N9 vs N950" thing.

never bothered even checking out the N9 vs N950 as i don't consider the N9 a MID (thus won't get one) and i don't have a N950, so, what's the point. :rolleyes:
come to think of it, the only reason i started posting here was because of vi_'s posts... :confused:

Quote:

Of course the same thread about the N9 would be nice, but there are not so many non nokians with N9 around.

well, @ least now they can post that they have a N9, right? :D
and that it definitely doesn't have a hw keyboard :eek:

daperl

2011-07-21 20:07

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The n950 is beyond cool. After I solved an initial call UI problem, I made it my primary phone. That was unexpected. Via bluetooth, transferring n900 contacts and calendar took all of two minutes. If someone doesn't beat me to it, maybe later I'll write a transfer script for the phone and messaging logs. I use static WiFi IP addresses in my house, so email took a little longer while I figured out that I also had to manually configure the WiFi DNS. The usual stuff.

Anyway, it rocks. Now, back to my code...

Oh, and someone was wondering if this was a Jesus phone? Take a closer look:

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Necc	2011-07-21 20:08

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1055435)

What support exactly do you want? any HTC device I have owned (or that people I know have owned) did not have more than 3 major firmware updates or more than 1 year support. Cannot says for devices before, they did not have any at that time.
Even the oh-so-supported iphone get 1 major update after one year, and part of a second one after two.

Cannot tell for you, but most people don't buy devices for what they will do in 2 years time (in that case it's just much cheaper to buy 2 years old devices). If the N9 lacks "must have" features for you at 3 months after launch, DONT BUY IT. If it doesn't, buy it if you like it AS IT IS.

You miss the point. What you are talking about are UPDATES. What we are talking about is BUGFIXES for Maemo5 beta 3 (the most obvious example is "OVI Maps for Maemo").

Just check the support and update history of previous maemo devices (N7xx N8xx) then compare it to N900. Or just check the support of any general NOKIA device.

Once you did it, dare to say that again! We, NOKIA users doesn't expected such a crap support and ABANDON for a *coughcough*high-end*coughcough* device like this!

gerbick

2011-07-22 02:28

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

I truly hope that all the folks with the N950 actually do something with it.

Otherwise, I can enumerate 200+ folks that had an opportunity to do something cool with hardware that we mere mortals don't have access to.

Take the hint. Don't let this be another N900 situation where the devs talked a good game, but didn't really produce much. Just saying...

tzsm98

2011-07-22 02:41

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1055644)

N950 can remotely turn interesting threads into whine threads. Bet you weren't expecting that.

That's a special TMO feature, it is not a bug.

shady

2011-07-24 06:04

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1055818)

your tone, and attitude through all of these threads is not productive. if you want ppl to program dont threaten them or accuse them of being hypocritical.

gerbick

2011-07-24 06:21

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

Take a chill pill. Was actually joking this time.

misterc

2011-07-24 06:30

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1057168)

Take a chill pill. Was actually joking this time.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

man, you forgot the best part of joking... the SMILIES :D
or a nice picture????
or. no, sorry, that's Dan's job, right?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

but yes, in a well moderated forum, only N950 owners would be allowed to make "original posts", non-owner only being allowed (maybe) to ask questions about those features... :confused:

EDIT: which might have made your post more specific, maybe?

gerbick

2011-07-24 06:46

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

I rarely use smilies. Can't figure out what I'm implying, ask. If you assume, that's on you.

misterc

2011-07-24 07:04

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1057178)

I rarely use smilies. Can't figure out what I'm implying, ask. If you assume, that's on you.

i didn't assume anything.
Shady obviously concluded something :|

to your point: if your post is clear, a smiley or two won't harm :rolleyes:

ysss	2011-07-24 07:20

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When I'm meeting with, negotiating against or interviewing a person.. Excessive frequency of and improperly timed smiles usually sends a red flag that the person is uneasy of something. Whether they're unsure of what they're saying, making false promises or hiding something.. Or just uneasy in social situation.

But it's never a good sign.

ossipena

2011-07-24 07:43

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1055818)

Don't worry, I am debugging my qml as we speak.

I was kinda expecting something like this from you after what you cried to developer program thread about stuff being handled really badly.

ossipena

2011-07-24 07:46

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1057185)

face to face?

the issue with internet conversations is that you can not see other peoples reactions thus making the whole conversation million times harder. that is why you have some cute smileys in the internets.

ysss	2011-07-24 07:57

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1057196)

:D :D Well ;) yeah :D :D

jo21	2011-07-24 09:00

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1055447)

like i said before, what will be will be
the old molly may still have more juice in her then, e.g., the crappy barge it has to howl, now. iPotatos may be popular for those who can afford it or the not quite so cheap plans that usually come w/ it, but for those who have to pay for a "smart phone", Symbian devices may turn out to be the only alternative, if Android gets derailed (either by m$ or by Oracle with the Java licensing claims or both).

if you are refering to the portrait feature, honestly... tried it and don't see the point. the limitation of the N900 as a mobile phone comes from the lack of physical keys to dial (SMS, message, aso.) blindly.
fail to see how portrait vs. landscape changes that, alas :(

personally, i'd rather try... the combination top right ;)

u can go know potrait keyboard instantly. instead of waiting it to rotate, which also gets tiresome.
u can get to hold ur phone its potrait which is in my opinion more practical than holding lanscape then changing to make a call.

misterc

2011-07-24 09:54

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1057220)

does the changing orientation still work if you always keep it in landscape mode?

for a phone, i guess portrait is (still) the expected orientation.
PCs seem to have gone landscape all the way, no?
makes the keyboard use, whether physical or virtual easier, i guess.

depends on how one uses the N900, maybe?

just rambling, anyway.
tried it, un-installed it.
i saw from the list of 50+ (little) known features of the N900 that w/ CSSU portrait can be much more pervasive on the N900 too.

guess the improvements made by NOKIA via Harmatan make the whole difference between usability and functionality (for the N950).

Hurrian

2011-07-24 11:57

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

This looks cool.
http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Aegis-kills-device.jpg

Pillum

2011-07-24 12:14

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I'm sad cause I don't see any cool features..only ranting :(

m4r0v3r

2011-07-24 12:35

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

I want someone to try and flash Maemo onto it.

shady

2011-07-24 14:12

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1057168)

Take a chill pill. Was actually joking this time.

i will.

as for cool tricks. keyboard shortcuts are still around.

the fw isnt final, nor will it ever be. but its a solid device so far. the sdk gets updated frequently, and the connectivity tools are top notch. well thought out. save for the assumed commercial "deprecation" of the device. its going to serve to community well by being the zenith for the meego platform for now.

misterc

2011-07-25 04:43

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1057344)

I want someone to try and flash Maemo onto it.

didn't someone already reply that s/he would try this?
thought i saw a post along that line :confused:

gerbick

2011-07-25 06:22

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 1057195)

Don't worry, I am debugging my qml as we speak.

I was kinda expecting something like this from you after what you cried to developer program thread about stuff being handled really badly.

This is good news. Can you speak of your project?

ossipena

2011-07-25 08:28

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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1057671)

This is good news. Can you speak of your project?

I'd rather not at this point, I'd want to be 110% sure that my ideas can be put into practice.

I can tell you that most of you probably don't even have use for the app. I just wondered in April that how can a sport with a lot of wealthy players around the world have less tools (aka pen and paper) to analyze the performance than someone who just goes jogging....

JD2010

2011-07-25 20:18

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1055222)

i want an n950.

nokia why you do this to me :(.

i'm jelly all you developers.. i can't even given a option to buy it. later.

They want us to go away to another smarthphone company by teasing you as much as possible with the N950 not for sale.

bandora

2011-07-25 20:42

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

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Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1054895)

Not jealous, annoyed. Your all treating this thing like it's a god-damned Jesus phone that will end cancer and ascend mankind to the gods.

It's not.

It is a dead, end of line abortion. An inkling of what the team behind the N900 were trying to create before they were buttfvcked and force to design the equally pointless N9.

Don't you get it? The N9 HAS NO FUTURE. The N950 HAS NO FUTURE. There will be no firmware updates and almost certainly no 'appz'. Everything that sucks about the N900 (see lack of support) this thing will embody. N9^N900 suck.

And now the creme de la crap, the steamer on the cake, the most talented of the maemo developers have been given a 'loan' of one so they can port programs that no one can use to a platform that apparently only 250 of exist.

It is not like this thing even runs meego with a tiny possibility of a future, it runs 'harmattan'. An absolute 1 way, council estate cul de sac of an OS. Further more it is not even the same hardware as this N9 so fvck knows what good it will be for 'porting appz'.

While I accepted the follow device would be the final nail in the coffin for the N900, I never guessed the final nail would have the functional equivalent of a dildo in an orphanage.

Thank you.

Everyone loves the things that they can't have. Period.

anim1

2011-07-25 20:54

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will i have to find a computer with windows xp os inorder to hard reset to factory settings? i love my n900 but absolutely hate that about it. i cant reset my phone, wipe it clean or restore it back to factory seting using ovi suite or anything. SO MY BIG QUESTION IS, WILL N950 HAVE THE OPTION OR ABILITY TO FACTORY RESET WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THRU HELL?

egoshin

2011-07-25 20:58

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Originally Posted by anim1 (Post 1058153)

Things fade from my memory slowly but I remember that N9 has option "Factory Reset" when I browsed "Settings".

hotnikkelz

2011-07-30 05:30

Re: Unexpected cool features on n950

Hmm i perused this thread hoping too see some devs spill some beans on the device, but didn't get much.
Speak up devs speak!! :p
we're hungry!

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