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He said he is only getting this one shipment, ever, and that he won't even put it on show because pre orders will probably be bigger than the whole supply. He them shows me the pre order list for this one store and it is this notebook with some 30 to 40 pages covered. This store alone should be able to sell all n9 coming to Brazil even without any advertising. He said at best he will get 300 to 400 units and didn't promise to fullfil pre orders |
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EDIT: Started writing this post before the answers to my previous question came in. It seems like the small availability is more serious than I thought. However all my other points are still valid.
I think I know how to present this thing Firstly I don't believe for a second that FUD Eldar is spreading about 92000 units. Also even if it is true we can't go to nokia and ask for anything quoting this number. So let's assume that the N9 availability will at least match that of the N900 which somewhere here in tmo is quoted to be about a million units. (a quick search shows that a nokia rep said it sold about 100 000 units in the first five weeks) So, the rationale is this. Nokia will sell for sure all the N9's they make. The Nokia N9 even if it is not the official strategy anymore still has a nokia sticker on it, it is very sexy and we can safely assume that a great percentage (maybe even 70% of the buyers) will not even be aware that this phone runs harmattan, they will think of it as an upgrade to their N8 (even some guys came here and were asking how to install a .sis file on the N900 - with the N9 this trend will be stronger as the name suggests a continuity (N8->N9), form factor is sleeker, and advertising is more consumer friendly ("raw computer power" vs "show yourself")). Next big chunk of customers (let's say 20%) will be people who know that it runs harmattan, know that the N900 was strongly supported by the community, and believe the corporate blabber about continuing support etc etc. Those people expect that what is true about the N900 will be true about the N9, we have already many people here assuring that the radio and fmtx chip in the N9 will be hacked to working condition by the community. Then there is the group that just want the latest gadget, or is fed up with every other mobile OS and want to try something new, will research the abilities of the phone to death and they will be ok with what they get out of the box. Whatever remains is happy Nxxx users, tmo members mostly that will get the N9 (if they can) whatever it is, even if it doesn't seem a hell of an upgrade on the N900, just because it's the last of it's kind or they had very nice moments with their Nxxx (me! :) ) Consolidation: Code:
Nokia brand loyalists, unaware of harmattan: ############## 70% Points:
Giving access to community members to the N9 will benefit nokia in the following ways.
I'm sure we can think of more reasons why we should have priority. I urge a native english speaker to rephrase the above to an open letter to Nokia and let us publish it and create some hype over it. Thanks for reading. (I made a lovely typo while typing SeaRay - SeaRat hehe) |
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But, in general, I agree. But Nokia sure is one of the most closed companies when it comes to listening to their customers. Steve Jobs replied, personally, to emails. Others have various channels. Nokia just sits there and do their things and ignore users. It is REALLY hard to get support from Nokia, and REALLY hard to buy a Nokia nowadays. Most operators are throwing Nokias to the basement and forgetting they even exist. E-tailers and retailers mostly sell feature phones. And the VERY small amount of Nokia stores makes it difficult to even buy a Nokia, let alone get support on a broken device! (Like I'm trying for 2 weeks to get my camera glass on my n8 replaced) When my n900 USB broke, Nokia care wouldn't even accept it, not even by paying because it was imported. And they said even if it was Brazillian they would not take it! I would have to mail it directly to Nokia, but Nokia kept telling me I needed to send it to Nokia Care! In the end I had to find someone willing to fix it for me that had nothing to do with Nokia. Nokia's support is just awful. And their PR too, and their marketing, their logistics and mostly everything, including software development (with small exceptions). The only thing they got going is their CAMERA, and HARDWARE departments (and even hardware concerns non cpu and memory related aspects). After writing everything above it is hard to know WHY I owned 6 Nokia SMARTPHONES in the past, why I own a n8 and a n900, and why I want to buy an n9. It is, despite the lack of so many parts on Nokia, they do 3 things right: 1 - Battery consumption; 2 - Camera; 3 - OS capabilities. This is in no particular order. I want an OS that let's me do anything, and a really nice camera, and on top of that I want a device that I can carry for at least 24h before running out of juyce. Even my n8 suffers to get this done, as I use my phones heavilly to browse, maps, photos, email and many other things. The one thing I know, is, if this trend continues of supply issues, I'm not buying an n9, and Nokia will have lost a customer, because no way in hell I will buy a windows phone, because I will lose out on itens 2 and 3 of above. |
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For those living in Aussieland, its available here with bonuses for those who preorder.
http://thenokiablog.com/2011/09/22/australia-nokia-n9/ Usually Australian phones cost alot more more though, so not sure if its worth it. And I didn't read the whole thread so no idea if its been posted.. too lazy, but can you blame me? |
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Around $698 for the 16gig and $878 for 64gigs. The price will differ slightly depending on where and what bonuses they give. |
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It was not on purpose but take it as a statistical error i.e. each of the groups are +/- 5%
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BUT in doing so he will have cut off one of the lives Nokia are clinging too so if he is wrong then down he goes along with Nokia possibly, unless they move quick and get back to reality. He is definietly a kamakaze CEO. |
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Trust me they are giving it some along with the sexy girls !!!!. |
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Nokia is advertising it online, btw. http://www.nokia.no/ also Telenor, who has exclusive rights on the N9 in Norway, are marketing it like crazy. Which would make no sense if they had like 1000 devices only coming in. |
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The preorder price in Dubai for 64GB is : 718$
I know I don't have many posts here, but if some one interested, I can help sending the device. I'm doing that because I want the success for this device that I was waiting longtime. I just want to propose my help to this community that I gained from information and knowledge. by the way, I'm from United Arab Emirates, and the device is still in pre-order for 64GB black. I don't know when it will be available in the stores. |
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Or even, maybe Nokia promised a first run of 10.000 units, but failed to mention it will be the only shipment? I don't know, what I know is that this device will be in shortage, and there is no evidence that the supply will ever meet the demand. |
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Problem with sweden marketing is: there is no device so far... http://www.meegosweden.com/images/stories/n9reklam.jpg |
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Jotoco: theyve gotten a first shipment and are expecting shipment nr2 the around the 20th, in addition several stores are expecting shipments from Telenor all across the country.
I doubt the whole "92000" units thing. Where IS the source on this? Source or it didnt happen. |
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I think its an ENORMOUS stretch. Whats "happening"? The device is being shipped out to stores. Thats whats happening in my world at least. Not sure what its like globally, but over here its heavy marketing and shipments confirmed and unconfirmed all over the place.
Certainly no indication that this is a hard to get phone, just a "its new so its not in stores quite yet, and preorders are high" phase that any highly advertised phone goes through. Same thing was with the SGS2 when I bought that. Nothing out of the ordinary at all. |
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Just sent a message too Elop and asked if its a good idea too buy N9 or if I should wait for WP7.....
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http://ensikosketus.nokia.fi/ Seems like Eldar has again been able to get people believe him for some reason. Production might or might not be enough for first 2 months, but that certain amount of N9's made rumor is bulls1t. EDIT: Quote:
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Well, however the politics is being played at the top; these are some good fundamental indicators (decent market demand, etc) in favor of harmattan and meltemi.... to hopefully keep them on the lifeline somehow.
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And why would it not be? Almost 50% of Nokia phones sold are dumb phones and Android is gaining them there and even more are the unbranded super cheap phones. If Nokia is able to have low end, semi smartphone like platform that even looks cool in the very cheap range, that would not only potentially sell truckloads, but would also give more trust for Nokia bran in places like India and China where iPhone is desirable, but too expensive for many. |
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But still, the guy at the store confirmed. I will see if in this other store it will be the same... if they say the same thing, I might as well believe it, no? |
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Yeah. I bet some TMO users fantasize about how Elop is just a selfish exec and he's just waiting for the right time to spot Ballmer with his pants down to screw his sweaty *** from behind.
Figuratively speaking, of course. @Jotoco: perhaps the guy at the store was Eldar('s follower). |
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Already updated in the "N9 [Shipping]: It's finally here [for some]" thread, but it looks like Nokia Mexico has informed my connection that they may not offer any warranty help/assistance to any USA/Canada customers for N9's purchased in Mexico.
It's not confirmed official, but it's close enough to official. I will follow up shortly. My problem with this is that Nokia were to set up a direct community purchase program, this wouldn't be an issue. Give us one global place to send our phones just in case we need help/assistance/warranty work. I'm sure you'd see that folks would send it on in with us paying for the shipment to the service center(s). So we know that Peter and Quim might not be the people to ask to get this done, but whom do we ask to get this started? Or at least to get some traction? I need a plan B for not only myself, but for quite a few other folks. |
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EDIT: Found it. He mentioned it very briefly in that old video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxc4I...ailpage#t=108s At least it confirms it's real :) |
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(yes I am serious and I know its not his board at the end, but would be intresting to see if he willing to answer whom? |
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Maybe we could arrange several community members to arrange purchases of couple/few devices in countries were N9 is availeable. This way packaging, mailing, finding enough devices, etc would at tolerable level and there would be less money involved.
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Figuratively speaking, of course. Quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6oidCTUw4s (21 minutes total lenght. It's in there somewhere). |
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http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/09/29/m...n-qt-swipe-ui/ Around 1:40. EDIT: nvm seems like you guys found it already. |
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Which makes sense if Meltemi is the 'new' Linux OS; I remember thinking at the time, "Why would someone who came from a maemo background want to work on the Windows Phone?", which is what the Register article intimated. |
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Seriously, if you guys have issues with you N9s and cant get it fixed in your country because you bought it somewhere else and had it sent to you, Im sure its possible to send it to for instance me, and have that person hand it in to a repair store for you, get it back, and send it back to you.
Im sure that wouldnt be a problem for nokia. |
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seriuosly if meltemi is old maemo we really was screwed by Elop :) hell he has made us angry for no reason and WP could be just a smoking gun what will come later...
I really hope this info is true. And swipeUI really was made for Meltimi and not WP. infact this MUST be the most logical step. I mean QT/Swipe on S40. sounds sooo wrong... I mean lowend 2012 is what hiend is today. but at the same time NW2011 is all about WP so I do not expect ANYThING related to Meltemi until NW 2012 and if N9 fails thiks may very well change again... |
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