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HtheB 2011-11-18 23:29
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
This is the output whenever I try to apt-get install xsltproc
http://pastebin.com/gmPDJaYn

Anyone know what's wrong?

Zoxir 2011-11-18 23:51
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
I installed that with no problem have you installed everything else.

Meanwhile my issues get weider and weirder after installing python-dbus it's not asking for dbus.glib any more but when I type

Code:
python telepathy-butterfly install
in returnes nothing LOL

HtheB 2011-11-19 00:04
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1125736)
I installed that with no problem have you installed everything else.
Yes, all other depencies installed just fine.
But it's the last depency that breaks everything

billranton 2011-11-19 06:29
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1125729)
But now I have an issue with telepathy-butterfly it complains about not finding dbus.glib
Install python-dbus. I'll add it to the dependencies.

billranton 2011-11-19 08:12
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1125732)
This is the output whenever I try to apt-get install xsltproc
http://pastebin.com/gmPDJaYn

Anyone know what's wrong?
It looks to me like one of the dependencies of xsltproc is conflicting with your top harmattan metapackage. It might be something that the repo maintainers can help with. Have a look at apt-cache show mp-harmattan-<whatever that said>. Mine different, because my phone's from a different region.
Zoxir - that package needs ./configure then make then make install. It was only papyon that had the special build script. Each one is different, need to look at each README throughly.

The best solution would be if these packages were turned into proper debs and put in a repository, but that requires tools and accounts that I don't have (and probably an n950 :D )

HtheB 2011-11-19 09:11
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1125807)
It looks to me like one of the dependencies of xsltproc is conflicting with your top harmattan metapackage. It might be something that the repo maintainers can help with. Have a look at apt-cache show mp-harmattan-<whatever that said>. Mine different, because my phone's from a different region.
Zoxir - that package needs ./configure then make then make install. It was only papyon that had the special build script. Each one is different, need to look at each README throughly.

The best solution would be if these packages were turned into proper debs and put in a repository, but that requires tools and accounts that I don't have (and probably an n950 :D )
ok try this:
http://pastebin.com/H2R4TfA5

What does it says on your terminal???
Is there someway I can find out why it acts like that?

billranton 2011-11-19 09:46
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Ok, I meant an n950 for me. Very jealous that you've got one :)

Here's my apt-cache show on my mp-harmattan metapackage:
http://pastebin.com/xmZkNVXR

I think there's a difference between yours and mine, which pins a version more restrictively and conflicts with the stuff coming in for xsltproc, and apt has no choice but to remove your metapackage, marking every package in your system as 'autoremovable'. If you can compare my package structure to yours and find the difference, we can ask the repo maintainers to fix it. I don't see why the different regional metapackages should be different at this level.

I spoke with some guys earlier this week about a missing depencency in python-crypto, and they were really nice about it.

One other thing, your n9 is PR1.1 right? That might do it.

Zoxir 2011-11-19 12:50
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1125807)
Zoxir - that package needs ./configure then make then make install. It was only papyon that had the special build script. Each one is different, need to look at each README throughly.

The best solution would be if these packages were turned into proper debs and put in a repository, but that requires tools and accounts that I don't have (and probably an n950 :D )
Man I figured it needed ./configure but there was no configure file in the vesrion I got from git so I downloaded the last tar. which compiles fine I added the account but cannot log in. I get a network error :(

EDIT Btw README files were not so useful :P

HtheB 2011-11-19 14:22
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1125829)
One other thing, your n9 is PR1.1 right? That might do it.
1.1 over here indeed.
Just a question...
Did you already compiled the needed depencies (with make)?
Why not share those? :D

billranton 2011-11-19 14:24
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
I was hoping someone could find a more recent release of that. If you get it from git then you need to run something called autoconf to generate the configure script. I tried to install autoconf on my n9 but it wanted to uninstall absolutely everything. You can run it somewhere else though then copy over. Later on I'll tar up what I did for you, though I'm not sure I'm supposed to distribute it.

billranton 2011-11-19 14:28
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1125921)
1.1 over here indeed.
Just a question...
Did you already compiled the needed depencies (with make)?
Why not share those? :D
Good point. I'll look into it. Wouldn't I have to make a .deb though? Maybe make can do a distributable.

HtheB 2011-11-19 16:03
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1125922)
I was hoping someone could find a more recent release of that. If you get it from git then you need to run something called autoconf to generate the configure script. I tried to install autoconf on my n9 but it wanted to uninstall absolutely everything. You can run it somewhere else though then copy over. Later on I'll tar up what I did for you, though I'm not sure I'm supposed to distribute it.
I'll be waiting for it!
You may distribute it, it's not a commercial package.

Zoxir 2011-11-19 16:39
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1125922)
I was hoping someone could find a more recent release of that. If you get it from git then you need to run something called autoconf to generate the configure script. I tried to install autoconf on my n9 but it wanted to uninstall absolutely everything. You can run it somewhere else though then copy over. Later on I'll tar up what I did for you, though I'm not sure I'm supposed to distribute it.
Ok that did it I run autoconf.sh on my arch and then transered it on the N9 then I configured make and make install and now I am online LIKE A BOSS thanks a mill bro

HtheB 2011-11-22 16:54
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1125924)
Good point. I'll look into it. Wouldn't I have to make a .deb though? Maybe make can do a distributable.
Any progress?

billranton 2011-11-22 20:18
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Haven't had chance to try much yet - only managed to find out than checkinstall wants to remove half the phone too. Will get round to it soon...

billranton 2011-11-22 22:30
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing here.

telepathy-butterfly 0.5.15+git20111122 armel:
http://www.mediafire.com/?swj7szwbswq4o34

dpkg -i seemed to install just fine.

HtheB 2011-11-22 22:44
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1127586)
Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm doing here.

telepathy-butterfly 0.5.15+git20111122 armel:
http://www.mediafire.com/?swj7szwbswq4o34

dpkg -i seemed to install just fine.
So this is everything we need?! :eek:

After this, it's just adding the account from the terminal, right?

Edit:
Tried, but it gave a network error.... (Doesn't work :( )

SteveYoungs 2011-11-23 00:22
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1127593)
So this is everything we need?! :eek:

After this, it's just adding the account from the terminal, right?

Edit:
Tried, but it gave a network error.... (Doesn't work :( )
I use telepathy-butterfly for MSN on my desktop (current git HEAD) and I've not been able to log in for days now.

I'm guessing, but I think that perhaps there has been a change to the MSN chat protocol and the telepathy boys 'n' girls haven't synched up their code to it yet.

HtheB 2011-11-23 00:29
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveYoungs (Post 1127611)
I use telepathy-butterfly for MSN on my desktop (current git HEAD) and I've not been able to log in for days now.

I'm guessing, but I think that perhaps there has been a change to the MSN chat protocol and the telepathy boys 'n' girls haven't synched up their code to it yet.
Since when?
a couple days ago Zoxir could login... (see 6 posts above)

SteveYoungs 2011-11-23 01:32
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1125539)
Code:
deb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ harmattan/sdk free non-free
Just a clarification, mate, because I don't know anything about Debian packaging... is there supposed to be whitespace there between ".com/" and "harmattan/sdk"?

Thanks!

SteveYoungs 2011-11-23 01:37
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1127612)
Since when?
"for days now" :)

I forgot to mention that the version of telepathy-butterfly I have was working previously which is why I suspect a change or fault at their end (MSN)

billranton 2011-11-23 12:37
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1127593)
So this is everything we need?! :eek:

After this, it's just adding the account from the terminal, right?

Edit:
Tried, but it gave a network error.... (Doesn't work :( )
No - also needs the more recent version of python-telepathy than is in the dev repo and the papyon package. I made the butterfly deb for you because that's the one that needed xsltproc that you were having trouble with.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveYoungs (Post 1127611)
I use telepathy-butterfly for MSN on my desktop (current git HEAD) and I've not been able to log in for days now.

I'm guessing, but I think that perhaps there has been a change to the MSN chat protocol and the telepathy boys 'n' girls haven't synched up their code to it yet.
I am logged in right now, but i'm using the HEAD of papyon (python-papyon package on ubuntu). That's where the protocol is implemented: butterfly's just a wrapper I think. The papyon source package I linked to earlier has a nice test script that will connect to msn and try to download an avatar from a contact. If that works then you should be able to log in.

On the desktop I use msn-pecan. Used than on my n900 too. I find it's more up-to-date and a bit quicker to log in than the others. I hope Felipe will get around to porting it to harmattan soon...

HtheB 2011-11-23 14:09
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1127816)
No - also needs the more recent version of python-telepathy than is in the dev repo
I couldn't install this package.

Do you know what command I should do?
tried everything:
Make
Make install
./configure

non of them worked. (i read the README and the INSTALL files, but... that didn't help me a lot...)

billranton 2011-11-23 14:53
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1127851)
I couldn't install this package.

Do you know what command I should do?
tried everything:
Make
Make install
./configure

non of them worked. (i read the README and the INSTALL files, but... that didn't help me a lot...)
The proper order is:
Code:
tar -zxf telepathy-python-0.15.19.tar.gz
cd telepathy-python-0.15.19.tar.gz
./configure
make
make install
you need all of the other dependencies installed before you do that, so run this before:

Code:
apt-get install make python-gobject python-openssl python-gst0.10 python-farsight python-crypto python-dbus

HtheB 2011-11-23 15:53
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by billranton (Post 1127874)
The proper order is:
Code:
tar -zxf telepathy-python-0.15.19.tar.gz
cd telepathy-python-0.15.19.tar.gz
./configure
make
make install
you need all of the other dependencies installed before you do that, so run this before:

Code:
apt-get install make python-gobject python-openssl python-gst0.10 python-farsight python-crypto python-dbus
Seems like I had to extract the file outside of the "MyDocs".
After that, I had to chmod 777 the configure file.

But now... it asks me for the xsltproc...

Code:
configure: error: xsltproc (from the libxslt source package) is required
So it won't continue the installation

Edit:
Ok.... this is weird :confused:
I tried to apt-get install xsltproc again and now it doesn't remove anything at all.... :/

ok, trying again ./configure now to see what happens

Edit2:
After compiling and reinstalling the butterfly package, and readding it with mc-tool, I finally got it working!

Finally! :D

Thanks a million
I'll make a user friendly tutorial on the first post

Edit3:
Updated first post

billranton 2011-11-23 20:17
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
That's a lovely tutorial. If I get chance I'll try to make debs of the other two. I think I have to make a better job of them than I have so far to get them in any kind of repository though. Wonder where Jonny Lamb's got to...

Hariainm 2011-11-24 17:51
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
3 Attachment(s)
ok, about the OP tutorial, i got stuck in "python setup.py". It says "error: no commands supplied". So what commands i need to input?

PD: also, in the tuto, i can't mkdir /home/user/msn following your post. May be because of being root. I exit the terminal and opened again, try mkdir as user and voila! :D

PD2: IT WORKS! i skip python setup.py build and it works also, don't know what build do, but it works. and seems chmod and rm refuse to work maybe because of root.

Anyone knows how to add different status options (busy, invisible, etc)?
Why it doesn't show the protocol name? (see here)
ACCOUNTS
Attachment 23663
CONVERSATIONS
Attachment 23664
NOTIFICATION BAR
Attachment 23665

HtheB 2011-11-24 19:28
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1128531)
ok, about the OP tutorial, i got stuck in "python setup.py". It says "error: no commands supplied". So what commands i need to input?

PD: also, in the tuto, i can't mkdir /home/user/msn following your post. May be because of being root. I exit the terminal and opened again, try mkdir as user and voila! :D
Sorry, that should be:
python setup.py install

Updated the first post

Makeclick 2011-11-25 22:36
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
Sooooooooo nice!!!!

And now... if someone godlike super guy can make the UI for it and releases it to Ovistore or packing it to .deb???

PhatApteryx 2011-11-26 01:21
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
must be just me but it all started to fall apart for me around here..."python setup.py build" - will persist

HtheB 2011-11-26 03:53
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by PhatApteryx (Post 1129066)
must be just me but it all started to fall apart for me around here..."python setup.py build" - will persist
You can just skip that part.

HtheB 2011-11-26 03:54
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 1128531)
Anyone knows how to add different status options (busy, invisible, etc)?
Why it doesn't show the protocol name? (see here)
ACCOUNTS
Attachment 23663
CONVERSATIONS
Attachment 23664
NOTIFICATION BAR
Attachment 23665
It's a known problem :p Since it's some workaround

billranton 2011-11-26 08:06
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
Looking at the existing service xmls, it might not be too hard to create one that'll give all the msn stuff titles and allow different statuses. The hard bit will be the registration UI.

Makeclick 2011-11-26 18:07
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
Hey people!!! Try out with normal web browser - messenger.live.com .
It's working very nice :O! Do not forget to set "[X] Keep me logged in".

Makeclick 2011-11-26 18:41
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
Fu***... It will disconnect messenger if your screen is locked too long time :/. N9 do not share internet to the browser when it is locked? God damned!

HtheB 2011-11-26 20:11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Makeclick
Fu***... It will disconnect messenger if your screen is locked too long time :/. N9 do not share internet to the browser when it is locked? God damned!
You can change that from the connection settings on the settings.

Makeclick 2011-11-26 22:42
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1129341)
You can change that from the connection settings on the settings.
Yes.. all settings are always on and battery saving is off.. Your phone not disconnect? :O

Sllik 2011-11-28 15:40
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoxir (Post 1125575)
Yeap that did it but I have another question when trying to install telepathy-python I can not run the ./configure command it says permission denied.
I have this issue as well, and I can't quite follow what you did to fix it. Anyone else got an idea on how I can gain permission to ./configure ?

billranton 2011-11-28 16:02
Re: Pidgin (or MSN) on the N9/n950?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sllik (Post 1130112)
I have this issue as well, and I can't quite follow what you did to fix it. Anyone else got an idea on how I can gain permission to ./configure ?
Don't do anything in MyDocs: it's a FAT partition and forgets all permissions. When I did all of the building etc I did it as root in root's home directory.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 1129085)
It's a known problem :p Since it's some workaround
I've just managed to get around this. I made two files:

/usr/share/accounts/providers/msn.provider
/usr/share/accounts/services/msn.service

by copying the skype ones and changing the fields (harmattan has two different msn icons already!). Then I had to install sqlite3 and add the account in ~/.accounts/accounts.db. I managed to get jabber displaying properly too, but there's no bundled icons for that, so I'll have to make one later.

If I get time later i'll write it all up so others can try.

mikecomputing 2011-11-28 18:16
Re: MSN on the N9/N950!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1129310)
Fu***... It will disconnect messenger if your screen is locked too long time :/. N9 do not share internet to the browser when it is locked? God damned!
Often people whine about battery drain too fast now you do another way around.....


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