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ivgalvez 2012-01-11 09:52
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Have anyone seen this announcement from Intel?

With complete open source drivers for Intel SoC it should be easier to port Nemo Mobile to this kind of phones. I don't really need Nemo on my N900 but in any other device for the time my beloved device dies.

shmerl 2012-01-11 16:26
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Sounds good (if drivers and specs will really be open). The more devices - the merrier.

Estel 2012-01-11 17:03
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Intel
Intel claimed that its single core, two-thread 1.6 GHz "Medfield" Atom processors offered better performance and lower power consumption than unspecified ARM processors in unspecified popular Android phones.
:rolleyes: how cute. I think they need to learn *much* about meritocratic approach, even when it comes to announcing they own projects. BTW, my Sharp calculator got better performance than unspecified Intel CPU bundled in unspecified motherboard, released on unspecified year of unspecified millennium.

/Estel

m4r0v3r 2012-01-12 12:47
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Estel (Post 1148936)
:rolleyes: how cute. I think they need to learn *much* about meritocratic approach, even when it comes to announcing they own projects. BTW, my Sharp calculator got better performance than unspecified Intel CPU bundled in unspecified motherboard, released on unspecified year of unspecified millennium.

/Estel
would be great if it was true, i'd buy it over an N9 any day, as long as drivers and bootloader were open.

m4r0v3r 2012-01-12 12:54
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
after some digging up

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5365/i...or-smartphones

i guess the power consumption isnt too bad especially compared to the nexus and GS II but it kind of shows, that for the high stress processor tasks it uses a lot of power, like 720p playback or anything really thats going to put the processor at 100% maybe cause the gpu isn't involved?

jalyst 2012-01-12 13:06
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by m4r0v3r (Post 1149462)
Yeah linked to that here...
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...34#post1149034
For the love of God Nokia why!? .... Why!?! :(

Quote:
i guess the power consumption isnt too bad especially compared to the nexus and GS II but it kind of shows, that for the high stress processor tasks it uses a lot of power, like 720p playback or anything really thats going to put the processor at 100% maybe cause the gpu isn't involved?
That's at least partly explained in the article IIRC

m4r0v3r 2012-01-12 13:44
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
if they stuck with mother****ing Meego life would of been some much better, I mean imagine that processor running Meego in that slim sexy body, with 720p main profile running perfectly and am pretty damn sure that processor is fast enough for anything they need. then you'd have us just randomly installing any linux flavour easily and any linux apps if intel keep things open.

but i guess thats in a perfect world

ayazpak 2012-01-12 22:16
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Another latest image arrived http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Ne...-n900-testing/

ayazpak 2012-01-19 19:30
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Today Nemo relased new testing image with some bug fixes http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Ne...-n900-testing/

Flynx 2012-01-19 20:09
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayazpak (Post 1152945)
Today Nemo relased new testing image with some bug fixes http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Ne...-n900-testing/
tried flashing to internal memory using the same method as meego, but it didn't boot. should i do something differently for nemo? the installation instructions were only for sdcard.

ayazpak 2012-01-19 20:57
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flynx (Post 1152961)
tried flashing to internal memory using the same method as meego, but it didn't boot. should i do something differently for nemo? the installation instructions were only for sdcard.
The best way to install it on SD card with Uboot

shmerl 2012-01-19 23:02
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Alas, no SD cards for N9(50).

ioncelmare 2012-01-19 23:07
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
it become usable for n900?

Alfred 2012-01-19 23:22
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ioncelmare (Post 1153022)
it become usable for n900?
if you mean calling and sending sms then yes

ayazpak 2012-01-27 07:29
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
New Mer based "Nemo Image" available for N900/N9 and N950, on N900 I am checking, boot time is very fast, Now we can install applications/packages from Package Manager. Some important bugs fixed http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Ne...-armv7hl-n900/

AlMehdi 2012-01-27 08:13
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayazpak (Post 1156402)
New Mer based "Nemo Image" available for N900/N9 and N950, on N900 I am checking, boot time is very fast, Now we can install applications/packages from Package Manager. Some important bugs fixed http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Ne...-armv7hl-n900/
How do i go about to install this? Like this http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/EMMC ?

edit: yep, it worked ;)

ivgalvez 2012-01-27 09:53
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Where can we see the list of available applications without installing Nemo?

gregoranderson 2012-01-27 10:10
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ayazpak (Post 1152945)
Today Nemo relased new testing image with some bug fixes http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Ne...-n900-testing/
The Nemo gang continue to rock. Awesome work guys.

B-RUNO 2012-01-29 15:03
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Latest build pretty stable running smooth Virtual Keyboard is back, Package Installer Working!

Now just a noob question how can I install a FileManager on Nemo?!

Thanks

buchanmilne 2012-01-30 13:50
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
With two different Micro SD cards, I get the following error when booting nemo:

Code:
twl4030_wdt twl_4030_wdt: Failed to register misc device
Power Management for TI OMAP3.
drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (rtc0)
mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising the SD card
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(179,1)
And when I boot back into Maemo, the time has been reset :-(.

I have in the past booted Meego images with the same cards on the same device, with no problems.

I validated the md5 sum.

On inserting the SD card into a machine running linux, the filesystems on the card automount without problems, and the contents looks valid.

B-RUNO 2012-01-30 14:38
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buchanmilne (Post 1157870)
With two different Micro SD cards, I get the following error when booting nemo:

Code:
twl4030_wdt twl_4030_wdt: Failed to register misc device
Power Management for TI OMAP3.
drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device (rtc0)
mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising the SD card
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(179,1)
And when I boot back into Maemo, the time has been reset :-(.

I have in the past booted Meego images with the same cards on the same device, with no problems.

I validated the md5 sum.

On inserting the SD card into a machine running linux, the filesystems on the card automount without problems, and the contents looks valid.
I was having the same problem the cause was my MicroSd adapter is not working properly, what i did was put my micro sd on my n900 connected via usb on Mass Storage mode then write the image on the memory card.
I did all via windows 7 and was pretty strait forward:)

ayazpak 2012-02-02 19:52
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
New weekly nemo mobile release is available for N900, N950 & x86 with some bug fixes, mobile browser heliumreborn http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Ne...2-02.1/images/

Netweaver 2012-02-02 21:32
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by B-RUNO (Post 1157905)
I was having the same problem the cause was my MicroSd adapter is not working properly, what i did was put my micro sd on my n900 connected via usb on Mass Storage mode then write the image on the memory card.
I did all via windows 7 and was pretty strait forward:)
Lots of people are having the same issue now when using the latest Pali u-boot mechanism. I just tried your 'alternative' image transfer method (with todays image) and unfortunately it gives me exactly the same result : thousands of mmcblk1 -110 errors.

So I don't think this is a solution for everyone. Would be strange anyway to have so many people with bad SD card readers. :D

Feel free to look also in the latest u-boot thread, as of page 10 we're trying to find out who/what is impacted and what might be the solution. http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=81613&page=10

Latest thinking is some missing/not-reverted patches in the Nemo N900 Adaptation kernel. I've raised a bug for this on the Nemo Bugzilla. To be continued.

D@vIcHoJD 2012-02-02 23:42
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
One question I have on my microsd easy debian image, there is no inconvenience in having the 2 images to run the os, it is posible?:confused: And works with kp49 and cssu??:confused:

Some thread how to install and run the operating system from the microsd, or do it from the mmc (32GB) without any problems for maemo 5.:D

ironm8 2012-02-03 20:59
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Can someone upload a vid to youtube with the latest release?
I am very curious about it's current state

D@vIcHoJD 2012-02-03 22:32
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by D@vIcHoJD (Post 1159723)
One question I have on my microsd easy debian image, there is no inconvenience in having the 2 images to run the os, it is posible?:confused: And works with kp49 and cssu??:confused:

Some thread how to install and run the operating system from the microsd, or do it from the mmc (32GB) without any problems for maemo 5.:D
Someone can confirm this please:cool:

TransTech 2012-02-04 09:28
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Can anyone tell me is there a file-manager in the latest build... or how can I download one? or is it available?

p.s. Filebox for n9 doesnt work.

TransTech 2012-02-04 09:30
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ironm8 (Post 1160128)
Can someone upload a vid to youtube with the latest release?
I am very curious about it's current state
me 2

10chars

nisheet 2012-02-06 03:25
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
i tried to install NEMO on my mmc with following all instructions on NEMO wiki and the data gets copied easyly on my UBUNTU11.10 but after that every time my mmc gets currupted error and i m not able to use NEMO plzzzz some one give me a good solution to this problem...


thanxxxxxxxx in advance...

Netweaver 2012-02-06 09:01
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
can u give details on the exact error messages and the brand/size/class of the card ?
There is investigation going on in the root cause.
But most (if not all) of these issues are with the Pali version of uboot. Not with the 'official' uboot+pr13 version from the repos and not with some older, much more limited versions.
It's a Nemo kernel issue combined with (probably) slightly higher access/init timings in some newer class 6 and class 10 cards.

Also you say the card is corrupted after trying to boot with it again. What is 'corrupt' to you ?

TransTech 2012-02-06 09:23
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nisheet (Post 1161077)
i tried to install NEMO on my mmc with following all instructions on NEMO wiki and the data gets copied easyly on my UBUNTU11.10 but after that every time my mmc gets currupted error and i m not able to use NEMO plzzzz some one give me a good solution to this problem...


thanxxxxxxxx in advance...
I got the same error for the first time i tried to installed, so I formatted the card with SDFormatter and tried once again, it succeeded... :) (p.s. On Win7 with uboot+pr13 version in devel repos )

buchanmilne 2012-02-07 09:37
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Netweaver (Post 1161136)
can u give details on the exact error messages and the brand/size/class of the card ?
There is investigation going on in the root cause.
But most (if not all) of these issues are with the Pali version of uboot. Not with the 'official' uboot+pr13 version from the repos and not with some older, much more limited versions.
It's a Nemo kernel issue combined with (probably) slightly higher access/init timings in some newer class 6 and class 10 cards.

Also you say the card is corrupted after trying to boot with it again. What is 'corrupt' to you ?
My post is about a 'Official u-boot' (the one from Meego 1.1 days) on CSSU-testing, on 3 different cards, one 4GB class 4 (which has run about 3 or 4 different Meego images without problem) and 2 brand-new cards, 1 16 GB class 4 and 1 8GB Class 10.

I am not running any funny stuff (I had KP *long* *long* ago for mobile-hotspot, but removed it with PR1.3 / u-boot, Meego 1.1 as I don't need hotspot feature now), so currently no KP, no new u-boot, no battery or speed patch of any kind. The only potentially funny stuff is CSSU-testing, but that still means stock kernel etc.

I will try and test with an older Meego image on all of these cards today.

mankir 2012-02-08 15:02
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Qole ported his Easy Debian to Harmattan, as described in this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82114
It's called HarmChom and should allow to run apps from other distros in a chroot environment. I was able to open firefox10 from oneiric on the n900, it's a bit unstable but it should be generally possible to use up2date debapps on top of nemo on the n900!
Update: Audacity1.3.13-beta is recording and playing out of the box

blackjack4it 2012-02-08 15:10
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Can some dev try again in asking Nokia the GPS driver source code? Now they are with Microsoft, I hope that they won't care anymore about their "closed source components" and they'll be more kind with us

EDIT: With "source code" I mean the missing part that allow us to communicate with the GPS chip through the modem..If I am not wrong Nemo lack of GPS too because of this..they could unlock two projects (Nemo and Nitdroid) with a piece of code
Last edited by blackjack4it; 01-24-2012 at 12:13 PM.

Stskeeps 2012-02-08 15:25
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackjack4it (Post 1162177)
Can some dev try again in asking Nokia the GPS driver source code? Now they are with Microsoft, I hope that they won't care anymore about their "closed source components" and they'll be more kind with us

EDIT: With "source code" I mean the missing part that allow us to communicate with the GPS chip through the modem..If I am not wrong Nemo lack of GPS too because of this..they could unlock two projects (Nemo and Nitdroid) with a piece of code
Last edited by blackjack4it; 01-24-2012 at 12:13 PM.
We have a plugin that qt mobility builds against, which has the N900 location stack. It's working but not rewired in after Mer rebase of the UI/hardware adaptation. Closed source, but redistributable

blackjack4it 2012-02-08 15:39
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1162188)
We have a plugin that qt mobility builds against, which has the N900 location stack. It's working but not rewired in after Mer rebase of the UI/hardware adaptation. Closed source, but redistributable
Is possible to port that feature in Nitdroid too?

Stskeeps 2012-02-08 15:40
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackjack4it (Post 1162197)
Is possible to port that feature in Nitdroid too?
Not really. It's a pretty full framework with dbus needed, closed binaries, etc.

blackjack4it 2012-02-08 15:47
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Ok, thanks for answering :( last favour, could you please give me the link of the source code of that plugin? thank you

Stskeeps 2012-02-08 16:42
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackjack4it (Post 1162201)
Ok, thanks for answering :( last favour, could you please give me the link of the source code of that plugin? thank you
"Closed source" usually implies there's no source.

Dhicky 2012-02-09 07:31
Re: Nemo mobile discussions
 
can maemo, tripleboot with nitdroid and mer.. ??


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