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demolition 2011-11-28 00:27
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by visN900 (Post 1129800)
guys my version is 21.2011.38-1maemo1.. there is not "T" or "S".. what version am i using.. sorry if its already answered
Six dots (application menu) > Settings > About CSSU

Community SSU installed
version: 21.2011.38-1maemo1
flavor: Testing

... see?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1129688)
It should be possible to "drift" from testing to stable just like one would do in Debian.
If bugs are corrected in the current testing version, without any new features being added, will the sub-version number be altered? How does one preserve main version and allow increments in sub-version?

s4br0s0 2011-11-28 00:52
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Hi again, i see on the Community SSU/Changelog (Testing) that HAM have potrait view, and in the Community SSU/ChangelogStable say in HAM NONE.

I'm asking because mine stay at landscape view, is this normal?

Greetings.

merlin1991 2011-11-28 01:02
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
HAM in stable onle goes to portrait if you have the /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate set to true

s4br0s0 2011-11-28 01:08
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin1991 (Post 1129820)
HAM in stable onle goes to portrait if you have the /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate set to true
I thought that will be like PDF and calculator that do it (potrait) "by default".

So my options are leafpad/etc and change to true (transitions.ini, right)? Another option?

Thanks.

Greetings.

merlin1991 2011-11-28 01:30
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
no other option, but it's not leafpad but a gconf key, see http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/...hildon-desktop

s4br0s0 2011-11-28 01:44
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin1991 (Post 1129824)
no other option, but it's not leafpad but a gconf key, see http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/...hildon-desktop
Saw it but don't understand it, i mean, open xterminal and put that?

By the way, i have status-area-orientationlock-applet intalled, and the only thing doesn't "change" was Task Switcher, well rotate to potrait but the apps got the X up, it should be on right side, right?.

Like this:


Desktop goes potrait and i rearrange my widgets with status-area-orientationlock-applet.

Greetings.

merlin1991 2011-11-28 01:58
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
okay with the status area lock applet you enabled that specific key (the lock applet sets/unsets that key and another one)

yes you would have had to put it into xterm otherwise

and no that task switcher is actually right portrait task switcher looks like that

s4br0s0 2011-11-28 02:05
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin1991 (Post 1129828)
okay with the status area lock applet you enabled that specific key (the lock applet sets/unsets that key and another one)

yes you would have had to put it into xterm otherwise

and no that task switcher is actually right portrait task switcher looks like that
Ok i will, wierd thing i check the gconf settings (filebox) and say:

entry name="ui_can_rotate".........type="bool" value="true".

So is just like it needs, but anyway, i'm going to do it like Community SSU/FeaturesStable says., hoping the HAM goes potrait.

Thanks for your time.

Greetings.

Edit: Done, HAM goes potrait now, thanks a lot.

Pencil 2011-11-28 05:05
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
I would like to update to cssu stable and I have installed Apv. power monitor. Is there a conflict between the two? Should I uninstalled APM before update to cssu stable? Thx. in adv.

pious_momin 2011-11-28 09:18
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by fw190 (Post 1129680)
Just did a clean install on my friends N900. First updated to PR 1.3.1 and then to CSSU stable. Had some problems with Advanced power monitor but reinstall helped. Did the whole proces as in the wiki but one thing came out during this proces. Faster Aplicaiton Manager isn't that good. While I wanted to uninstall Advanced power monitor it wanted to uninstall severall other apps as oppposite to HAM which did it properly. HAM is slow bud does things as it should.
Did you download PR 1.3.1 Image from Navifirm? If so Is it Genuine or Stable to Flash with Navifirm Image?

sulu 2011-11-28 09:52
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by demolition (Post 1129809)
If bugs are corrected in the current testing version, without any new features being added, will the sub-version number be altered?
I don't know since I'm no CSSU developer.But some version number has to be altered to ship updates.

Quote:
Originally Posted by demolition (Post 1129809)
How does one preserve main version and allow increments in sub-version?
In Debian one modifies the version number of a package by editing the control file. Whatever tool is used in Maemo for package building eventually it will do the same.

don_falcone 2011-11-28 10:25
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by visN900 (Post 1129800)
guys my version is 21.2011.38-1maemo1.. there is not "T" or "S".. what version am i using.. sorry if its already answered
Check which repository ("community-*") is given in HAM.

jacktanner 2011-11-28 15:15
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Congrats to all on the release of the stable CSSU. It took a ton of hard work - development, packaging, community coordination, coordination with Nokia, etc. Kudos!

Looking at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable , I'm a bit baffled. These are all neat GUI tweaks, sure. But for those who don't really care about, say, vertical apps - does the current version of the CSSU bring any benefits over stock maemo?

merlin1991 2011-11-28 15:31
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacktanner (Post 1130089)
Looking at http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable , I'm a bit baffled. These are all neat GUI tweaks, sure. But for those who don't really care about, say, vertical apps - does the current version of the CSSU bring any benefits over stock maemo?
It fixes a 100% cpu hildon-desktop bug
a x-term bug where enter didn't behave
a bug where a desktop shortcut would open 2 browser windows
a bug in apt where apt would choke on packages in a non user/* seciton
bugs in PDF Reader:
PDF Reader doesn't support internal document hyperlinks
PDF Reader page up should go to Bottom of Previous Page (instead of Top)
PDF Reader doesn't use optimal screen width in fit width mode

and the list goes on

The features page on the wiki is about stuff you can configure to your liking, but is in no way a complete list of features of the cssu.

sulu 2011-11-28 15:54
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin1991 (Post 1130102)
a x-term bug where enter didn't behave
I guess you refer to this libvte4 bug: [1]
Unfortunately that fix seems to bring another bug because of other applications expecting the erratic libvte4 behavior: [2]
So it seems like even when using the stable CSSU one should weigh the pros and cons that come with the changes.

Therefore:
Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin1991 (Post 1130102)
The features page on the wiki is about stuff you can configure to your liking, but is in no way a complete list of features of the cssu.
Does such a complete list exist?

[1] https://bugs.maemo.org/6009
[2] http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79563&page=2 (posts #13 & #16 by szopin)

joerg_rw 2011-11-29 01:45
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1129688)
It should be possible to "drift" from testing to stable just like one would do in Debian. To do that one would have to change the repository from testing to stable which should be done as soon as possible (given that the current testing works fine for you right now).
You forgot the subtle true differences from T to S, e.g MP. Also nota bene there's e.g camera-ui from stock in S right now, you'll not get rid of the nicocam in T and esp not get back stock cam, when switching repo. See changelog.
bottom line: no, it won't really work as it should.

/j

Tedri Mark 2011-11-29 04:40
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
I was just about to post a thread along the lines of 'CSSU -stable enough for day to day use?' and found this thread whne searching to see where to post.... looks like i'll be installing tomorrow then! :)

sulu 2011-11-29 06:57
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1130359)
You forgot the subtle true differences from T to S, e.g MP. Also nota bene there's e.g camera-ui from stock in S right now, you'll not get rid of the nicocam in T and esp not get back stock cam, when switching repo. See changelog.
bottom line: no, it won't really work as it should.

/j
I guess my post was not clear enough. Of course I'm aware that the current stable CSSU won't replace any testing packages.
But assuming that there will be a stable CSSU v2 (or v3 or v4...) some day that includes all packages that are now in testing, switching from testing to stable now should give you a system with stable CSSU when v2 is released.
By that time testing will have received lots of updates so switching to stable has to be done before these updates are made in testing.

If that doesn't work it would imply that there are packages in testing that will never reach stable. Is that the case?

merlin1991 2011-11-29 11:39
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu (Post 1130418)
I guess my post was not clear enough. Of course I'm aware that the current stable CSSU won't replace any testing packages.
But assuming that there will be a stable CSSU v2 (or v3 or v4...) some day that includes all packages that are now in testing, switching from testing to stable now should give you a system with stable CSSU when v2 is released.
By that time testing will have received lots of updates so switching to stable has to be done before these updates are made in testing.

If that doesn't work it would imply that there are packages in testing that will never reach stable. Is that the case?
No that is not the case, but as you wrote in your earlier post
Quote:
Originally Posted by sulu
If you chose that way you should know exactly what you're doing. As a rule of thumb: If you don't know what I'm talking about in ths post, don't do it!
What you suggested will work just fine, but you have to know what you're doing. That's why Joe average should reflash and install stable then to have a "clean" system state where if he needs help people can make assumptions about the packges installed from cssu.

systemcrash 2011-11-29 22:28
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by rodald (Post 1129744)
Hi everyone im just trying to install it but when i try to update it gives me the error TO UPDATE YOUR DEVICE TO THIS VERSION OF THE OPERATING SYSTEM YOU MUST USE NOKIA PC SUITE ON YOUR PC. CONNECT THE DEVICE TO YOUR PC VIA A USB CABLE AND LAUNCH THE APPLICATION.
I'm facing this problem but there is no PC suite for linux to my knowledge. What can I do? Is there any way to work-around this?

Thanks.

joerg_rw 2011-11-30 00:14
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by systemcrash (Post 1130776)
I'm facing this problem but there is no PC suite for linux to my knowledge. What can I do? Is there any way to work-around this?

Thanks.
Pretty please find the answer posted already 100 times all over the threads everywhere. Just use google.



Or go directly to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ.


/j

Mentalist Traceur 2011-11-30 07:36
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
I just wanted to point out that I love that the orientation applet for stable CSSU is mace optional and seperately downlowdable - this optionality will be included in the testing versions as well, yes, when next testing CSSU rolls out (currently it wants to uninstall the entire cssu metapackage since it's still marked as a dependency for the testing version of the cssu)?

systemcrash 2011-11-30 08:18
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by joerg_rw (Post 1130806)
Pretty please find the answer posted already 100 times all over the threads everywhere. Just use google.



Or go directly to http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/Installation_FAQ.


/j
I came to report that I had found the answer when I found you quick and nice answer. Thanks.

msa 2011-11-30 17:46
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
so whats the easy and simple way to enable AND disable portrait mode for the desktop? and only the desktop?

i remember the last time i enabled portrait mode, i ended up reflashing the device because a) it would rotate ALL the apps and b) i wasnt able to disable it at all.

basically, i want portrait mode on the desktop, but every other app should decide by itself and not be forced to rotate if it usually doesnt.

merlin1991 2011-11-30 21:57
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by msa (Post 1131221)
basically, i want portrait mode on the desktop, but every other app should decide by itself and not be forced to rotate if it usually doesnt.
as stated in http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable

Quote:
gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool true
enables what you want, if it's still not what you want run the following command to revert to the base state:
Quote:
gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/ui_can_rotate -t bool false

msa 2011-12-01 23:51
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin1991 (Post 1131305)
as stated in http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable


enables what you want, if it's still not what you want run the following command to revert to the base state:
oh, didnt see that.
i'll try it.

/edit
hell yeah, thats exactly what i was looking for. thank you very much!

merlin1991 2011-12-02 16:54
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
As mentioned in the first post:
Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin1991 (Post 1129261)
Every friday @ UTC 17:00 I will try to be around #maemo-ssu on irc.freenode.net to go over the current packages in testing with everyone who is around to voice his opinion.
evaluation of cssu-testing packages will start in a few min!

mdeacu 2011-12-04 10:30
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
hy i`ve just installed cssu stable version , wrote in x terminal this "gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/portrait_wallpaper -t bool true" and then restarted the device and now aftert is started up the desktop icons dosen't appear anymore and the device restarts again.. and so on.. please help

peter2p 2011-12-04 10:42
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by msa (Post 1131221)
basically, i want portrait mode on the desktop, but every other app should decide by itself and not be forced to rotate if it usually doesnt.
You can blacklist apps if you dont want to see them in portrait mode
Boemien made a great tread about this here
So if you enable forced rotation and add the apps you don't want to rotate, just put them in the blacklist, best of both worlds :)

merlin1991 2011-12-04 22:47
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdeacu (Post 1133008)
hy i`ve just installed cssu stable version , wrote in x terminal this "gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/hildon-desktop/portrait_wallpaper -t bool true" and then restarted the device and now aftert is started up the desktop icons dosen't appear anymore and the device restarts again.. and so on.. please help
There is a reason why it is only mentioned on the testing thread and also why it is not mentioned in http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable
The version of hildon-home in Stable does not poperly support this, the patch will be added when it matured enough (current version in testing has problems adding image sets)

So I can only tell you to reflash, that features isn't yet supported in stable.

mdeacu 2011-12-05 07:35
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin1991 (Post 1133246)
There is a reason why it is only mentioned on the testing thread and also why it is not mentioned in http://wiki.maemo.org/Community_SSU/FeaturesStable
The version of hildon-home in Stable does not poperly support this, the patch will be added when it matured enough (current version in testing has problems adding image sets)

So I can only tell you to reflash, that features isn't yet supported in stable.
10X i get it now !

ioncelmare 2011-12-05 08:41
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
try to set the value to false.
i have no ideea how to do'it with the phone in your situation.
maibe someone know.

mdeacu 2011-12-05 12:03
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
i reflashed , and now i'm having thoughts if is a good ideea to update or not.
My question is!
Why did cssu stayed so much time for a stable release , if the changes ar so small ?

jacktanner 2011-12-05 19:31
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
@mdeacu: the changes are not so so small (but apparently there's no full one list of all the changes either). http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=54 .

Armand360 2011-12-10 14:26
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
..so if i need to go back to the stock OS (PR 1.3.1) all i have to do is reflash the firmware right?

merlin1991 2011-12-10 16:47
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Armand360 (Post 1135884)
..so if i need to go back to the stock OS (PR 1.3.1) all i have to do is reflash the firmware right?
yes you just flash the combined image following the instruction on the wiki
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware#N900

Armand360 2011-12-11 08:33
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
thank you merlin1991. i thought of flashing this version of the CSSU on my friend's N900, so yeah just a safety precaution.

common 2011-12-11 12:08
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
10x for the hard work!

cssu cannot be uninstalled???So, if I want to try it and then uninstall it ..I cannot do that?

Alfred 2011-12-11 12:53
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by common (Post 1136164)
10x for the hard work!

cssu cannot be uninstalled???So, if I want to try it and then uninstall it ..I cannot do that?
Yes, you can, you just have to reflash your phone

common 2011-12-11 13:07
Re: [Announce] CSSU stable release
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 1136177)
Yes, you can, you just have to reflash your phone
ok how can I reflash my phone?


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